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On Culture Friday, John Stonestreet on abortion statistics since the Dobbs decision; a review of a thriller; and October’s Listener Feedback. Plus, a father and son make NBA history and the Friday morning news


Sergio Castellitto, center, in a scene from Conclave Associated Press/Focus Features

PREROLL: Each month, more than 200,000 unique listeners tune in to The World and Everything in It. In just a few minutes, we’ll hear from a few of them. We’ve got an emergency room doctor, a father of five, a college professor, and a history buff: They all have something interesting to say about a few of our recent segments. Stay with us.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning!

Straight ahead, abortion statistics since the Dobbs decision, tone-deaf humor, and the consequences of legalizing marijuana.

NICK EICHER, HOST: That’s ahead on Culture Friday. John Stonestreet is standing by.

And later WORLD Arts and Media Editor Collin Garbarino with a review of a new film set in the Vatican:

BELLINI: No sane man would want the papacy.

LAWRENCE: Some of our colleagues seem to want it.

And your listener feedback.

BROWN: It’s Friday, October 25th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

BROWN: Now news with Kristen Flavin.


SOUND: [Live fire in Taiwan]

KRISTEN FLAVIN: Live fire exercises in Taiwan » Last night the waters near the Taiwan Strait turned into a virtual war zone, and while the conflict wasn't real, the ammunition was.

Taiwan's armed forces conducted “live fire” exercises on the outlying Penghu Island. The operation was meant to simulate an incursion by Chinese coast guard vessels and other watercraft into Taiwanese waters.

JYUN-YAN: [Speaking in Mandarin]

Taiwanese Lieutenant Colonel Chen Jyun-yan says the purpose of the drills was to improve the combat abilities of Taiwanese forces at night as well as strengthen their defensive capabilities.

The drills underscore rising tensions between Taiwan and China, as Chinese incursions into Taiwanese waters and airspace have increased in recent weeks.

BRICS » Are North Korean troops on the ground in Russia?

Russian President Vladimir Putin was asked that very question yesterday at the conclusion of the BRICS summit— a meeting of three dozen nations, including Russia, China, and Iran.

Officials in the United States, Ukraine and South Korea have all alleged that North Korean troops are preparing to join the front lines in Russia's war with Ukraine.

Putin's answer did little to alleviate those concerns.

PUTIN: [Speaking in Russian]

Putin saying any images of North Korean soldiers in Russia—if they exist—would be both serious and significant. He goes on to say that any escalation in the conflict will be the fault of Ukrainian forces as well as the United States.

Yesterday Russian lawmakers ratified a pact with North Korea in which the two nations pledged mutual military assistance.

SOUND: [Israeli demonstration]

Israel update » Hundreds of demonstrators took to the streets of Jerusalem last night, calling for the release of more than 100 hostages still held by the terrorist group Hamas.

DEMONSTRATOR: [Speaking in Hebrew]

One of the demonstrators there blaming Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for failing to secure the release of the hostages. She says every moment he delays is shedding innocent blood.

Meanwhile, the Israeli military is facing criticism for a strike yesterday on a school building in the central Gaza strip.

SOUND: [Scene of school strike]

Palestinian officials say more than a dozen people died— some of whom were women and children.

But Israel's military says it was targeting Hamas militants inside the school and Hamas regularly hides its military operations among civilian targets.

Baltimore Bridge settlement » The owner and manager of the Dali container ship that crashed into the Baltimore bridge reached an agreement Thursday with the U.S. Federal Government. WORLD’s Paul Butler has more:

PAUL BUTLER: Singapore based companies Grace Ocean Private and Synergy Marine Group have agreed to pay more than $100 million dollars to settle a Justice Department civil lawsuit.

The companies had sought to limit their liability for the crash to less than half that amount.

The settlement is intended to recoup the money the U.S. government spent responding to the Port of Baltimore disaster: Costs from clearing the wreck of the container ship and collapsed bridge girders so the port could reopen in June.

The operation required removing 50,000 tons of debris.

The state of Maryland filed separate claims, as it estimates it will cost more than $1.7 billion dollars to rebuild the bridge. Any funds recovered by Maryland for bridge reconstruction will reduce the project costs paid by the U.S. government.

For WORLD, I’m Paul Butler.

Menendez brothers resentencing » Nearly 30 years ago, Erik and Lyle Menendez were each convicted of first-degree murder in the 1989 killings of their parents.

