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The World and Everything in It: November 30, 2023


WORLD Radio - The World and Everything in It: November 30, 2023

Christian web developers making chatbots for the church, Sudanese refugees at risk of losing humanitarian support, and a medical clinic for immigrants in Georgia. Plus, Cal Thomas on President Biden’s plummeting poll numbers and the Thursday morning news

Former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger Associated Press/Photo by Jacquelyn Martin

PREROLL: The World and Everything in It is brought to you by listeners like me. Hi. My name is Jenna and my family and I live in Virginia where my husband is in the Navy. Over the course of our several moves, I've had the privilege of teaching and coaching at four different private Christian schools. I hope you enjoy today's program.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning! Many Christians distrust artificial intelligence, but some web developers are working to change that.

AUDIO: People are getting more personal faster with our anonymous Christian AI than they are doing with most ministers.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Also fresh atrocities in a war-torn region of Sudan. We have a report. Plus, a medical clinic for immigrants in a small Georgia town.

AUDIO: Many of the people in our community have been through a refugee experience and experienced such loss and trauma

And WORLD commentator Cal Thomas on recent polls showing cracks in support for Biden’s potential second term.

REICHARD: It’s Thursday, November 30th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Good morning!

REICHARD: Time for news. Here’s Kent Covington

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Israel-Hamas-Gaza latest » President Biden says one more American has been freed by Hamas and is on her way home.

BIDEN: I’ve got some good news to report.

He spoke to reporters on a tarmac next to Air Force One.

BIDEN: Liat Beinin is safe in Egypt. She's crossed the border. She'll soon be home with her three children.

Four-year-old Abigail Edan has also been set free. The Israeli-American dual citizens were among 16 people released by the terror group Wednesday.

But another family received some heartbreaking news. The youngest of the hostages, a 10-month-old baby has reportedly been killed alongside his 4-year-old brother and their mother. That’s according to a statement by Hamas.

Hamas hostages families » On Capitol Hill the families of American hostages described their anguish in a House hearing.

CHEN: All of us now, our family members, this different universe that we live in. And we need you to do whatever you can. The holiday season is here. Unfortunately, we celebrated Thanksgiving with an empty chair. We want to be whole again with our families.

Ruby Chen, heard there, is the father of one of those hostages.

Orna Neutra’s son, who serves in the Israeli military, was also taken by Hamas.

NEUTRA: We urge you to press to bring the international community to demand proof of life and other basic humanitarian requirements and to bring them home as soon as possible. We must do everything to bring them back.

For the loved ones of those still held by Hamas, the October 7th attack isn’t over yet. And Democratic Congressman Gregory Meeks said the inhumanity of the terror group’s actions is breathtaking.

MEEKS: You can’t be human and take, as we’ve seen, babies! Three years old — just to think that somebody’s going to take a 3-year-old and hold him hostage.

Schumer on antisemitism » Meantime, in the Senate chamber,

SCHUMER: I come to the floor to speak on a subject of great importance: the rise of antisemitism in America.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is the highest-ranking Jewish elected official in U.S. history. He called surging antisemitism “a five-alarm fire that must be extinguished.”

He said liberal Jews feel particularly isolated as many on the left publicly protest Israel’s military response to Hamas terrorist attacks.

SCHUMER: When Jewish people hear chants like “from the river to the sea,” a founding slogan of Hamas, a terrorist group that is not shy about their goal to eradicate the Jewish people in Israel and around the globe, we are alarmed.

And he questioned the disproportionate criticism of Israel compared to Hamas.

In solidarity, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell described Schumer’s speech as “extraordinary.”

MCCONNELL: So again, I stand with him in condemning this hatred. And I stand with our ally, Israel as it defends its right to exist.

The Senate is currently weighing a substantial military aid package for Israel.

Kissinger obit » Henry Kissinger has died at the age of 100. 

As a Jewish teenager, he fled Nazi Germany with his family, settling in New York in 1938.

He went on to become an influential statesman. Kissinger exerted uncommon influence on global affairs as national security adviser and secretary of state under presidents Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford.

He’s heard here in a recorded phone call informing then-President Nixon that North Vietnam agreed to continue the release of U.S. prisoners of war.

