The World and Everything in It: January 30, 2025

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MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

Are preemptive pardons a legal safeguard or a political maneuver? Legal experts weigh in.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Also disposing of DEI policies doesn’t mean they are going away. We’ll talk about its roots in next generation Marxism.

And a policeman turned counselor faced a hostile media following a deadly encounter:

STILLMAN: I thought you and your partner were evil, racist, dirty, murdering cops, and I thought you should go to prison.

And WORLD commentator Cal Thomas on what real leadership is.

REICHARD: It’s Thursday, January 30th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Good morning!

REICHARD: Time for the news now with Kent Covington.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR:  Laken Riley Act » At the White House for the first time in his second term, President Trump signed a bill into law on Wednesday.

TRUMP: We’re going to sign this in honor of Laken Riley.

The president heard there at a signing ceremony for the Laken Riley Act.

The law states that people who are in the United States illegally and are accused of theft or violent crimes must be detained. Such a law would have saved the life of the 22-year-old Georgia nursing student for whom the bill was named. She was attacked and murdered last year by a Venezuelan national in the country illegally.

Before the signing, Laken Riley’s mother, Allyson Phillips, thanked President Trump, Congress, and:

PHILLIPS: Most importantly, I want to thank our Lord and savior Jesus Christ, because without his sacrifices, Laken’s story would have ended on that horrific day that she was taken from us. But because of him we can continue living knowing that we will see Laken again.

Criminal immigrants to be sent to Guantanamo » President Trump, minutes earlier, spoke to reporters about a range of issues, including plans to send hardened criminal illegal immigrants to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

The president said he’s signed an executive order instructing the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security to prepare a 30,000 bed detention facility at GITMO:

TRUMP:  To detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people. Some of them are so bad we don't even trust the countries to hold them because we don't want them coming back. So we're going to send them out to Guantanamo.

The US military base there houses a facility known as the Migrant Operations Center on Guantanamo. It has long been used to detain migrants interdicted at sea.

The center is separate from the well-known GITMO detention facility used for suspected terrorists.

Trump rescinds federal grant order » President Trump on Wednesday also sought to clear up confusion surrounding an earlier executive order to temporarily freeze federal funding for most federal grants and loans.

A federal judge put that order on hold.

Trump explained he had called for a short-term pause:

 TRUMP: Only for us to quickly look at the scams, dishonesty, waste and abuse that's taken place in our government for too long.

He said it in no way affected things like “Social Security, Medicare, or other entitlements that Americans depend on.”

The White House, though, later announced that the president had rescinded that order.

RFK Jr. » Meantime, at the Capitol:

AUDIO: This hearing will come to order. I thank my colleagues and Mr. Kennedy for being here today.

Members of a Senate panel grilled Robert F. Kennedy Jr, the president’s pick to head the Department of Health and Human Services.

Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee were not shy in voicing their skepticism about his qualifications. Ranking Member Sen. Ron Wyden:

WYDEN:  Mr. Kennedy has embraced conspiracy theories, quacks, charlatans, especially when it comes to the safety and efficacy of vaccines.

Kennedy assured the panel that he believes vaccines play a critical role in healthcare.

He also said if he’s confirmed, he wants to make America healthy again.

KENNEDY:  We will make sure our tax dollars support healthy foods. We will scrutinize the chemical additives in our food supply. We will remove financial conflicts of interest from our agencies.

Kennedy is seeking to lead the agency that oversees vaccine recommendations as well as food inspections and health insurance for millions.

Zeldin confirmed » The Senate on Wednesday also confirmed former GOP Congressman Lee Zeldin as Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency.

AUDIO:  The yeas are 56. The nays are 42. The nomination is confirmed.

Zeldin has vowed to protect access to clean air and water, while also scaling back regulations, restoring U.S. energy dominance, and revitalizing the US auto industry.

Bob Menendez sentenced » A federal judge has sentenced former U.S. Sen. from New Jersey Bob Menendez to 11 years in prison after his conviction last year on corruption charges.

The longtime Democratic lawmaker told reporters outside the Manhattan courthouse:

MENENDEZ:  Regardless of, uh, the judge's comments today, I am innocent and I look forward to filing appeals on a whole host of issues.