Their sentence? Life without the possibility of parole.

But yesterday Los Angeles County District Attorney George Gascon announced a decision that could change that.

GASCON: We're going to recommend to the court that the life without the possibility of parole be removed and they would be sentenced for murder, which because there are two murders involved, there will be 50 years to life. However...since they were under 26 years of age at the time that this crimes occurred, they will be eligible for parole immediately.

During their trial the brothers said Erik Menendez had been sexually abused by his father and their parents were going to kill both of them to cover it up.

Prosecutors are expected to file the resentencing petition today, and a hearing could come within a month. If the court grants that resentencing, it could provide the brothers with their first chance at freedom in 34 years.

Biden to apologize to Native American community » President Biden is in Arizona today, to apologize on behalf of the American people.

BIDEN: I'm heading to do something that should have been done a long time ago: to make a formal apology to the Indian nations for the way we treated their children for so many years. That's why I'm going. That's why I'm heading west. 

The President there speaking yesterday from the White House lawn just before heading to the Grand Canyon State.

Biden is scheduled to make his first-ever visit as president to Indian country today. He'll tour the Gila River Indian Community's reservation near the outskirts of Phoenix.

During the visit he'll officially apologize for the U.S. government's role in the abuse and neglect of Native American children who were sent to federal boarding schools to assimilate into American culture.

I'm Kristen Flavin.

Straight ahead: Culture Friday with John Stonestreet. Plus, your listener feedback.

This is The World and Everything in It


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Friday the 25th of October, 2024.

Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

It’s time for Culture Friday, and joining us now is John Stonestreet, president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast.

Good morning!

JOHN STONESTREET: Good morning.

EICHER: John, I’d like to call attention to a big story in The New York Times. It cites a new study showing that since the reversal of Roe versus Wade the actual number of abortions increased in most states that ban it. In states like Mississippi and West Virginia, the story says, the number of abortions increased significantly. Telehealth abortions, in particular, saw a dramatic rise, with monthly averages jumping from 8,000 to 20,000 between 2022 and 2023. That’s a 150 percent jump in a single year. Overall the prevalence of abortion in the U.S. has risen, with nearly 600-thousand abortions in the first half of 2023; so we’re on track for 1.2 million when the numbers come in from last year. What does this story tell you?

STONESTREET: Well, I think the story tells us a lot. First is that we've never had great numbers on abortion because they've always been voluntarily reported state to state. There was never a full reckoning of all communities, and certainly not a full reckoning of the number of abortions that were being procured through the abortion pill or the abortion pill regimen. We had no numbers on that. You know, that's what happens when this stuff goes kind of completely unregulated. And you also had the unwillingness on the ground of local health officials, so to ever think we knew exactly what the full picture was, I think, was just wrong.

Secondly, I don't know that the overturning of Roe v. Wade was fundamentally about limiting the number of abortions. Certainly, there were high hopes that the states would trigger laws, that we'd see that, and some of the initial numbers seemed to report that. But at that time, of course, we had no way of knowing who was being sent over state lines, and who was headed over state lines, and all of that sort of stuff we just didn't know.

You know, I would suggest that probably at least some of this number has to do with the shift of half of the country politically from talking about abortion as being safe, legal, and rare, to talking about it as something to be celebrated and shouted, kind of in the same way that we have seen certain people celebrate their promiscuity. You know, this sort of celebration of what is wrong and evil is a way of normalizing this behavior.

So, I guess my point here is that there are so many factors. But look, the end of Roe was good, even if there hasn't been a net improvement in the number of lives. Now, is that what we want? Absolutely. In fact, we want abortion to be in the dustbin of history with slavery and other generational evils, no question about it. But the removal of a bad law is, in and of itself, an ontological good.

No one thought—or at least maybe some people did, but they should have never thought—that this was somehow the end of the issue, or that this was another way that the Supreme Court was “settling the issue of abortion.” It didn’t with Roe, and it didn’t with Dobbs. When we have this kind of lack of regulation, an increase of mobility, and all of that sort of stuff, with the cultural narrative changing on abortion, I’m not sure we should have expected something different.

EICHER: John, of course, the days are pretty much long gone when Saturday Night Live was funny, and a recent skit I think typifies why it’s not. The singer Ariana Grande was guest hosting and she appeared in a skit playing the part of a prepubescent boy who sings in a falsetto. It’s set in Renaissance Italy and the parents bring the boy to perform before a prince. Let’s listen and we’ll learn how the falsetto is achieved.