NIXON: Mr. Kissinger, the president.
KISSINGER: Mr. President.
NIXON: Oh, hi, Henry.
KISSINGER: Just wanted you to know we’ve won.
NIXON: Oh really?
NIXON: That’s great. Tell me about it.

He used secret channels to pursue ties between the United States and China. And he negotiated the Paris Peace Accords to end U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

Kissinger was credited with many diplomatic achievements, including easing tensions with the Soviet Union. But he also had his share of critics. Some assailed him over his role in certain U.S. policies in Southeast Asia and for his support of authoritarian regimes in Latin America.

At age 99, he was still out on tour for his book on leadership.

Henry Kissinger died at his home in Connecticut.

Biden probe » House Republicans are firing back at Hunter Biden after the president’s son said this week that he’ll testify publicly, but does not want to do so behind closed doors. He said Republicans could manipulate private testimony in the press.

But Congresswoman Nancy Mace said lawmakers questioned Donald Trump’s son privately.

MACE: Don Jr. sat for not one, but two depositions before Congress. So, Hunter Biden, what are you so afraid of?

Republicans say President Biden was inappropriately tied to Hunter’s business dealings.

The White House says the ongoing impeachment inquiry is purely a political witch hunt.

Electric cars » A new survey suggests that electric cars are less reliable than gas-powered vehicles. WORLD’s Josh Schumacher has more.

JOSH SCHUMACHER: Consumer Reports surveyed well over 300,000 owners of electric vehicles—or E-Vs. And those owners reported roughly 80 percent more problems than owners of conventional cars.

Jake Fisher, senior director of auto testing at Consumer Reports … noted that E-Vs are still relatively new. And he said, “It’s not surprising that they’re having growing pains and need some time to work out the bugs.”

Meantime, nearly 4,000 car dealers across the country penned an open letter to President Biden this week. They’re calling on him to pump the brakes on proposed regulations that would require that E-Vs make up two-thirds of all new cars by 2032.

The dealers say the demand just isn't there yet and that unsold E-Vs are piling up on their lots.

For WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: Chatbots for the church. Plus, getting around language barriers to provide medical care for immigrants.

Time for news. Here’s Kent Covington.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Thursday the 30th of November, 2023. This is WORLD Radio. Thanks for listening! Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. First up on The World and Everything in It: Artificial intelligence comes to church.

Earlier this month, the Christian research firm, the Barna Group conducted a survey asking Christians about AI. They found that roughly two out of ten respondents agreed that AI is good for the church. And more than five out of ten thought AI is not good for the church.

BROWN: A similar survey from August found that only 9% of Christian leaders think the church should leverage AI for good.

That survey was conducted by the faith-oriented tech platform known as Gloo, g-l-o-o. Last month, the organization brought together a group of Christian software engineers to develop AI tools and guardrails for the church.

REICHARD: Will their efforts mitigate concerns over AI? Our Producer, Harrison Watters, has the story.

HARRISON WATTERS, REPORTER: Joe Suh was a Silicon Valley engineer and entrepreneur when he began attending Menlo Church in 2018.

JOE SUH: There's a few thousand congregants and it's very hard to get time, one on one time, with a pastor.

Suh was coming out of a spiritually dry season, and he had all kinds of questions about the Christian life he wanted to ask then senior pastor, John Ortberg.

SUH: And I thought it would be really cool if I can take in a pastor's entire sermon library, and be able to ask questions through a chatbot. And so that's what I did. That's what I built.

What started out as a research project turned into a company called Pastors.AI. But early on, Suh found that pastors didn’t trust the chatbot to answer spiritual questions on their behalf with words they didn’t actually say from the pulpit. He soon realized that the issue came down to the “temperature” or level of creativity of the A-I model.

SUH: And at first, we had the default temperature of 50%, which is basically okay, take this text and form a response from it, but we're allowing you to be 50% creative.

But 50% creativity with a pastor’s sermons can result in “hallucination.” That’s when the chatbot simply makes stuff up.

SUH: And so we dialed that temperature down to zero, basically 0%. We're telling GPT to not be creative. Just take the sermon transcript and form a response from it. 

