The World and Everything in It: October 19, 2023

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MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning! President Biden is in Israel today. What foreign policy stakes are involved?

AUDIO: We'll continue to work with you and partners across the region to prevent more tragedy to innocent civilians.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Also, Oklahoma OKs a religious charter school, but is that unconstitutional? Plus, a controversial pro-life strategy.

AUDIO: When we use photos of aborted babies, it’s extremely important to remember that these are actual children.

And WORLD commentator Cal Thomas says rising antisemitism must be contained.

REICHARD: It’s Thursday, October 19th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Good morning!

REICHARD: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Biden/Israel » President Biden is back in Washington this morning after a historic wartime visit to Israel.

At a joint press conference in Tel Aviv Wednesday, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the president …

NETANYAHU: Your visit here is the first visit of an American president in Israel in a time of war. It is deeply, deeply moving. 

For his part, President Biden declared …

BIDEN: I come to Israel with a single message, you are not alone. You are not alone.

He also said he asked Netanyahu and other leaders to allow life-saving humanitarian aid into Gaza, and Israel agreed. It will allow Egypt to deliver limited quantities of aid to the Gaza Strip.

And Biden told reporters on Air Force One, he did not have to twist the prime minister’s arm. .

BIDEN: I got no pushback, virtually none.

Israel/hospital » He also said U.S. intelligence believes it was not an Israeli airstrike that leveled a hospital in Gaza on Tuesday.

The United States says evidence points to a possibly errant rocket fired by Palestinian militants.

At least 500 people died in the explosion. And Israeli military spokesman Peter Lerner said Hamas is trying to use their deaths against Israel in its propaganda war.

LERNER: Hamas cannot be trusted. This is an organization that will butcher babies in their bedrooms. They’ll have no problem lying to you.

Israel released a flurry of video, audio and other information that it said showed the blast was instead due to a rocket misfire by Islamic Jihad, another militant group operating in Gaza.

Israel ambassador » Back in Washington, Republican Senators on Wednesday grilled President Biden’s pick to be the next US ambassador to Israel.

Jack Lew told lawmakers …

LEW: I will do my utmost to end the horrific attacks by Hamas and ensure that Israel has what it needs to defend itself.

Lew is a former chief of staff to President Barack Obama. And some Republicans are wary of the nominee over his role in helping craft the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.

GOP Senator Jim Risch:

RISCH: Not only will you need to support Israel as it responds to these attacks, but also as it can, as it contends with the enduring and indeed existential Iranian threat, which I think is an underlying and foundational issue here. I have reservations about your ability to do that.

Lew vowed that he’ll be fully committed to efforts to deny Iran nuclear weapons.

Democrats are calling for his quick confirmation to show support for Israel.

Speaker » Meantime, across the Capitol Rotunda …

AUDIO: [Gavel Banging] The House will come to order.

More than 400 members again cast their votes for speaker of the House …

AUDIO: Of which the honorable Jim Jordan of the state of Ohio has received 199.

That’s one vote fewer than Jordan received on the first ballot the day before.

He needs 217 yes votes to claim the gavel.

Trump v Biden polls » While former President Donald Trump continues to dominate the Republican primary race, polls suggest a hypothetical rematch between Trump and President Biden would rest on a knife’s edge.

Pollsters released three new polls this week pitting Trump against Biden. The incumbent president leads by 2 points or less in two of those polls while the Republican challenger leads in the other by 4 points.

An average of all recent Trump-Biden polls shows a virtual tie.

Amazon RX drones » Amazon is expanding its delivery fleet, but not with more trucks. WORLD’s Anna Johansen Brown explains.

SOUND: [Drone buzzing]

ANNA JOHANSEN BROWN: No, that’s not a swarm of bees…that’s the sound of an Amazon delivery drone.

The company says customers in College Station, Texas can have many over-the-counter medications delivered by drone within just an hour of ordering.

The drones will literally drop off the orders on customers’ doorsteps in a specially padded package.

The drones fly about 13 feet off the ground.

Amazon is planning to announce more locations eligible for drone deliveries later this year.