SNL actress, mother: Go ahead and sing for Prince Enzo, Antonio. [to prince] You’re gonna love this.

SNL guest host, Ariana Grande, as Antonio: [falsetto singing]

SNL actor, prince: Wow, that is very beautiful singing!

SNL actor, father: And did you notice how high his voice was?

SNL actor, prince: I did.

SNL actress, mother: Yes, Antonio is what we’re calling a castrato. It’s a new technique we’ve been experimenting with.

SNL actor, father: Yeah, it’s nothing crazy. You just castrate your son before puberty so his voice never drops.

It’s really heartbreaking how Ariana Grande plays the role of the boy. WORLD Opinions writer Joe Rigney noted and you really see this, the pained, awkward expression of the boy character. It hurts to watch. But Rigney observed: A joke about treating children in this way for adult fulfillment could only theoretically be funny in a society that would never do this.

This feels like one of those cultural turning points: Is there really anything we can all laugh at anymore?

STONESTREET: Uh, well, you know, I hope so, and I do think that there are some folks who are helping us laugh at ourselves and laugh at others. I think of the Babylon Bee’s best posts and that sort of stuff. There is something uniquely human about laughing and about seeing irony, and about even kind of the self-deprecation that, both in and of itself, acknowledges that there’s something valuable about us and also something broken about us—a way of kind of dealing with the tragedy that is part of our lives together.

But Joe is absolutely right that you can tell an awful lot about a culture by what you laugh at and even what you try to laugh at. I think you can tell a lot about the health and well-being of one's own soul by what you consider funny and what’s not funny. This isn’t absurd anymore. This is actually happening. Maybe one of the reasons SNL thought this would be funny is because basically the norm has moved to the other side. You don’t have that many teenage boys seeking castration. You have a whole lot of girls going through puberty, hating their bodies, and seeking these kinds of permanent alterations, which are damaging.

And the fact that, as some whistleblowers have pointed out, that population outnumbers the other five to one, is—again, none of this is funny. You know, we are a culture that duped an entire generation of women, in a sense, telling them that what’s wrong with the world was men. The answer was for them to be like men. And basically, it was another way for men to gain access to what belongs to women. I mean, I guess you could look and say, God really did get that curse right. I mean, that’s what He said was going to happen.

Even the promises of female empowerment have turned out to be so hollow. It should be offensive. Rigney is right on this. This should be offensive, and the fact that it isn’t tells you just how far detached a group of people can be from reality on a civilizational level. That’s what Romans 1 tells us.

BROWN: Verse 22…claiming to be wise, they became fools.

John, I want to turn your attention to what’s happening in Florida. People in that state will decide if they want to join 24 other states, along with D.C. to legalize recreational marijuana.

It’s legal in Colorado, where you live, and I’ve heard your horror stories… You recently wrote an article debunking one of the promises of legalized pot… personal freedom.

But it's not about personal freedom...you won't be growing your own plants in your backyard.

STONESTREET: Uh, well, listen, weed has been one of those false promises as well. It was promised along the lines of freedom. It was promised along the lines of an incredible influx of dollars that will go to things we should all support, like schools and roads. And there may have been a time where we could say, well, we’re just not sure. Now we know. This past week, The Daily podcast from The New York Times documented the harms of marijuana, particularly its link to psychosis. And they pointed to something, of course, that we should have known—it was obvious to anyone who actually was willing to not just fully trust these talking points.

When we talk about marijuana today, we’re not talking about what happened at Woodstock in the '60s. We’re not talking about Cheech and Chong. We’re talking about incredible levels of potency and intensity that have direct correlations with incredible health problems, including psychosis, depression, and suicidality.

Now what that does is it now shows, too, that the promises of this incredible social windfall that was going to happen financially came along with an incredible financial set of costs that offset that windfall, particularly when it comes to traffic accidents, policing, and the damage done to young families. All of that points to the first thing, which is, what do we mean by freedom?

Listen, the fundamental thing is freedom from or freedom for. If you promise that something will bring greater freedom because it frees you from expectations or frees you from restraints, that freedom always devolves into tyranny. And it’s the worst kind of tyranny. It’s the tyranny that one has to oneself, to one’s own passions.