A jury found the 71-year-old Menendez guilty of accepting bribes of gold and cash and acting as an agent of Egypt.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: a President’s power to pardon is under scrutiny. Plus, a former police officer discovers his life’s purpose after tragedy.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Thursday the 30th of January.

This is WORLD Radio and we’re so glad to have you along with us today. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

First up on The World and Everything in It, preemptive presidential pardons.

Last week, both the former and current presidents issued scores of pardons. President Donald Trump focused on January 6 defendants and pro-lifers. And in his final hours in office, President Joe Biden granted prospective pardons— to people he thought the new administration might prosecute in the future.

BROWN: Preemptive pardons are relatively rare in US history.

How might pardons for actions not yet prosecuted change the pardon power of the president? WORLD’s Mary Muncy spoke to a handful of experts who have concerns about that.

MARY MUNCY: After the 2020 election, CNN reported that outgoing President Donald Trump was considering preemptive pardons for his family members, and close advisors. In an interview with CNN, Jake Tapper asked the newly elected president about it.

TAPPER: Does this concern you?

BIDEN: Well, it concerns me in terms of what kind of precedent it sets and how the rest of the world looks at us as a nation of laws and-and justice.

But during the 2024 campaign, allegations of Biden family corruption prompted candidate Donald Trump to threaten potential prosecution.

DONALD TRUMP: When this election is over, based on what they’ve done, I would have every right to go after them.

Though, in that same interview with FOX, Trump said it would be terrible to prosecute a former president of the United States.

It seems that wasn’t assuring enough for President Biden… and news broke during Trump’s inaugural address last week, that Biden issued sweeping pardons.

NBC: President Biden pardoning his family members.

TODAY: Among those pardons, Dr. Anthony Fouci, Gen Mark Milley.

WHAS11: He also pardoned all members of the January 6 committee.

It’s not the first time a president has issued preemptive pardons… or that a president has pardoned members of his family… but it’s not common.

ILYA SHAPIRO: It's always not looked good.

Ilya Shapiro is the director of constitutional studies at the Manhattan Institute.

SHAPIRO: I mean, those presidents have always been criticized for doing that and seen as rightly so, as something that smells.

President Biden issued more than 8,000 pardons during his presidency. Most of them were to cover actual crimes or sentences. Some of them—like the one for his son Hunter—also covered potential crimes committed during a particular time.

Something he’s well within his right to do…though it may not be the best thing to do.

SHAPIRO: It is one of the biggest powers that the President has under our Constitution.

There’s no judicial review, a person doesn’t actually have to be convicted, and the president can pardon anyone—even someone convicted of treason.

Really, the only limit is that it only applies to the past.

SHAPIRO: He's not saying you have a Get Out of Jail Free card for anything that you do for the next five years.

Several of the people Biden pardoned have not been convicted of crimes. In his pardons, Biden stipulated that it didn’t mean they had committed them either.

It gets cloudy in President Biden’s preemptive pardons for Dr. Anthony Fauci, the January 6th committee, and Biden’s family. The legal motivation isn’t for unfair convictions, known or potential crimes, just the threat of political persecution.

So, where did the power to pardon come from and why is it so broad?

RICHARD LEMPERT: The pardon power goes back to medieval England.

Richard Lempert is an emeritus professor of law and sociology at the University of Michigan.

LEMPERT: At that time, all felonies were capital offenses, so you might get hung for, you know, stealing a cow.

And the only way to avoid the death penalty was a pardon from the king.

During the writing of the Constitution, there was a lot of back and forth over whether there should be limits on the pardon power—things like requiring conviction, not allowing the president to pardon in cases of treason, or building in some sort of congressional or judicial review.

But in the end, they decided the threat of impeachment would be enough to check the president’s power.

And over the past 250 years or so, the Supreme Court has interpreted the power even more broadly.

DAN KOBIL: The U.S. Supreme Court decided to make the president more king-like.

Dan Kobil is a professor of Constitutional law at Capital University Law School in Columbus Ohio.

