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On Culture Friday, John Stonestreet considers controversial New York Times writer Nikole Hannah-Jones sending her daughter to a struggling public school for the “collective good”—and what gets lost when the common good is detached from the people who make it up. He also takes up Meryl Streep voicing Aslan in Netflix’s adaptation of C.S. Lewis’s The Magician’s Nephew, and kids turning smartwatches into social media. Collin Garbarino reviews Heart of the Beast, about a wounded veteran and his combat dog fighting through the wilderness. Plus: listeners get the last word on September’s programs.


Brad Pitt in a scene from Heart of the Beast Associated Press / Scott Garfield / Paramount Pictures

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MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning!

Today on Culture Friday: A high-profile journalist puts the “collective good” ahead of a better school for her own child.

NICK EICHER, HOST: We’ll talk with John Stonestreet about that. Also: Actress Meryl Streep as Aslan, and kids outsmarting the smartwatches meant to keep them off social media.

Also today: a film about two wounded companions with a long, punishing journey between them and safety.

AUDIO: Fifty-eight miles. No one’s coming for us. We’re just going to have to do this the hard way.

And the last word … is yours. Listener Feedback for September.

BROWN: It’s Friday, September 25th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

BROWN: Up next, Mark Mellinger with today’s news.


MARK MELLINGER, NEWS ANCHOR: Trump hosts Xi for state visit » Two of the world’s most powerful leaders spent Thursday tackling big topics at the White House. President Trump kicked things off by giving Chinese leader Xi Jinping a tour of the White House grounds, showing off the new Marine One helipad on the South Lawn.

TRUMP: He’s an expert on stone, aside from many other things. And he loves good granite.

Once they moved inside to the Oval Office, the two leaders talked about global conflicts, trade, and artificial intelligence. China is trying to catch up to the U.S. on AI. Xi, through a translator, called for more cooperation between the two countries on that topic… while still allowing for competition.

XI: It should be a race of catching up with one another, not a wrestle in which one either wins or loses.

The talks come amid White House concerns Chinese firms are maliciously copying AI technology developed by U.S. companies, something China denies.

President Trump says the two leaders made tremendous strides on key issues, but didn’t give details. Later Thursday night, the president and first lady hosted Xi and his wife at a state dinner also attended by several U.S. tech titans.

Banned journalists granted access, return to White House » Meantime, three news organizations banned from the White House last week… were back on the grounds Thursday.

A judge issued a temporary order restoring access for CNN, Politico, and MS NOW. The judge says those outlets’ legal filings claiming their press passes were revoked without due process… were likely to succeed.

Ted Boutrous is the attorney representing the news organizations.

BOUTROUS: This is all about trying to control independent journalism, and the viewpoint -editorial viewpoint- of journalists.

Trump initially cited what he considers ‘negative coverage’ as his reason for kicking those media outlets out, before later claiming their coverage could endanger national security. The judge didn’t buy the national security argument, and has now given each side two weeks to file arguments over whether he should consider a longer-lasting order.

As a show of solidarity with the three outlets involved in this dispute, the major TV networks did not air live coverage of Xi Jinping’s state visit to the White House.

Netanyahu defends IDF actions at UN » “Moral cowards.” That’s how Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu described delegations from several countries… who left the room before he started speaking to the U.N. General Assembly Thursday.

NETANYAHU: Many of their leaders even thank us privately for taking out Iran’s nukes. It’s hard to imagine more mind-blowing hypocrisy, but that’s exactly what it is.

Netanyahu also defended Israel’s military campaigns against Hamas and its terror allies in response to the October 7th, 2023 attacks on Israel.

And he defended the joint U.S.-Israeli operations this year to destroy Iran’s nuclear capacity.

NETANYAHU: It was one of the easiest decisions I’ve ever had to make as prime minister, because if we hadn’t done it, we’d all be dead.

Netanyahu also accused the leaders of several countries who’ve spoken out against Israel’s actions… of giving in to anti-Semites.

Pezeshkian claims Iran has no nuclear weapons ambition » Iran’s president claims his country does not want a nuclear weapon.

During media interviews Thursday… President Mahmoud Pezeshkian claimed Iran’s top leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, has declared several times that pursuing a nuclear weapon would be unholy. Iran’s perceived nuclear ambitions are a key rationale the U.S. has given for going to war with the Middle Eastern nation.

Pezeshkian, in the U.S. to speak before the U.N., also acknowledged the war has weakened Iran’s economy. But in an interview on Fox NewsChannel’s Special Report, speaking through a translator, he expressed resolve.