And, you know, you just need to sniff this out, whether we’re talking about sports gambling, the lottery, or weed. If the freedom that’s promised is not freedom for flourishing but is freedom from somebody else’s rules and expectations, it’ll be short-lived. Look, the numbers are in. Florida needs to look at Colorado, and we need to look across to these other states that have tried it. It hasn’t been okay, and even The New York Times is recognizing this.

BROWN: John Stonestreet is president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast. Thank you, John.

STONESTREET: Thank you both!


NICK EICHER, HOST: A first this week in the NBA, first-ever father and son appearance in a pro-basketball game. LeBron James and Bronny James taking the court in the LA Lakers’ season opener.

CROWD: (Cheering)

Father and son checked in simultaneously with four minutes left in the second.

For LeBron James, just gratitude:

LEBRON JAMES: So to be able to have this moment where I'm working still and I can work alongside my son, it's one of the greatest gifts I've ever got from the Man above, and I'm gonna take full advantage of it.

Sweet victory, too, for the Lakers. 110-103 over the Minnesota Timberwolves.

It was a first in the NBA, but not a first in pro-sports. Tim Raines and Tim Raines Jr. played in the majors together for the Baltimore Orioles and Ken Griffey and Ken Griffey Jr. for the Seattle Mariners. And of course, Mr. Hockey, Gordie Howe, took center ice with his boys Marty and Mark Howe on the wings for the Whalers in the old World Hockey Association, a different sort of Gordie Howe hat-trick. (If you know, you know.)

It’s The World and Everything in It.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Friday, October 25th.

Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: arts and culture editor Collin Garbarino reviews a film that imagines the interworking of one of the world’s most secretive elections.

COLLIN GARBARINO: Conclave, starring Ralph Fiennes, adapts Robert Harris’ 2016 novel of the same name for the screen. It’s a political movie, though not in the traditional sense, and so far it’s one of 2024’s most compelling dramas.

TREMBLY: The pope is dead. The throne is vacant.

The death of the pope naturally sends the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church into disarray. Immediately the whisper campaign begins. The church’s leadership suffers from factionalism, and everyone suspects everyone else of jockeying for position… attempting to grab the papal throne for themselves.

BELLINI: No sane man would want the papacy.

LAWRENCE: Some of our colleagues seem to want it.

A conclave of cardinals must select the new pontiff, and it falls to the dean of the College of Cardinals, Cardinal Lawrence to convene the conclave. Fiennes plays Lawrence, and he seems to be one of the few men who genuinely doesn’t want to become pope.

LAWRENCE: The conclave begins now.

Not only does Lawrence not want to be pope, he feels ill equipped for the job of running the conclave. The Catholic Church is suffering a crisis of leadership, while Lawrence is in the midst of his own personal crisis of faith. He’s a man plagued by uncertainty and doubts, but he carries on with his duties as a final favor to his old friend, the deceased pope.

MANDORFF: Another cardinal has just turned up. He was never on our list.

LAWRENCE: He has to be an imposter.

From the beginning, the conclave has an air of mystery to it. A previously unknown cardinal arrives just before Lawrence sequesters the group. The newcomer’s credentials seem legitimate, but his arrival causes a stir. While Lawrence is trying to learn what he can about this enigmatic clergyman, he also hears rumors that one of the more established cardinals shouldn’t have been admitted to the conclave, requiring even more detective work.

The various factions within the hierarchy view the election of the new pope as a pivotal moment. Lawrence pleads for unity and tolerance, but ethnic and social tensions are tearing at the conclave’s harmony. One Italian bishop wants to return the church to its conservative roots in order to defend the institution from the chaos of the contemporary world. An American cardinal argues that the church must continue the liberalizing program of the deceased pope. Another man hopes to become the church’s first African pope, while yet another embodies unrestrained ambition in his quest to attain the papacy.

BELLINI: What if I know in my heart I’m not worthy.

LAWRENCE: You are more worthy than any of us.

BELLINI: I’m not.

LAWRENCE: Well then, tell your supporters not to vote for you. Pass the chalice.

BELLINI: And let it go to him. I could never live with myself.

Conclave is being billed as a thriller. There’s no murder mystery or physical danger here, but the designation feels appropriate. Director Edward Berger, whose All Quiet on the Western Front won the Academy Award for Best International Feature Film in 2023, has created a taut drama filled with intrigue. Lawrence paces the halls of the Vatican searching for truth, resembling an exhausted film-noir detective more than a clergyman. The color saturated cinematography accentuates distressed Renaissance architecture, creating the feeling that this venerable institution has seen better days. The brooding, strings-heavy score by Oscar-winner Volker Bertelmann complements the visuals by imparting a sense of danger and secrecy to the film.