Joe Suh’s current pastor at Menlo Church is Phil EuBank. He’s seen firsthand the benefits Pastors.AI has provided for members at his church—to be able to ask any question at any time of day, and get a biblical answer.

PHIL EUBANK: The fact that they can do that without having to sort of raise their hand and say, “This is me and I'm having this struggle, or I'm having this question,” it makes it so that hopefully somebody that's been in church for a long time, but still has a basic question, they have more than Google to try and chase to get that answer.

Suh and other Christian web developers recently met in Boulder, Colorado for Gloo’s AI and the Church Hackathon. Those developers see wider potential for what they call Christian GPT to provide a trustworthy alternative to large language models like ChatGPT.

CHASE CAPPO: The church has to be there and shine light in that digitally dark space, or the darkness will rule.

Chase Cappo is co-founder of BibleChat.AI, a program designed to reach young people around the world who are asking tough questions about God, sexuality, trauma, and life itself. Because BibleChat has been trained on the Bible and other good theological sources, the responses it gives are less prone to hallucination than secular models. It is also programmed to direct users towards scripture and fellowship in the church.

CAPPO: People are getting more personal faster with our anonymous Christian AI than they are doing with most ministers. And so it's worth saying, our AI just may know the Scriptures better than the pastor. And it's better trained in empathy or providing verbal empathy. Now, I'm not saying it's a replacement. It's a substitute to get someone to a person.

But even the idea of substituting a chatbot for a person worries some Christian leaders, who see spiritual growth as a relational reality.

JEREMY PIERRE: I can see where opening up to a chatbot might be a helpful initial step.

Jeremy Pierre is a biblical counselor and Dean of the Billy Graham School at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

PIERRE: But I know my own heart and I know how technology works enough to say, oftentimes, that's going to be a competition with the real difficult task of going and seeking help with someone.

Pierre draws a distinction between chatbots and people, who are made in the image of God. And, as Galatians 6:2 says, it is the responsibility of Christians to bear one another’s burdens and thus fulfill the law of Christ.

Pierre concedes that AI tools may be able to help Christians pursue the mission of glorifying God through evangelism and discipleship, but some significant limitations remain:

PIERRE: Answers to my individual questions on my singular screen are not going to necessarily contribute to that collective whole of living communally, and modeling righteousness and love towards one another. Now, it can be a tool for that, but we have to design our tools for that purpose, because that’s the central purpose of the church.

Tony Reinke is the Director of Communications at Desiring God and the author of God, Technology, and the Christian Life. He affirms the goodness of Christians creating tools like AI chatbots, but cautions against using those tools for pursuing spiritual growth.

TONY REINKE: What are we teaching people with AI? Are we teaching people who need help to turn to their Heavenly Father, or simply to open a new chat box dialog for a quick answer and quick fix? That simply does not authentically represent the pace of spiritual formation in God’s economy, which is measured in very long agricultural scales of slowly unfolding seasons.

Back in California, Joe Suh agrees that for Christians in the local church, spiritual growth won’t come through AI tools alone.

SUH: Because if someone is using a chatbot, to just chat with their AI pastor, and not be in fellowship, not be in community, not be in church, it's not going to fulfill their spiritual needs.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Harrison Watters.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: A forgotten conflict in northeast Africa.

Back in April, fighting between the military and a paramilitary force in Sudan’s capital city of Khartoum brought violence and an ongoing humanitarian crisis. The conflict has killed more than 9,000 people and displaced six million others.

BROWN: The fighting has spread to other parts of Sudan, like West Darfur where recent killings sparked warnings of another genocide in the region.

WORLD’s Africa reporter Onize Ohikere reports on the latest violence and how people are stepping in to help.

SOUND: [Crying women]

ONIZE OHIKERE, REPORTER: Earlier this month, several women huddled together along the border area that leads from Sudan to its eastern neighbor, Chad. They cried together after receiving word about the deaths of family members.

Around them, some children rode on donkeys while others held mats and small sacks of their belongings.

They are among the hundreds of thousands of people who fled into Chad from Sudan’s West Darfur region where the paramilitary group ramped up attacks this month.