For WORLD, I’m Anna Johansen Brown.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: Iran’s role in attacks on Israel. Plus, Running for federal office to get pro-life ads on TV.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Thursday, the 19th of October, 2023. Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

First up: a trip to Tel Aviv. President Biden is in the Middle East today. His plan was to hold a summit with leaders from Israel, Jordan, and the Palestinians, but organizers canceled the event after Tuesday’s deadly explosion at a hospital in Gaza.

BROWN: President Biden’s trip is part of a larger war-time diplomacy plan, as the U.S. and Israel seek to confront terrorism.

Joining us now to talk about it is David Adesnik. He is a Senior Fellow and Director of Research at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.

REICHARD: David, good morning.

ADESNIK: Thank you. Thank you for having me.

REICHARD: David, President Biden met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday, and after their talks, he said this during a press conference:

BIDEN: We'll continue to work with you and partners across the region to prevent more tragedy to innocent civilians.

What can the U.S. do right away while waiting for the House to elect a Speaker and authorize funding?

ADESNIK: Well, one of the first things is what Biden is doing, which is demonstrating his solidarity by traveling to Israel. You know, there are some logistical complications for the Israelis that come with having such a high profile guest and can limit their military options while he's on the ground. But when you consider the fact that an integral part of the strategy for Hamas, for Iran, and for their partners is to drive a wedge between the United States and Israel to find a way to persuade the United States that it needs to back away that it needs to tell Israel to do less in fighting terrorism, Biden is going there and showing there is no daylight, that he's meeting with Netanyahu, that he is going to give Israel all the support it needs. So that alone is one of the very important things. Now beyond that, when you get into the nitty gritty of aid, a lot of things do need to be approved by Congress. But it's also possible that we can make some rapid transfers of certain items that will help the Israelis fight.

BROWN: David, The US government has also been working to get Americans out of Israel.

National Security Council John Kirby announced last week:

KIRBY: That the first charter flight that the State Department is organizing has departed from Israel and is en route right now into Europe.

BROWN: But Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said a flight to Europe wasn’t good enough, and he’s taken action to do more.

DESANTIS: We are having our first flight of people being rescued from Israel. It is landed. Over 260 people that wanted to get back to the United States and couldn't do it. There was a devoid of leadership so we stepped up and led. 

BROWN: Is DeSantis right that the U.S. State Department is failing to bring Americans all the way home?

ADESNIK: Well, I mean, it's also asking them to pay a bit for the travel, although I imagine the government has to be efficient to some extent. And, you know, DeSantis is leaning forward to show that he as a potential leader can do more, I'm sure in part, the challenges of running for president have made him want to show more than ever that he can do things that others wouldn't do. And it's unusual for a governor to step into foreign policy like this. And he actually partnered with a non governmental organization that specializes in getting Americans out of harm's way, in difficult places overseas. They worked in Afghanistan, they worked in Ukraine. So I don't think the states were on was abandoning the Americans. But you know, time is of the essence, I think people who may have been desperate to get home deserve the chance to get home as quickly as possible.

REICHARD: Shifting now to foreign policy. It’s evident that Iran helped fund and likely even plan the attack by Hamas on October 7th. If confirmed as true, will it change the Biden Administration’s policy goals? I mean, Biden’s been trying to return the U.S. to the 2015 Iran Nuclear Deal, a move Israel does not want us to make.

ADESNIK: Well, I can tell you, it absolutely should change the way the United States is thinking about the Iran Nuclear Deal. So what the White House has said, even while denying an Iranian role in planning the specific assault on October 7, says absolutely, the United States confirms, as everyone has widely known, Iran is a top funder of Hamas, it trains, it shares technology with them, it gives them weapons. So if you are giving 10s of millions of dollars every year to a terrorist organization, even if you didn't pull the trigger, or give a specific green light on the day that they murdered 1,400 people, you are fully responsible. And despite this being knowledge the government has the public has leading up before October 7, the Biden administration still wanted to move forward believing that Iran was a viable partner.