Also, you couldn’t ask for a better cast to wear the scarlet garments of the College of Cardinals. Lawrence’s friend Cardinal Bellini is brought to life in a multilayered performance by Stanley Tucci.

BELLINI: Am I the last?

LAWRENCE: Not quite. How are you?

BELLINI: Oh, well… you know… fairly dreadful.

All the principal characters are played by esteemed actors who bring so much gravitas, scenes begin to groan under the collective weight. Fiennes gives a performance that will no doubt put him in the conversation for an Oscar.

But what of the politics? I was impressed by how deftly the script handled the factional divide between the conservative and liberal cardinals. Lawrence’s sympathies lie with the liberal wing, and so you expect the film would offer a simplistic “liberal good and conservative bad” dichotomy. But Conclave subverts those expectations, giving viewers a more interesting and nuanced story. Very few characters avoid the ugly side of man’s political nature, where principles quickly give way to pragmatism.

LAWRENCE: This is a conclave, Aldo. It’s not a war.

BELLINI: It is a war. And you have to commit to a side!

Conclave is a satisfying psychological drama, but the script falls short in a couple of ways. First, these churchmen have surprisingly little to say about the Bible’s teachings or church tradition during their debates. Even the conservative characters seem more concerned with cultural tradition than doctrinal conviction. Wouldn’t you think there would be at least one conversation among the Cardinals about Scriptural fidelity? Second, the film ends with a plot twist that’s straight out of left field. The twist is in the book, but the film doesn’t set it up convincingly, and the audience is left with some clumsy messaging that steals some of the power from the more nuanced scenes that came before.

I’m Collin Garbarino


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Friday, October 25th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. Before we continue our program, just a quick note about our next WORLD Journalism Institute course…our annual Mid-Career Course will run from March 2nd to March 8th, 2025. The application deadline is fast approaching.

The mid-career course is for both novice and experienced writers in age ranges from the mid-30’s and up. Maybe you’re looking for a new career or perhaps hoping to get back into the workforce after raising a family.

BROWN: I attended the WJI Mid-Career program in 2018, after being in network affiliated television and journalism for 30 years. It’s a wonderful course for anyone hoping to hone their journalism skills while reporting with a Biblical worldview.

EICHER: WORLD covers the cost of most meals, housing, and tuition through donor-funded scholarships. AND you have the opportunity to have your work published on WORLD platforms.

BROWN: Applications are due next Friday, November 1st. Visit wji.world and look for the Mid-career program information to submit your application. Again, that’s wji.world.

EICHER: Now it’s time for Listener Feedback. Today something a little different. We got a lot of voice mails this month, and a few of them are rather lengthy so we’re going to spend less time on the setup, and more time listening. We’ve edited each of them for clarity and length so you can hear as many in as possible.

Our first comes from listener Mike Dorrity from South Carolina. He got in touch with us about a story by Leah Savas October 3rd disproving the accusations that doctors aren’t caring for women after miscarriages.

And when John Stonestreet further set the record straight a few days later—our listener was prompted to make this comment:

MIKE DORRITY: Thank you so much for that reporting. I think it's absolutely accurate and I can confirm that that is true on the ground.

I'm an emergency physician in South Carolina. I can honestly tell you that our care of women has not changed a single bit since our law has passed. In fact, during the crafting of that legislation, several OBGYNs in our system came to leadership and came to the Ethics Committee of which I'm a co-chair and we talked about this at length.

I ended up actually speaking with one of our senate co-sponsors of the legislation and he assured me the intent is not to interfere with emergent care but strictly to outlaw elective abortion.

So care of women in emergency situations should not and has not changed a single bit.

And I know you all were very gracious in your reporting, but to physicians who would act out of fear, I would say, and I would counsel them “to do your job.”

You need not be concerned over what some misguided and uninformed prosecutor might do. And if that's how you're gonna act frankly, I would prefer that you do something else and not be around me or my family if we needed your help in an emergency situation. That sounds pointed and blunt, but I think it's time to call some of these people out. Nevertheless, thank you for y'all's gracious reporting. Keep up the good work.