One of the big questions the Supreme Court has dealt with is whether someone can reject a pardon… and if they accept it, is that an admission of guilt? The question came to a head when President Gerald Ford pardoned President Richard Nixon.

At the time, the Supreme Court had said accepting a presidential pardon is a tacit admission of guilt.

Since then, the court has ruled that someone who’s pardoned can’t reject it… it happens to you, just like a conviction… so since you can’t reject it, accepting it doesn’t mean anything about your guilt or innocence.

KOBIL: The problem, I think, with the Biden preemptive pardons is that it indicates a lack of faith in our justice system.

Kobil says preemptive pardons in the past have been rare. But he believes that’s likely changing.

KOBIL: I suspect what's going to happen in the future is that we are going to see other presidents pardoning members of their administration, political allies, things like that, preemptively.

And that creates three interesting wrinkles. The first one is that with sweeping pardons like the ones Biden or Ford granted, the pardon may cover more than what the president knows.

The second wrinkle…a president could potentially ask someone to commit a crime on his behalf… and promise a pardon.

Back to Shapiro.

SHAPIRO: In effect, future congressional staffers or presidential aides can think in the back of their mind that if they commit wrongdoing, if they commit federal crimes, they will be pardoned.

The last wrinkle is that… once someone gets a pardon, Shapiro doesn’t think they can plead the fifth because now they’re immune to federal charges. Which could end up leading to investigations an outgoing administration hoped to avoid in the first place.

SHAPIRO: So if there is an investigation about what happened, either under COVID, with respect to Fauci or with respect to the January 6 investigation and prosecutions with those officials, they can't decline to testify because they might self-incriminate.

On the other hand, there might be reasons why preemptive pardons make sense…the mental and financial burden of defending yourself… and despite his own trust in our legal system, it’s not perfect, and mistrials do happen.

In the English system, the people removed the pardon power from the king in the 17th century because of corruption.

In our system, the power could potentially be limited with a Constitutional Amendment … but that’s a long and politically hairy process.

For now, Shapiro worries that a president pardoning his political allies with a slow path to impeachment puts us at the top of a slippery slope.

SHAPIRO: That sets a precedent. That's, you know, a recipe for lawmaking that ultimately is the most dangerous thing from all of this.

Reporting for WORLD I’m Mary Muncy.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Up next: Marxist ideology in the American government.

On Tuesday, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt outlined President Trump’s executive actions in week one.

LEAVITT: President Trump also signed sweeping executive orders to end the weaponization of government and restore common sense to the federal bureaucracy. He directed all federal agencies to terminate illegal diversity, equity, and inclusion programs to help return America to a merit-based society.

Those orders included ending D-E-I programs in the military as well as the federal government.

REICHARD: Joining us to talk more about the ideology behind these programs and how it affects American life is Mike Gonzalez. He was a journalist for 20 years. Now he’s senior fellow with the Heritage Foundation, and co-author with Katharine Gorka of a new book titled NextGen Marxism: What It Is and How to Combat It.

So Mike, let's just start with this question. What do you mean by next gen Marxism?

MIKE GONZALEZ: I mean the evolution of Marxism from mainly an economic based doctrine to one that emphasizes cultural issues. That tries to take over cultural institutions, change the way people think, and then introduce its doctrine that way. DEI is exactly that. DEI was a way. One of the things DEI did, it did many things, was to try to brainwash Americans, whether in young Americans, in their schools or in their colleges and universities, or also in their offices and factory floors, brainwash them, get rid of the old hegemony, the old way of thinking, and introduce a new hegemony, a new way of thinking.

REICHARD: You know, a very basic question is, why is analyzing the world through that oppressed versus oppressor lens a bad thing?

GONZALEZ: It's wrong, because on many levels, the world does not work that way. You know, there are people who are oppressors, who then become oppressed, and vice versa. You change roles. You're not a permanent oppressor. It also gets rid of forgiveness and forgetting. It's in direct opposition to what we heard in Galatians, “You're no longer a Greek, nor Jew Gentile, but if you believe in the word, you are children of Abraham. It's to see the world as just an epic struggle between the oppressor and the oppressed. Is a violation of Christ's message and of Christ's commands, I believe.