If anything, this horrific attack should reinforce that it never was and it never can be, never should be again. We cannot afford to give billions, right? The Biden policy of negotiating with Iran in an effort to get to the nuclear deal pays Iran just to negotiate with us not even to make concessions, right? The Biden administration says sanctions are still on; its officials have acknowledged to journalists they've eased up on oil sanctions. And as a result of easing up on enforcing the law, Iran has netted somewhere between 26 and 29 billion additional dollars, according to my colleagues' calculations. Obviously, we paid 6 billion for hostages to come home, and the money hasn't been disbursed yet. So the idea that Iran is a potential partner that we can trust, I think, you know, has to go out the window. It should have been out the window before we saw the way they cheated on the nuclear deal. That was one of the big imports when Israel found the secret warehouse in Tehran where Iran was keeping its nuclear files. You know, the Biden administration was not listening to all the reasons to do a 180 but hopefully it's finally received one that it's willing to accept.

BROWN: Are there any countries not directly involved in the war just yet that we should pay attention to in the coming days?

ADESNIK: Absolutely. I'll flag three of them. One is Lebanon. That is where Hezbollah, one of Iran's most potent terror proxies, is just on Israel's northern border. One of the biggest questions is are they going to come into this war? They had a brief war with Israel in 2006. They had been rearming aggressively with Iran has helped the entire time since including more advanced precision weapons that could target either civilians or Israeli power plants, airports, seaports; it could become a very difficult two front fight for Israel if Hezbollah enters. The other two countries we need to flag are Qatar and Turkey. Those are the countries that, despite nominally being US allies, are friends of Hamas. They have a foot on each side and the US needs to really step up the pressure. Hamas leaders have continually found refuge in both of those countries. They appear to have funding mechanisms in both of those countries, even though Turkey is a member of NATO and Joe Biden himself ensured the elevation of Qatar to the status of what we call a major non-NATO ally. So both of them are trying to sort of split the difference, say of course they are not happy with it with war and conflict. But the bottom line is unless they stop harboring Hamas and allowing funding of Hamas, serious action needs to be taken.

REICHARD: David Adesnik [uh-DEZZ-nick] is with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. David, thank you so much.

ADESNIK: My pleasure.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It:

Religion in the public school.

Last Monday, the board overseeing online schools in Oklahoma voted to recognize and fund a Catholic school. The name of the school is St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: The organization announced plans back in June to open as a charter school, but plenty of obstacles have been thrown in its path since then, from lawsuits by external groups like Americans United for Separation of Church and State, to opposition from the school’s chairman of the board.

BROWN: Why the struggle over public funds for a religious institution?

Joining us now to talk about it is Ernie Walton. He is Assistant Professor and Director for the Center for Global Justice at Regent University Law School.

REICHARD: Ernie, good morning.

WALTON: Good morning, Mary. Thank you for having me. It's an honor to be here.

REICHARD: So glad you are. Well, let's start with St. Isidore. What's the backstory to Oklahoma Catholics creating this online school?

WALTON: It's a great question. You know, recently, particularly since COVID, there has been a movement in the United States as COVID sort of was an open window for parents to sort of figure out what actually was happening in the public schools. They realized one, our kids are not being educated as the way we thought they were. And two, the schools, the public schools are teaching our children things that are contradictory to our worldview. And so parents have been pushing, thankfully, particularly hard after COVID, for more school choice and states have been responding in different ways. Whether it's-it's loosening homeschool regulations, voucher programs, or providing more options, like what we call a charter school. A charter school is a private school that operates with a contract through the state to educate children. The thing about charter schools is every state in the nation prohibits religious charter-charter schools from operating. And so St. Isidore is attempting to do something that no other—no state purports to allow, and no state currently does. And that's to operate what we call a religious Charter School. And that's sort of the background on St. Isidore.

REICHARD: No surprise, but groups like Americans United for the separation of church and state oppose this venture. One of the reasons it comes down to the contract itself, there's a section of the contract that lets the school claim religious protections when in conflict with Oklahoma law. Is this a novel provision or somehow unconstitutional?