PEZESHKIAN: We never started a war, but if they wish to keep fighting with us, we will respond strongly.

Pezeshkian also told reporters Iran would never try to kill Donald Trump, despite the president accusing Iranian leaders of plotting to do just that.

Heidi Overton Hearing » On Capitol Hill Thursday, Senators grilled President Trump’s pick for Food and Drug Commissioner in a nomination hearing.

And, as WORLD’s Harrison Watters explains from Washington, the tough questions came from members of both parties.

WATTERS: GOP Chairman Bill Cassidy of Louisiana asked Dr. Heidi Overton tough questions about childhood shots.

CASSIDY: Are there any vaccines on the U.S. market right now which are unsafe?
OVERTON: Senator, every vaccine on the U.S. market right now are safe and effective according to the FDA.

WATTERS: Overton previously stood behind President Trump in the Oval Office when he called the combined measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine potentially lethal. That raised concerns for Senator Cassidy.

On chemical abortion, Democrats asked Overton about past statements saying the Biden administration was wrong to remove safety guidelines for the abortion drug mifepristone. She played it safe in response.

OVERTON: According to FDA standards, the drug is safe and effective as labeled today, with the appropriate risk evaluation mitigation strategy.

WATTERS: Missouri Senator Josh Hawley says that doesn’t line up with what the FDA says now.

HAWLEY: The FDA is not defending the merits of the Biden administration's REMS in court. The FDA's position is they admit in court that the REMS were not appropriately put into place.

WATTERS: Dr. Overton said she’ll focus on finishing a safety review of the drug.

Overton needs full Republican support in committee to then be confirmed by the Senate.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Harrison Watters…in Washington.

Nor’easter to batter East Coast » More than 40 million people in the Eastern U.S. could be affected by a rare September Nor’easter this weekend.

The storm’s already unleashed fierce winds and massive waves upon parts of North Carolina and Virginia. But forecasters say the biggest impact will probably hit late tonight or early Saturday.

And while the exact path it’ll take isn’t clear… Atlantic City, New Jersey Fire Chief Scott Evans says his crews have been bracing for flooding.

EVANS: We spent the last couple of days getting all our stuff, all our equipment off the beaches or put it into the high ground so it's safe, especially in uptown. We cleared off everything.

The storm could dump up to a month’s worth of rain in parts of Rhode Island and Massachusetts, including Boston.

I’m Mark Mellinger.

Coming up: Collin Garbarino reviews a new Brad Pitt survival adventure. Plus, Listener Feedback for September.

This is The World and Everything in It.

I'm Mark Mellinger.

Coming up: Collin Garbarino reviews a new Brad Pitt survival adventure. Plus, Listener Feedback for September.

This is The World and Everything in It.


NICK EICHER, HOST: It’s Friday the 25th of September.

Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Nick Eicher.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

It’s Culture Friday, and joining us now is John Stonestreet, president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. Good morning, John.

JOHN STONESTREET: Good morning.

BROWN: Well, the controversial New York Times writer Nikole Hannah-Jones has written about a decision she made for her daughter. She deliberately chose a struggling, mostly low-income, predominantly black public school because she believed her family had an obligation to the collective good. Her daughter is now 16 and says she feels betrayed by that decision. Hannah-Jones’s piece admits the experience exposes serious gaps in her daughter’s education.

The piece was incredibly revealing, but here you have essentially an admission that a parent put an abstract notion about the greater good above the specific person God entrusted to that parent. Is there a bigger takeaway for us about professional priorities and personal responsibilities?

STONESTREET: I think there is, and I think that your point here is exactly right. That this is the kind of great conversation between, I think, a progressive mindset that prioritizes a depersonalized vague notion of the common good over and above the things that are actually priceless, and that is every single person that is made in the image and likeness of God.

It’s also a conversation about what Abraham Kuyper terms sphere sovereignty: who belongs to who? Do kids belong to the state? Do kids belong to others whose professional jobs is to provide education, or is it first and foremost the parents’ job, and if the parents are serving or borrowing from a particular other sphere in order to provide the educational opportunities, it’s still their call. They’re not doing it in order to prop up this other sphere.

And I also think it points back to something else, which is maybe the most buried story over the last four or five decades. It’s just how poorly some of these schools are actually performing. What’s actually going on? This article shocked some people because even if you had some vague notion of schools in certain parts of the country aren’t doing well as others, you didn’t really have a whole lot of detail, and she provided some of that detail—not just about the behavior issues, which a lot of people have pointed to, but also just about the incompetence of the teachers that are there.