REICHARD: Interesting. President Trump signed executive orders that go further back than the past four or five years alone. So he's not just undoing Biden administration actions. How so?

GONZALEZ: He also rescinded Executive Order Number 11246, which was signed by Lyndon Johnson in September of 1965. And the reason why that is important is because it was the first government action that required federal contractors to in effect, agree to have racial quotas. It demanded the federal contractors give the government their racial makeup. In time—since ‘65—this executive order has been used as the order that requires quotas. And obviously, if you're going to have meritocracy, you cannot have quotas. And by the way, the Supreme Court has said that quotas are illegal with the decision that in many ways allowed affirmative action in universities. So you know going back to that and rescinding, revoking 11246 was a key step that without getting rid of that EO by Johnson any reforms would never work.

REICHARD: Another executive order Trump signed instructs the federal government to investigate DEI at institutions of higher education that have substantial endowments over a billion dollars. How is that going to be very important do you think?

GONZALEZ: If Trump succeeds, then the universities are going to be the final place that really pushes DEI. And telling the universities, no, you receive a lot of money, you receive a lot of money, and you're going to have to abide by the law is going to be a key thing. I mean, let's not forget that this takeover of the culture begins with the universities.

REICHARD: What other evidence can you cite of failed Marxist experiments. In our lifetimes?

GONZALEZ: All Marxist experiments have ended up in tears. I mean, even God, in his infinite wisdom, has actually given us laboratory experiments of the same people with the same culture and the same DNA. One side communist, the other side free and capitalist. One completely and utterly fails, and the other one completely and utterly succeeds. I'm talking about the two Koreas and the two Germanys. So absolutely communism, it's not has it ever failed? Has it ever succeeded? And no, it hasn't.

REICHARD: What would you say are the objectives of next gen Marxists? And is it different from the Soviet era Marxism?

GONZALEZ: That was an economic Marxism that believed that man's class depended on his relations to the means of production. That economics had added primacy, that it was deterministic. In fact, cultural Marxism was devised because that kind of Marxism didn't work in the West. All the communist revolutions failed in Western Europe, and they failed any attempt to communize the United States failed. So communist intellectuals came up with cultural Marxism as a way to communize the West, which has much stronger civil institutions, civic society.

REICHARD: Just to clarify, are we using Marxism and communism as meaning the same thing?

GONZALEZ: Yeah, so Marx didn't really distinguish between communism and socialism by the way. In the minds of a lot of people, communism means the imposition of socialism through terror. When I say Marxism and communism, I mean, pretty similar things. The communism with the Soviet Union differs from the Cultural Marxism that is being preached here. But they both have this base, as their key, this belief that all of life, all of history, can be boiled down to this epic struggle between between one group and another group: the oppressed and the oppressor. That is in the first page of the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx, and that is believed by today's cultural Marxists.

REICHARD: So this ideology isn’t going away.

GONZALEZ: I think President Trump has given us the tools to fight this with these executive orders. It's up to us now, in trying to figure out who's trying to get away with this, they're going to try to relabel DEI. Call this other things. This is happening already. I've seen in the last 48 hours many, many stories about how universities and businesses and even parts of the federal government are trying to relabel DEI, or relabel the people who do DEI under other titles, and we're going to have to fight that. But it's the end of this long nightmare that we have had for the last five years that is now within sight. It's up to us now to take the fight.

REICHARD: We've been talking to Mike Gonzalez, co author of the new book Next Gen Marxism, What It Is and How to Combat It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Government efficiency. People wish for it.

Folks in a small village in North Wales do too and they’ve had enough of their bumpy roads.

So they turned their frustration into creativity by filling the air with sarcasm.

SOUND: Two kilometers of award-winning potholes. Once again, welcome to Jurassic—I mean, welcome to Pothole Land.

Another sign adds to that: potholes with very little actual road to spoil your fun.

A YouTuber going by the name “Nomad Season” documented the satirical attraction—claiming the biggest potholes in all of Wales.