WALTON: It's a great question. The answer is absolutely no. St. Isidore is a private organization, simple state. Now that question is going to be litigated before the Supreme Court. What is a charter school? Is it a state school, a public school, or is it a private school? And I think the answer is pretty clear. St. Isidore is a nonprofit corporation, a private organization, who has the right to religious freedom, just like a church, just like any other ministry and nonprofit corporation. Just because we're talking about education, doesn't change the fact that St. Isidore is a private organization, contracting with the state to do something the state says, ‘Hey, you're probably better at this than we are. And we'll let you run how you want to do it.’ And when the state does that, I think the Supreme Court case law that's come out over the past six years is very clear. If the state chooses to offer a public benefit, to allow private organizations to do something, they simply can't say you’re a religious organization - you don't get to participate. No one is forcing the state to have charter schools. There's no mandatory Oklahoma, you must have charter schools, but if they want to, the Supreme Court, and I think the original meaning of the Constitution, are clear - if you want to do it for secular charter schools, you've got to do it for religious charter schools.

REICHARD: Board Chairman Bob Franklin is a man of faith, and he opposes public funding for religious schools. Do you not see that as a consistent or substantive argument from a legal analysis?

WALTON: I understand his point, but I don't think it's a-a sound legal argument. And the simple fact as I explained of the matter is the Supreme Court has continually upheld over and over again, the ability of the state to allow state funding to go to private organizations, whether it's to parents who then get to choose to send their children through a voucher program, to a private religious school, or to a charter school. No one is forced to attend a charter school. I think we have to remember that. This is a choice of parents. And if a secular parent does not want to send their son or daughter to St. Isidore to receive a Catholic education, they can enroll them in the local public school and receive the type of education they want. But for the parents who don't want to do that we're creating an option for them to receive the type of education, they think that is best for their child. And the Supreme Court has consistently held that when the state allows that choice, there's no problem, there's no constitutional issue. We just haven't applied it yet to the charter school context, and that's why we’re in this litigation and I'm sure this case, or one of the cases that we'll deal with, will make it all the way up to the Supreme Court in the coming years.

REICHARD: Final question here, Ernie, do you think the mainstream media is missing anything important about this story that you want to mention here?

WALTON: I think they're, they're probably missing one key thing. And if we just step back and say, ‘Do we care about the kids or not?’ right? All the evidence shows that kids are much better educated in charter schools all over the nation. And there's no reason to believe that, of course, religious charter schools would be any different, if not more successful. So if we really care about the children, if that's the question, because of course, that's how it's couched. We're going to discriminate against children, we're going to hurt certain children. But if you just step back and look at the data, and I wish the media would cover this, I wish they would cover Thomas Sowell’s book and the actual data that shows time and again, school choice, charter schools time and again, are outperforming traditional public schools on all traditional metrics. And if that's the case, then why are we not authorizing more charters? Why are we not giving more school choice? And for me, the answer is one thing: we don't care about the kids, all we care about is indoctrinating them in a certain ideology. And I just submit to you that is not only unconstitutional, but it is frankly harmful to the kids that we say we care about.

REICHARD: Ernie Walton is an assistant professor and director for the Center for Global Justice at Regent University Law School. Ernie, thanks so much for your time.

WALTON: Thank you, Mary. It's an honor. Thanks for all you're doing. God bless you, and all that WORLD is doing, thanks.

SOUND: [Boat on water, crates being shut]

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Seventy years ago, Queen Elizabeth II gifted a pair of swans to the city of Lakeland, Florida. Today, their descendants number fifty beautiful birds.

Lakeland Park Supervisor Steve Williams:

STEVE WILLIAMS: The city, I mean they are a city icon. We take very good care of them.

Yes, they do! This week city workers gathered up the birds for their annual check-ups. Veterinarian Price Dickson:

PRICE DICKSON: Weighing them, checking for any infections, any wounds, any problems that need to be addressed.

The city budgets $10,000 a year to care for the swans and a local veterinarian donates her services. Williams says its worth all the trouble:

WILLIAMS: Oh, I have a blast. I hurt the next day, but I have a blast.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: I understand that, but the swans are back on swan lake.