And you hate to say that because you’re never supposed to say anything bad about teachers, ever. But the fact of the matter is, we’ve got a system that is training incompetence into our public schools. We have wonderful teachers, but you know what? We have a Breakpoint commentary coming out either this week or next: What Are They Teaching Teachers These Days? Because of an American Enterprise Institute survey of what actually people are learning if they get a master’s in education. The sneak preview is they’re learning less about real stuff, and they’re learning more about critical theory. That’s just the way that it is.

So you’re building up so many ideas which remove personal responsibility from students and families, and you feed into this vague notion of the common or collective good. And the reason there is a collective good is because the individuals that are part of the collective good are each in and of themselves valuable and unique and distinct, and we have a responsibility to them individually within certain context. If you don’t start with that assumption and you try to jump above that just to some vague notion of the common good, you’re not going to have the categories necessary in order to move ahead.

But let me just say this too, because she has gotten a lot of attention for this piece. It took a little bit of courage to write this piece, to admit that you have failed your child, or that your child thinks you have failed them. Of course, that’s a pretty common experience of parents of teenagers, where your teenager says you’ve done everything wrong, but it’s another thing to write about it in the New York Times.

That’s been an interesting thing over the last four or five years, is that the status quo in education is being questioned, and we need as much of this to feed that as possible, so that alternatives can flourish, so that we have some sort of elbow room to create and innovate new alternatives. So it’ll be interesting to see where this goes.

BROWN: And to your point, John, I felt for Jones as I was reading her talk about that failure, and as a parent, as a mom, felt for her. In that same piece, Hannah-Jones draws a connection to black parents who sent their children into newly desegregated schools during the Jim Crow era, and I want to know: Do you think that analogy holds up?

And I’m gonna ask you a question and then give you my answer. I don’t think so. I don’t think it does. It just feels like a justification. But what do you think?

STONESTREET: Well, certainly. Chuck Colson used to say there’s no limit to the human capacity for self-rationalization, and there’s certainly a good bit of that. But it fails in one obvious way, and that is when black families in the Jim Crow South had an opportunity to send their kids to better schools, even if it meant they were going to endure a great level of resistance. They did, so their, I think, concern was for their own kids as opposed to the greater good, in order to send them into a situation where they thought they were going to learn more. They were going to get a better education. Certainly, had better facilities and better opportunities than the segregated schools did.

This is the exact opposite. This is a parent choosing to send for the greater good, not for the good of the student, into a poorer school, and one obviously poor that everyone knew was poorer and also, by the way, in many cases, depending on which context we’re talking about, put them in a greater level of danger. My point is I think this is exactly the opposite of the analogy that she’s trying to draw.

EICHER: Well, John, I’m going to change gears completely here because I don’t know whether you’ve heard, but it is official: Meryl Streep, the actress, will be voicing Aslan in the new big-screen adaptation of C.S. Lewis’s The Magician’s Nephew. Now, when the rumors started circulating last year, Katie McCoy happened to be sitting in your chair when we talked about it, and I have not forgotten the reaction she had, concluding, “Just leave Aslan alone.”

Well, Aslan has not been left alone. Of course, we know that Lewis clearly presents Aslan as a Christ figure, and again, now that it’s official, how much does this matter, that a woman will voice him? Just how wrong is this, do you think?

STONESTREET: Well, Aslan is the Jesus character in the series. There’s no question about it, and C.S. Lewis did not hide that fact, and it becomes very, very obvious in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, and also the interactions with the children and the other characters of Narnia throughout the rest of the series, but it isn’t Jesus, right? Let’s just be real clear. You blaspheme Jesus. You don’t blaspheme Aslan.

Now you can desperately fail the good of the original work, and that’s what I think a lot of people fear, including myself, with this really odd choice. If we’re going to throw up pop culture references, there’s a scene in Talladega Nights when Will Ferrell’s character wants to pray to baby Jesus, and the father-in-law is like, “He had a beard,” and I want to say to Greta Gerwig and Meryl Streep, “He had a mane.” This is basic animal husbandry or whatever. It’s an amazing shift.