Locals say it’s not that enough money isn’t thrown at the problem, either: 

AUDIO: I think it's government misspending. I think they've been spending money in the wrong places.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: We hear ya!

REICHARD: Well, in this instance, the mock attraction worked! Road crews have at least started repairs.

BROWN: Who knew the best way to see tax dollars at work… was to first trip over them?

REICHARD: It’s The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Thursday, January 30th.

Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: showing the light of Christ during the darkest of times.

Police work means dealing with human behavior at its worst. Law enforcement officers see and experience terrible things.

WORLD’s Lindsay Mast has the story of a former police officer who grappled with how to do the work after the worst of outcomes.

LINDSAY MAST: January 17, 2018 was a typical winter day in Racine, Wisconsin. Investigator Chad Stillman put on his police badge and gear. He didn’t know it then, but it would be the last time he did.

CHAD STILLMAN: We're getting the car to go out. End up getting a call from a confidential informant who says, hey, you know, such and such is out here. He's got a gun on him, and he's and he's selling, selling dope.

The man was a convicted felon out on probation and parole. The tip led to a traffic stop for a missing front license plate. What happened next changed Stillman’s life.

Police audio from WITI-Fox 6 Milwaukee:

AUDIO: Black pants, red hoodie, Southbound Park, he’s going through the yard…

The suspect got out and started running. Stillman and his partner chased him on foot. In the yard of a nearby house, the man pulled out a gun.

STILLMAN: The next thing I know, I'm just staring down the barrel of a nine millimeter handgun from probably, I'd say, seven to 10 feet away.

Stillman and his partner yelled repeatedly to drop the gun, show his hands. But he didn’t.

AUDIO: Shots fired! One down! We’re ok!...we need EMS… (gunshots)

The officers fired. The suspect died on the way to the hospital. His family was devastated. Angry.

There were protests. Local news picked up the story.

FAMILY: There’s no reason for those cops to have shot him that many times, saying he was a threat.

Stillman and his partner became the target of public backlash … threats of extreme violence against Stillman’s family, his little girls.

STILLMAN: I'm trying to, like sleep at night, wondering if my kids are sleeping close enough to the floor that all right, if there's a drive by will the bullets, you know, will the stone on the front of the house stop the rounds? Are my kids safe? Like, what!

A report issued two months later cleared Stillman and his partner of any wrongdoing.

But the shooting changed him. Being in the news changed him. A nurse at a hospital he’d see sometimes on cases, reached out and told him she had thought terrible things about him, until she read the report.

STILLMAN: She's like, I will never believe the media again. I thought you and your partner were evil, racist, dirty, murdering cops, and I thought you should go to prison. And that's how I felt for months.”

The investigation may have cleared Stillman, but a diagnosis of post-traumatic stress disorder kept him from returning to his job. It was a low point.

He had hit bottom once before, after eight years on the force as a non-Christian. He says he hadn’t had the right perspective on life–his marriage, his family, or his job. But that changed when he was 30 and accepted Christ.

He became a better husband and father. Even his approach to police work changed.

STILLMAN: You will be amazed when, how far you can get relationally, even in investigations, by just treating people like with respect, wanting to know their story, genuinely wanting to make them feel loved.

He saw the people he took into custody differently, even prayed with them in interview rooms–eyes open, in case they tried to punch him. People he was investigating hadn’t always experienced much compassion.

STILLMAN: If you could make them feel heard for the first time in their lives, like they would tell you their whole life story, sob, confess to the crime, and then hug you on their way to jail when they know they're never gonna get out again. Because they never had anyone sit down, look them in the eyes and genuinely say, like, “bro, tell me, tell me how we got here.”

Stillman says in the 10 years since the shooting of Michael Brown and the scrutiny of law enforcement in Ferguson, Missouri, police officers have had a more difficult time being proactive.

STILLMAN: We need cops that are guardians and warriors like we have to have that as a society to function. But there's been so much anti-cop rhetoric that officers are terrified to put on the warrior hat when they're called to do it.

He had to wrestle with that first hand–having used lethal force, then walking through that period of intense, public criticism.

Stillman has since spent time as a police chaplain. Sometimes, he misses the impact he had on his community before.