BROWN: It’s The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Thursday, October 19th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: Using images of death to point voters to life.

Now, a quick word of warning: This story deals with some disturbing realities about abortion. If you have little ones listening, it might be a good idea to push pause and come back later.

Back in April, we told you about a man named Michael Bailey who builds homes from historic materials. But 30 years ago, Bailey had another mission: that of using disturbing images and a little known law to pull back the curtain on the horrors of abortion. Here’s WORLD Associate Correspondent Travis Kircher.

SIRI: Arrived.
BAILEY: It tells you you’re finally here?
TRAVIS: Yeah.
BAILEY: [LAUGHS] That’s funny!

TRAVIS KIRCHER, REPORTER: The last thing Michael Bailey looks like is a Congressional candidate. At 66 years old, you typically won’t find him in a suit and tie anymore. He’s more of a toboggan hat, steel-toed boots and heavy gloves kind of a guy.

But 30 years ago, Bailey decided he had to run for Congress. That’s the only way he could get his controversial pro-life ads on the air.

BAILEY: I went to all my friends and buddies and said, you know, “Hey! Now we’ve got a way to get the truth of abortion on television.”

It started in the 1980s, when Bailey was young, clean shaven, and owned his own ad company. He and his wife, Lori, got involved in the pro-life movement.

One day, at a crisis pregnancy center banquet in Indianapolis, they heard a speech from syndicated columnist Cal Thomas.

BAILEY: And Cal just screamed out during his talk, “Where are the pictures?” So he was bringing home the fact that the reason that we’re not winning this abortion battle in the hearts and minds of people is that we’re not showing the pictures.

Bailey had an idea: With his marketing background, he would create television ads showing the bodies of aborted babies. Those images might change the minds of viewers. But he couldn’t find a TV station willing to run the ads.

Discouraged, Bailey put his idea on hold—until he happened to discover a little known legal option.

BAILEY: I was reading a book about politics and it had a chapter about the Reasonable Access Law. Greatest law ever been written! [LAUGHS]

The Reasonable Access Law prohibits television stations from censoring political ads from federal candidates.

BAILEY: So then if you run for the president or U.S. Senate or the U.S. House, you can give them a TV commercial on any subject any way you want to say it, and if they edit it, they could lose their FCC license. I mean, there’s bite into this law. Well anyway, when I read that, I just went, “Eureka! Praise God!”

So in 1992, with no political experience, Bailey announced his candidacy as a Republican running for the U.S. House of Representatives in Indiana. And his graphic pro-life ads started hitting the airwaves.

ANNOUNCER: Warning! The following commercial has been paid for by the Bailey for Life for Congress Committee and is not suitable for small children!

One of the ads began by showing images of happy, playful babies…

ANNOUNCER: This is choice A.

It then cut to gruesome pictures of what Bailey said were the bodies of aborted babies.

ANNOUNCER: This is Choice B. [SCARY MUSIC]
BAILEY (ON AD): When something is so horrifying that we’re afraid to look at it, then why are we tolerating it? Pro choice is a lie. These babies would never choose to die.

Bailey said station managers were furious, but legally obligated to run the ads. Ted Linn was executive news producer at WISH-TV in Indianapolis at the time. Here he is on C-SPAN in 1992.

LINN: And so, Michael Bailey approached WISH-TV with this spot which showed aborted fetuses. It actually showed them, of course. Our general manager, Paul Karpowicz, did everything he could to fight this spot. Paul is a – well, he’s a good Catholic.

The public display of graphic abortion images—what’s sometimes called abortion victim photography—is controversial, even among pro-life advocates.

Simcha Fisher is a freelance writer who once wrote for the National Catholic Register. She calls the images a weapon of last resort, and believes they should never be placed on public display.

FISHER: When we use photos of aborted babies, it’s extremely important to remember that these are actual children. These are individuals who are made with a human soul by God, individually. And they’re not political props. They’re not arguments. They’re not talking points, they’re people. And it’s wrong to kill a person and it’s also wrong to use a person. And we shouldn’t be using people. Period.