As somebody put on Twitter, that means we’re either going to get a female Aslan in which Aslan does not have a mane, or we’re going to get a male lion with a female voice. And as the tweet said, “I don’t know what’s worse.” I don’t know what’s worse either, because it is so absolutely confused top to bottom, and we know that an impulse to wokeify classic literature, classic cinema, even just really good stories ends up failing because one of the things that makes classics classic is how even if you’re talking about a fantasy world like Narnia, it reflects more of our world, not less.

And when you try to superimpose non-realistic categories onto reality, which is what critical theory is all about, it just falls apart, and this points back to something I heard years ago from a professor at Moody Bible Institute, Rosalie de Rosset. How’s that for a name? She was an English literature professor there, and she once offered at a lecture that I attended a framing, and I’ve always thought this is maybe the most helpful framing when it comes to movies, pop culture, but also classic literature.

She said the difference between a good book and a bad book is that a good book takes you deeper into reality, even if it does so by means of a fantasy world or a make-believe world. A bad book distracts you. That’s all it does. It distracts you either by titillating your senses or by trying to take your imagination away from realistic categories.

And I have always thought that would apply to movies. That would apply to films. My guess is we’re going to see that applies to this new adaptation, which now many of us are just absolutely dreading.

EICHER: Rosalie de Rosset. Rosalie de Rosset. I love saying that name.

STONESTREET: (Laughs) Yeah, it’s real.

EICHER: Sounds so literary.

STONESTREET: I know her. She’s awesome.

EICHER: Well, John, as you probably know, China’s President Xi Jinping is on his way out of the country, wrapping up his state visit today. There was a story out of China, though, that caught my eye. Parents there are buying smartwatches for their kids, partly because they don’t want to give them smartphones.

Now the watches allow the parents to stay in touch and keep track of where the kids are without handing them a full-blown device, except apparently the kids have found a way to turn the watches into social media. They want the same brands that their friends have. They connect with one another by way of their smartwatch, and now supposedly this safer alternative has its own digital status game.

So, have the kids outsmarted the smartwatches? Parents finding a workaround to smartphones, and the kids finding a workaround to the workaround. So, are parents basically back to square one with the smartwatch as safer substitute strategy?

STONESTREET: Well, I think it’s going to be too little, too late, because the impulse of what it means to parent has already dramatically shifted. It’s become an activity of surveillance. And of course, if we’re talking about China, if we think that China is not going to somehow surveil its own citizens using these smartwatches, you’re not getting around that reality if you’re in China, or, by the way, for that matter, if you’re in the UK, these devices are going to be used.

But I think here we’re talking about something different. It was interesting that you brought up this story today, because it was a flashing observation. I was somewhere in public and seeing a bunch of kids looking at their watches, and I thought, man, a lot of kids have a smartwatch these days. And it was a very interesting flashing thought in light of maybe this is a new trend. And of course, if it’s a new trend over there, it’s very possible a new trend here.

If your point, by the way, is surveillance, just get some AirTags and throw them on your kid’s shoes or something. You don’t have to give them another screen and more false connectivity, something else that diverts their attention away from the real world around them, away from actual other eyeballs, and puts their attention on, again, their own belly button. Only now it’s their wrist through their belly button as opposed through a screen. It’s another screen. It’s another glowing rectangle, so to speak. So I’m not sure that this is much of an improvement.

EICHER: All right, John Stonestreet is president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint Podcast. Thanks, John.

STONESTREET: Thank you both.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Friday, September 25th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: Brad Pitt and a combat dog, stranded in the wilderness.

Now, if you know how dog movies tend to go, you may already be a bit nervous—especially if you’re a dog lover.

But be not afraid: WORLD arts and culture editor Collin Garbarino has a review of the new film in theaters this weekend. It’s titled Heart of the Beast.

COLLIN GARBARINO: Dog lovers have complicated feelings when it comes to dog movies. The genre doesn’t matter. If there’s a dog in it, there’s a pretty good chance he’s going to die.

In Brad Pitt’s new movie Heart of the Beast, Pitt plays James, an army veteran stranded in the wilderness with his dog. It’s the kind of set up that’s bound to cause fear and trepidation in the hearts of dog lovers.

SOUND: [Dog whimpering]

But no need for fear. In the opening shot, director David Ayer establishes the dog survives. It’s a nice reassurance but be warned: Just because the dog lives, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows.

The film begins with James on vacation in the wilds of Alaska with his German Shepherd Odin, whom he affectionately calls “Odie.” James is a retired Green Beret, and Odin was his combat dog. This getaway is a form of therapy for the pair. They’ve both experienced the horrors of war. And they’ve got the psychological and physical scars to prove it.