STILLMAN: When someone calls the police, it's usually the worst day of their life for the most part, like not a good day. So being able to show up and be that, be that hope, be that light, be that encouragement is I miss… I do miss that.

But he’s been to Texas to comfort a SWAT team member who was the first in the room after the Santa Fe High School shooting. And he hugged a man who couldn’t do much but lay flowers on the memorial at Abundant Life Christian School in Madison.

STILLMAN: And you pray for him and his family, and they leave, you know, better than when they showed up.

It’s not the same work. But it’s good work.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Lindsay Mast.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Thursday, January 30th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. WORLD commentator Cal Thomas says the new administration shows that promises made can be promises kept.

CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: One of the things that frustrates so many people about Washington is its dysfunction. We are paying more and getting less. “Another day older and deeper in debt” as an old song goes. The cost, bureaucracy and government’s failure to produce many results despite the promises of politicians feeds the cynicism many feel about the capital.

That may be about to change as the Trump administration follows through on its pledge to deport undocumented immigrants, some of whom have been convicted or charged with the most heinous crimes.

Democrats and the left have been mostly silent about these deportations. One exception is singer Selena Gomez, who posted a video of herself crying and expressing empathy for “the children” …even though adult criminals are the targets for deportation. She quickly took down the video after receiving a torrent of criticism.

Border Czar Tom Homan wondered why Gomez is only now speaking out: “Where are her tears for the hundreds of thousands of Americans who have died from fentanyl coming across the southern border?” Good question.

The decline in those migrant numbers has been dramatic and can only be credited to President Trump’s swift fulfillment of his campaign promise. Fox News—the only media outlet to have consistently covered the border problem to the shame of others—reports fewer than 600 people crossed illegally into the U.S. from Mexico last Sunday. The decline in numbers will make the job of the Border Patrol much easier.

These lower numbers contrast significantly from the final days of the Biden administration when more that 1,200 were coming in per day. Biden officials were claiming the border was “secure,” even when live video clearly showed it was not.

On Tuesday, newly confirmed Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem joined ICE agents on raids in New York. She said “Dirtbags like this will continue to be removed from our streets.” She’s not alone. New York City Mayor Eric Adams once pledged to protect migrants…offering them free hotel rooms and other benefits as part of his “sanctuary city” policy. But now he seems to be stepping back from his former position. He recently met with President Trump—leading to speculation that Adams may be seeking a pardon from his recent criminal indictments in exchange for softening his opposition against deportation. It’ll be interesting to see how that plays out as Adams is up for re-election in November and many New York Democrats have been critical of what they see as his cozying up to Trump.

It’s not only the approach to border security that has changed in the last week. The new secretary of defense, Pete Hegseth, is dismantling DEI at the Pentagon and throughout the military ranks. On Monday, Trump signed more executive orders that included banning transgender Americans from the military and restoring troops who were discharged for refusing to take Covid-19 vaccinations, back pay included. Another executive order is intended to establish the development of an American version of Israel’s Iron Dome missile defense system. Trump gave credit to Ronald Reagan for the concept, but said the technology wasn’t sufficient in the 1980s to develop it. He said that technology now exists.

It’s not only the speed with which Trump is addressing these issues – and polls indicate a majority approve – it’s the feeling that something positive is finally being accomplished in Washington, which for too long has seemed stagnant and unable (or unwilling) to change things that don’t work in favor of what does.

Even those who have been and remain critical of Donald Trump can’t ignore success, which Trump has said would be his best “revenge” against those who have tried to defeat him through impeachments, indictments, a trial and two apparent assassination attempts.

I’m Cal Thomas.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Tomorrow: John Stonestreet is back for Culture Friday. Plus, WORLD music reviewer Arsenio Orteza introduces us to some of the recordings we may have missed last year. And, saying goodbye to one of our own. That and more tomorrow.

I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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The Bible records Jesus saying to people in his hometown of Nazareth: “‘A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household.’ And he could do no mighty work there, except that he laid his hands on a few sick people and healed them. And he marveled because of their unbelief. And he went about among the villages teaching.” —Mark 6:4-6

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