Fisher also says the images could traumatize children, or women who have suffered miscarriages.

The ads certainly got attention. Bailey says he received hugs from some strangers—and crude gestures from others.

BAILEY: Women would call our offices freaking out – cussing us out.

Bailey would go on to win the Republican primary, but ultimately fall to the Democratic incumbent in the general election. He would run three more times—the last time in 2000. Each time he failed to win office.

AUDIO: [Sound of unscrewing tin from the ceiling]

That was then. Today, Bailey is busy building and restoring log cabins. Looking back, he admits he might have done things differently.

BAILEY: I think I was a little brash, but maybe I needed that at that time, because there was nobody supporting me.

He has no plans to run again. He says he’s in a different season of life—and it’s time to turn the movement over to a new generation of pro-life activists.

But Bailey is satisfied with what he accomplished. He saw himself as a social reformer documenting the injustices of his day. Each time he ran for office, his ads made the airwaves. That—to Bailey—was a victory.

BAILEY: Sure, I didn’t make any money in those years and I spent a lot of my own money. But not to do what you feel in your heart you’re called to do would be way worse.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Travis Kircher, in Corydon and Lanesville, Indiana.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Thursday, October 19th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Up next: WORLD commentator Cal Thomas says recent antisemitic rhetoric in America is something he’s heard before.

CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: The murderous attack on Israel has ripped away what remained of a thin veneer that has covered up growing antisemitism in America and some of the rest of the world. Until now it has only periodically raised its ugly head. The reaction by pro-Palestinian groups to Israel’s necessary and defensible response to the terrorist attacks from Gaza reveals how this disease has spread.

For years prior to the invasion, there were occasional demonstrations against Jewish and pro-Israel speakers on some college campuses. Now, some students have blamed the killings on Israel for its occupation of land that is rightfully and historically theirs. This is like blaming Jews for their own deaths in the Holocaust.

After the recent attacks by Hamas, swastikas emerged in at least two U.S. cities. The BBC reported antisemitic incidents “quadrupled in the UK.”

We are constantly warned that words matter and so they do. Words can be used to heal, or to incite. The American Jewish Committee–or AJC–has compiled a partial list of words used against Jews that have fueled hatred and violence, dating back to medieval times. Many of these words are now being reborn and spread by antisemitic websites.

Two of these include “Dirty, filthy Jews” and “dual loyalty,” which is used to suggest that Jews born in America are more loyal to Israel than the U.S.

“From the river to the sea” is another slogan found at pro-Palestinian rallies recently. Unlike more moderate calls for Palestinians to have their own state, this phrase implies the state of Israel should be eliminated, which is the point of the Hamas Charter and the goal of Iran.

Then there are the Holocaust deniers. These include people who say The Diary of Anne Frank is fake. Some also claim the Holocaust (if it happened) was a rationale for illegally establishing the modern Jewish state in 1948. Jews have had a presence in the land for nearly 4,000 years. There are also those who say the number of Jews killed during World War II was far less than 6 million.

No wonder then-General Dwight Eisenhower asked photographers to capture images at some of the Nazi death camps. He foresaw there would be people who would deny it happened.

Lyricist Oscar Hammerstein wrote a powerful song for the Broadway musical South Pacific called “You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught to Hate.” Among other things, the song argues babies aren’t born haters. Sadly, antisemitic books like “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” have been amplified today on social media and certain websites, teaching readers to hate Jews (and others).

There is no “cure” for antisemitism, but universal denunciation by all people of good will might help push it back in the closet, or under the Earth where it belongs. It also might help if some pro-Palestinian students listened to a Holocaust survivor and the true history of Judaism and Israel.

I’m Cal Thomas.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Tomorrow: Culture Friday with special guest Rosaria Butterfield, who’s just written a new book. And, a review of the new film Killers of the Flower Moon. It’s the true story of the Native Americans murdered in Oklahoma after oil was found on their land in the 1920s.

That and more tomorrow. I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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