BROWN: Next, reaction to another story on the Lifebeat. October 16th, WORLD’s Emma Freire reporting on a movement gaining momentum: so-called “pronatalism.” Listener Tom Lovin is a father of five:

TOMMY LOVIN: I was so jarred by the movement's surface level approach that children can be some type of answer to a political problem and a societal problem when the calling to be parents is so much bigger than that.

Really what pronatalism doesn't recognize is that being a parent is a high calling, and it's an answer to the creation mandate that we as parents introduce God's most favored part of creation, humankind into the world. We help to create and disciple and inspire a generation of people who are made in the very image of God.

That's our calling. When we're faithful to that calling, and that blessing as parents then will naturally see the political and societal issues begin to slowly turn around toward the truth. But we won't see that shift if we only begin on the surface issues that pronatal is focusing on.

We’ve seen these sorts of movements within our society. Recently, we get obsessed with the ethics around us and not the deeper powerful moral issues that are created when people begin to wander away from God and try to solve things on their own. So again, thank WORLD for helping us think and for bringing these powerful current issues to the forefront. Really appreciate you guys.

EICHER: And now for something completely different: After this past Monday’s Legal Docket on the conflict between San Francisco and the Environmental Protection Agency, we heard from a professor of environmental engineering:

NATHAN HOWELL: Yeah, this is Nathan Howell. And I was calling in regards to the story about the wastewater and water quality issues around San Francisco. And I thought it was a really interesting story that I didn't, didn't know that much about and I'm, I'm glad that y'all covered it.

So I think it's important that y'all explain the difference between separated and, combined sewers, because the combined sewer design is, is a much older design.

In the south where I live, there are separate sanitary and storm sewers.

In the story that, that you all presented you all rightly said that the San Francisco Wastewater Treatment plant sometimes gets overloaded during rainy times. And it's because places like San Francisco have a combined sewer where they, where they put both of them together.

And so it has to hold water or discharge water that's less than fully treated to the Bay.

And it, it's one area for San Francisco that would be probably difficult for them to adjust in terms of improving their infrastructure. But that would be one really big way to help with their water quality problem would just be to switch to having a storm sewer and having a sanitary sewer or having green infrastructure for stormwater and a separate smaller system for sanitary sewer water.

Thanks for what you are doing. I appreciate your time.

BROWN: And time for just one more:

STEVE BLOOM: This is Steve Bloom from Bainbridge Island, Washington. I've been listening since the beginning of your show many years ago.

I especially love the WORLD history book segments and I have been so impressed recently with the work that Caleb Welde is doing his piece this week on George McDonald was excellent.

I went from knowing very little about George and his impact on history and on the early formation of the US to having a great amount of context and understanding of the role that he played and the way that the Lord used him.

I look forward to future WORLD history book segments as well as your program in general as it keeps me informed and excited about what God is doing in the world.

Thank you very much.

BROWN: Thanks to everyone who wrote and called this month. We’re grateful for the time you give to listen each day and for your feedback.

If you have a comment to share you can email editor@wng.org. You can include an audio file attachment to your email and we’ll consider it for air. You can even phone it in at 202-709-9595.

EICHER: And that’s this month’s Listener Feedback!


NICK EICHER, HOST: Well, it’s time to say thanks to the team members who helped put the program together this week:

Mary Reichard, David Bahnsen, Emma Perley, Leah Savas, Mary Muncy, Hunter Baker, Carolina Lumetta, Onize Oduah, Travis Kircher, Timothy Paul Jones, Anna Johansen Brown, Addie Offerins, Cal Thomas, John Stonestreet, Collin Garbarino and Lindsay Mast.

Thanks also to our breaking news team: Kent Covington, Lynde Langdon, Lauren Canterberry, Christina Grube, and Josh Schumacher.

And thanks to the guys who stay up late to get the program to you early: Johnny Franklin and Carl Peetz.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Our producers are Paul Butler, Kristen Flavin, and Harrison Watters, with assistance from Lauren Dunn and Benj Eicher.

The World and Everything in It comes to you from WORLD Radio. WORLD’s mission is Biblically objective journalism that informs, educates, and inspires.

The Bible says: “Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.” —Romans 5:1-2.

Be sure to worship Him with brothers and sisters in Christ in church on the Lord’s Day.

And Lord willing, we’ll meet you right back here on Monday.

Go now in grace and peace.


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