The recent fighting that has plagued the country started off between two warring generals: Sudan’s army general, Abdel Fattah al-Burhan, and his former deputy, Gen. Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo. Dagalo heads the Rapid Support Forces or RSF paramilitary group.

SOUND: [Airstrikes]

Both men jointly led a coup two years ago after the earlier ouster of Sudan’s longtime dictator Omar al-Bashir. But disagreements over transitional leadership spiraled into outright fighting.

Luka, an Episcopalian priest, was stranded in Khartoum when the violence began. He had arrived from Sweden last December and was running a second round of discipleship classes with another group of baptisms in the works. We are not using his real name due to concerns about his safety and his future ministry in the area.

LUKA: It was a Saturday, and then they moved from the airport and they came and surrounded the church where we were living.

The rebels eventually allowed them to flee, but he left without any of his documents. It took months before he got across the border to safety in Egypt.

On November 4, Sudan’s army commanders fled their military base in the West Darfur town of Ardamata after days of attacks from RSF fighters. Salah Tour, who heads the Sudanese Doctors’ Union in West Darfur said the RSF then started a dayslong rampage across the region.

The United Nations refugee agency says more than 800 people died and hundreds of thousands have fled to neighboring Chad since then. Back in July, the UN said a mass grave with 87 bodies was found outside West Darfur’s capital of El Geneina, after similar ethnic-fueled killings.

The RSF now controls all but one major state capital in the region.

Over in northern Uganda, Texas native Jacob Lee established a Christian network in Darfur and other parts of Sudan through a Darfurian who fled south into Uganda.

His ministry has sent Bibles and other Christian books translated into Arabic to Darfur.

LEE: Most all the people that we were working with and through have left Darfur. The Christian brothers that we were working with, either to Chad or South Sudan or even here in Uganda…

The Darfur region is not new to conflict.

Ethnic violence that began in 2003 targeted non-Arabs in Darfur. As many as 300,000 people died, as reports of assaults also emerged.

In this month’s fighting, Salah Tour from the Sudanese Doctors’ Union, said the RSF and their militias targeted mostly non-Arab ethnic Masalit people.

Eric Reeves has worked as a Sudan analyst for more than two decades. Reeves says the genocide never ended after 2003, but sees additional motives.

REEVES: Finally it comes down to loot. There is no political ideology. There is no governing principle. There is no religious justification. There is just greed.

Across Sudan, half of the country’s population now needs humanitarian aid. The World Health Organization estimates that 70 percent of Sudanese hospitals are no longer operational. And in Chad, the World Food Program has warned it could end its food aid in January, as it faces a shortage of funds.

In Sudan, the violence has made aid delivery difficult and almost impossible in some areas. In West Darfur, al-Fasher is the last standing major capital city.

Here’s Reeves.

REEVES: But Al-Fasher is the most important city. It's right on the route from Port Sudan. It has the best airport in Darfur. It would be a logical place to begin humanitarian operations but that simply can't happen as long as violence is extreme as it is.

In neighboring Uganda, Lee says many of the Christians who fled the Darfur region have continued to serve in different refugee camps they moved to.

LEE: Our brothers are, they, they humble me so much. They're just on fire. They said to God, the war is not going to stop us from preaching the gospel. And so they're going into these camps, these North Sudanese brothers, and sharing the gospel and getting Bibles there.

Luka is still in Egypt, waiting to replace his documents to return to Sweden.

But he sees the local church community as perfectly stationed to assist in the absence of sufficient foreign aid. He has partnered with groups like Ananias House and is now brainstorming ways to gather a medical team and some medications back into Sudan.

LUKA: So I think this is what one of the missions of Christians to serve people when they are suffering, we have to be beside them. This is what Jesus was doing. so this is what is motivating me to go back.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Onize Ohikere.

SOUND: [Baby's heartbeat on ultrasound]

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Well Myrna, I know it’s been a few decades, but I think we both still recognize that sound

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Unforgettable. Baby’s heartbeat from inside his or her mama’s womb.

REICHARD: In this case times two!

Kelsey Hatcher of Alabama is having twins. Why is that a big deal? Well, Kelsey is one in 2000 women born with a double uterus, two functioning uteri, and she has a baby in each of them. And the babies are right on track, due Christmas Day!