JAMES: It’s OK, boy. Just a bad dream. We’re not there anymore.

Soon, however, their idyllic retreat into nature becomes a struggle for life and death as nature’s beauty gives way to peril.

JAMES: We’re not going to die out here.

Heart of the Beast is both a magnificent celebration of the world’s natural splendor and a taut survival thriller. It was filmed on location in New Zealand, much of it in areas where no film crew had previously ventured. Cinematographer Mauro Fiore, who won an Academy Award for his work on Avatar in 2009, creates stunning visuals that immerse the audience in this wilderness. The movie’s probably worth seeing just for the awe-inspiring scenery.

The narrative is just as compelling as the setting. Stories about man’s best friend have a built-in appeal, but there’s another emotional layer to this movie. Odie isn’t just James’ dog. He’s a comrade in arms. His loyalty and dependability have been tested in the crucible of war. This trek through the wilderness isn’t the first time they’ve had to rescue each other. And as they attempt to escape danger, you feel the spiritual fatigue tied to their world weariness.

JAMES: Fifty-eight miles. No one’s coming for us. We’re just going to have to do this the hard way.

But along with their grit and determination, we also get glimpses of the hope and comfort the two find in each other’s companionship.

The bare-bones nature of this story feels refreshing in an age in which studios believe audiences only care about overly long epics full of computer-generated spectacle. Heart of the Beast contains nothing extraneous in its one-hundred-one-minute runtime. For most of the movie, Pitt and his canine co-star are the only faces we see. Pitt plays James as grizzled, devoted, and determined, and his performance carries the emotional weight of this film. And for the most part, he’s the only person with any lines.

Moreover, James is the kind of hero that will appeal to the kind of middle-America folks Hollywood often ignores. Not only is he a veteran, but he’s an outdoorsman. He enjoys camping, fishing, and hunting. He even wears a Bass Pro Shops t-shirt and reads Cormac McCarthy. It’s nice to see a conservative-coded character portrayed in such a sympathetic manner.

Sensitive viewers, however, need to be aware that this movie is rated PG-13 for violence, peril, and bodily harm. James and Odin’s journey can be painful to watch.

JAMES: We’ve been through worse.

Ayer doesn’t sugarcoat or romanticize the beauty of nature. The elements are brutal, and eventually the hunter becomes the prey. The movie contains blood, bone-crunching injury, and rough-and-ready surgery that might cause you to watch through your fingers. But in the end, the authentic brutality serves to highlight the theological subtext that undergirds the film.

Not only is Ayer himself ex-military, but he’s also a Christian. And you can’t understand Christianity without understanding the world’s inherent goodness and its violence. Ayer’s 2014 World War II movie Fury, which also starred Brad Pitt, was notable for its favorable presentation of faith. I recently got to talk with Ayer, and in our conversation, I asked him about certain allusions to faith in Heart of the Beast. He confirmed they were intentional.

DAVID AYER: The core theme… It’s really spiritual endurance and unconditional love, sacrificial love.

There’s nothing preachy about this film. Rather, the themes are embedded in both its script and visual imagery. It wouldn’t be right to treat James and Odin’s journey as an allegory like Pilgrim’s Progress, but as you watch, you’ll see the pair persevere through hardship like Bunyan’s hero did. And just as the Bible shows that salvation comes through judgment, the film suggests that the way of healing comes through adversity and sacrificing for those you love.

JAMES: I got you.

I’m Collin Garbarino.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. Time now for Listener Feedback for the month of September. 

We got several messages about Lauren Canterberry’s on September 3rd story about fetal diagnoses and a family who had a baby with Trisomy 18. Carlan Wendler sent this and prefaced it by saying he’s a pro-life missionary doctor and father of kids he’ll first meet in heaven.

CARLAN WENDLER: The way you close that segment with the loss of the child, the loss of that relationship, but the hope that remains in Christ was so fitting and was a wonderful apologetic for the Christian worldview, the biblical perspective on life in and outside of the womb, and even after death. So thank you so much. We appreciate all that you guys do. Keep it coming.

BROWN: Wesley Garrett from Gainesville, Florida was also moved by the story:

WESLEY GARRETT: I just wanted to say thank you for reporting on stories that are telling the truth and representing the fight of faith, well, even in the midst of difficulty and an outcome that we don't hope for, I was so thankful for their courage to share their story and encourage parents to fight for their children, no matter what the outcome is. To trust in God, so continue to keep up the great work, reporting honestly and truthfully on hard stories like these.