And get this: Kelsey and her husband Caleb have three older children. So when their twin girls are born, they’ll have five under the age of eight!

Mom Kelsey told NBC:

KELSEY: We’re grateful for the blessings for sure, but this will definitely be the end.

BROWN: Famous last words!

REICHARD: It’s The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Thursday, November 30th. We thank you for starting your day with WORLD Radio. Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: medicine for migrants.

The American medical system can be difficult to navigate. From referrals, to appointments, to billing, it can get complicated—even if you’ve always lived here.

REICHARD: For immigrants and refugees, it can be even more daunting. WORLD's Lindsay Wolfgang Mast tells us about a group of doctors who are working to change that in one town in Georgia.

ROBBIE CONTINO: I’m Dr. Contino.

LINDSAY MAST, REPORTER: When Dr. Robbie Contino knocks on the door and heads into an exam room at the medical clinic where he works, he can usually count on a couple of things: Whoever’s inside needs his help, and they probably don’t speak much, if any, English.

Welcome to Clarkston, Georgia. Population 14,000. A one-point-eight square mile town just outside Atlanta that’s been called “the Ellis Island of the South.” Half its population is foreign born—many of them refugees, having left their homes during wars and political unrest.

CONTINO: Kurdish, Kuku…

Nepali, Khem Rwanda, Dari, Bengali…

CONTINO: Japanese, Ynoor, Karen, Burmese, Chinese…

That’s just a smattering of the 42 languages translated during appointments here at Ethnē Health.

It’s a faith-based community clinic, caring for the physical and mental health of patients from Clarkston’s widely differing cultures, backgrounds, and income levels. Dr. Contino is one of the founders.

Almost a decade ago, he and three friends were all medical students in Memphis. They lived and worked among under-served people. And they felt led to continue that. But where? They prayed—a lot. Should they go to California? Baltimore? Then they found Clarkston: a hub of refugee resettlement for decades. It had agencies to help with housing and jobs…but healthcare? Not as much.

Dr. Contino says people here often arrive with little by way of material goods, but quite a bit of physical and mental illness.

CONTINO: Many of the people in our community have been through a refugee experience and experience such loss and trauma, often having to be forced to leave their countries, most of the time because of violence.

Ethnē opened in 2018, operating out of a converted two-room house for three half-days a week—a medical startup with multiple challenges.

All that translating? It takes time. So does explaining medical bills, finding referrals, going over test results, building trust.

Patients pay what they can. Ethne takes insurance, but those without get care too— thanks to donors and supporters.

Ethnē employees Ta and Htoo both spent time in a Burmese refugee camp in Thailand. They demonstrate what a patient visit might sound like in Karen.

KAREN TRANSLATION: Do you have pain anywhere else?


It’s tedious—but it helps patients feel comfortable and informed about what’s happening.


Mounira Teman escaped Sudan’s civil war with her husband in 2002. Today, she’s Ethnē’s lead medical assistant. But back then, as a new wife, she only knew Arabic. When she went to a clinic, she was too embarrassed to talk about pregnancy symptoms with her male translator.

MOUNIRA TEMAN: When I got pregnant with my first baby, she was premature. But, because I didn't know how to tell the doctor that I was pregnant. And they didn't do a test for me, for pregnancy test, that time they gave me medication.

Her experience highlights the importance of care that takes into account culture and language. With no knowledge of the pregnancy, the other doctor prescribed a young, pregnant Teman medication.

TEMAN: And it was very difficult pregnancy.

After Ethnē launched in 2018, word got around. The clinic has outgrown two locations in five years. Since 2022, a new office—with room to grow—houses the medical team’s 39 employees.


Last month, Ethnē opened up a brand-new dental practice in their old space across the street. There was no real budget for it. The X-ray machine? Gifted from two local dentists. The three dental chairs? Bought at a discount from a dentist doing an upgrade.

Dr. Eunice Chay chalks all that up to God’s providence. Chay is Ethnē’s dental director. She’s a child of immigrants herself—her parents moved to the U-S in the 70s. She says she sees a new opportunity here to show patients dignified dental care.