EICHER: Mollie Bruno said she had not known much about the Shroud of Turin prior to Les Sillars’ Doubletake episode on September 19th…and it made her consider the things we have not seen, but still believe in.

MOLLIE BRUNO: The shroud is something I've vaguely heard about. And I avoid looking into it for the same reasons that I avoid watching shows like The Chosen or a movie like The Passion of the Christ and a lot of really good things that are out there that are artistic and creative and help people understand the Bible. But I also understand the divisiveness and really appreciated the starting call out of the naysayers and pray John 17:26 over all of us that we may know, make His name known and continue to make it known so that the love of the Father for Jesus is in us all, unified by the Holy Spirit. And I wanted to comment that I especially liked the witness and the affirmation of the person who said that that the shroud is not for everybody, and that's okay. I'm in that camp. But my hope is because I'm more of a Doubting Thomas, that story speaks to me, and I recognize the snare and want to keep my mind and imagination free for the Lord to put the images in it when I read the Word and not have those seem familiar when I meet Him when He comes again.

BROWN: And Lisa Paige Carter from Chesterfield Virginia had this to say about Mary Reichard’s interview with Dr. A.S. Ibrahim on September fifth:

LISA PAIGE CARTER: It brought such clarity to my understanding of Sharia law and helped me to see how it is not compatible with the U.S. Constitution. It was helpful to hear from someone who grew up in the Middle East, learned from Muslim primary sources written in Arabic, and has experienced how Sharia law plays out in daily public life. I appreciated how he was able to contrast those experiences with the freedoms that he experiences living in America. He gave concrete examples of how Sharia law affects legal, political, and domestic matters and contrasted it well with how those same matters would be handled under U.S. law. This gave me a renewed sense of gratitude for the freedoms that we enjoy in America, and it has informed future conversations that I may have with those in my sphere, and gives me confidence in my political stance on this issue. I am so grateful for the thoughtful, insightful questions that WORLD's journalists, like Mary Reichard, Myrna Brown, Lindsay Mast, and Jenny Rough ask in their interviews, and how they're able to get to the heart of the matter in a rational, unemotional, yet pragmatic way. They each handle interviews and reports with such professionalism and poise. Keep up the good work.

EICHER: Finally, Jeremy Bergwerff from Grand Rapids, Michigan said it was not a story but a scripture from Ecclesiastes 3 that we read at the end of the show this past Monday that made him think.

JEREMY BERGWERFF: Usually, when I'm finished and I haven't reached my destination yet, I'll switch over to the next podcast. But after listening to Nick read through the passage in Ecclesiastes, referencing the many things for which there is a proper time, I paused and was drawn to reflect. I'm in my mid-40s. I have friends with infant children. My own kids are in high school and college, and I'm seeing my parents age. I've had more than a few friends pass away from illness. Time has opened my eyes to more of the breadth of life. Typically, the scripture at the end of the pod is a bit shorter, but your extra length this morning gave me a good reminder of all the Lord has ordained for us in the length of time that we do have here. Thank you for the reminder today.

And that’s this month’s Listener Feedback. Thank you to everyone who called or sent in voice memos this month. We love to hear it–please send along your thoughts to editor@wng.org.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Now it’s time to name the crew who helped with this week’s programs:

Mary Reichard, David Bahnsen, Lauren Smyth, Kim Henderson, Cal Thomas, Hunter Baker, Mary Muncy, Daniel Suhr, Nina Oetting, Claire Wilkerson, Janie B. Cheaney, Caleb Welde, John Stonestreet, and Collin Garbarino.

Thanks also to our breaking news crew: Kent Covington, Steve Kloosterman, Travis Kircher, Daniel Devine, and Christina Grube.

And thanks to the technical production team: Benj Eicher, Carl Peetz and Josh Goniea.

Harrison Watters is Washington producer, Kristen Flavin is features editor, Emma Eicher is assistant producer, Lindsay Mast is Producer. I’m Executive Producer Nick Eicher.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

The World and Everything in It comes to you from WORLD Radio. WORLD’s mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates, and inspires.

The writer of Hebrews says about Jesus: “He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become as much superior to angels as the name he has inherited is more excellent than theirs.”​​ —Hebrews 1:3–4

King Jesus is His name. And He’s waiting for you this weekend. Find a Bible-believing church and meet Him there. And Lord willing, we’ll meet you back here on Monday

Go now in grace and peace.


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