DR. EUNICE CHAY: In dental we deal with loud sounds, bright lights, sharp objects in the mouth and small quarters.

That can be difficult for someone with trauma in their background, or someone who has never seen a dentist. When Chay treats someone brand new to dental care, she knows she has to explain things carefully, like the suction tool. She says it’s like a gentle vacuum cleaner in the mouth.

Dr Chay: Okay I’m gonna put it in your mouth, just close.


Of course, with most patients all that would be explained through translation.


Back at the medical clinic, Mounira Teman says Ethnē’s translation and trust building helped save her life.

She contrasts her first pregnancy with what she went through in 2021: A breast cancer diagnosis, after describing a lump to one of Ethnē’s doctors. Had that happened as a new immigrant, too embarrassed to talk to a male translator, she wonders if she would’ve lived. But she did. Tears slip down her face as she recounts Ethne staff caring for her family while she underwent chemotherapy. Doctor Contino even knocked on her door, bearing food he made himself.

To her, it shows humility, extreme humility—that doctors like Contino and the other founders would give up money and prestige…to extend the love of God to patients, employees and community in a way that can break down any language barrier.

TEMAN: When you pray “your kingdom come, on earth as in heaven” I see that Clarkston have a small heaven here, that God’s kingdom is here, just for me. I always thank God that I found this place.

For WORLD, I’m Lindsay Wolfgang Mast in Clarkston, Georgia.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Thursday, November 30th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myra Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Up next: President Biden’s poll numbers are slipping, and WORLD commentator Cal Thomas says there’s a reason for that.

CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: “You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.” That statement is often credited to Abraham Lincoln back in the 1800s. But it could be more relevant for the 2024 presidential election. A poll earlier this month by The New York Times and Siena College shows President Biden leaking support from his base of Black, Hispanic, and especially young voters. Other polls show former President Trump ahead of Biden in five of six key battleground states. Politico reported last week that “surveys have shown Trump ahead by 8 points in Arizona and 5 points up in Michigan.”

Another poll gives an important reason behind this leakage.

An ABC News/Ipsos survey finds that more than 75 percent of Americans believe “the country is headed in the wrong direction.” Only 23 percent think we’re “headed in the right direction.” One wonders where that 23 percent are getting their information. Don’t they see higher prices for gas, food, and mortgage rates since Biden took office? Or like some Trump supporters, are they wedded to him as one might be wedded to a cult leader about whom no negative facts will be believed?

Even worse for Democrats is the issue of which party can better handle the economy, nearly always the top issue in any presidential election. Thirty-five percent said Republicans would do a better job with only 25 percent saying the same about Democrats.

The Biden administration is defaulting to the usual position when things look bad. They claim their message isn’t getting through and that the full impact of their policies is not being felt by average Americans. Yes they are, and a majority don’t like them.

President George H.W. Bush was mocked for not understanding the purpose of bar codes on grocery products. The media and Democrats claimed it proved how out of touch he was with average people. The same can be said of the current administration. Those at the highest levels ride in government cars, don’t have to pay for fuel and can eat at the White House Mess for lower costs than at most Washington restaurants. No wonder so many are out of touch with average people.

Another poll should concern Democrats, given the administration’s lack of motivation to curtail the flood of migrants into the country, including possible terrorists. The Center Square Voters’ Voice Poll included “2,500 registered voters, including 1,000 registered Democrats, 1,000 registered Republicans, and 500 independents.” When pollsters asked about the situation at the U.S. border, “Eighty-two percent responded that they are concerned, with 47 percent saying they are very concerned and an additional 35 percent saying they are somewhat concerned. Just 13 percent said they are not concerned at all.”

Democrats may be hoping that Donald Trump’s legal problems will tank his re-election prospects, but that ignores the perception among a majority of voters – including Democrats – that Biden is weak and too old for a second term.

In next year’s election, they won’t be able to fool most voters as they did in 2020 when Biden claimed to be a “uniter.”

I’m Cal Thomas.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Tomorrow: Cancel culture comes for Holocaust victim Anne Frank. We’ll talk about it with John Stonestreet on Culture Friday. And, a Christian sci-fi movie inspired by the life of Job from the Bible. That and more tomorrow.

I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Mryna Brown.

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