The World and Everything in It: November 29, 2023

PREROLL: The World and Everything in It is made possible by listeners like us. Hello. My name is Dr. Dan Bragg. I'm a Christian school administrator at Calvary Christian School in Belle Fountain, Ohio. Thankful to be a part of a ministry that teaches and lives out the mission to train and disciple students.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Good morning! The governors of California and Florida are set to debate Red State policies and Blue State policies. We have a preview of tomorrow night’s Newsom-DeSantis matchup.

NICK EICHER, HOST: We’ll talk with political experts from both states today on Washington Wednesday. Also today, WORLD Tour. And we’ll meet a group of Texas men who traveled to a war zone to help the needy.

AUDIO: They would respond “Oh, you're Christian? And you’re volunteers? You volunteered to come over here during a war?”

And WORLD commentator Janie B. Cheaney on the nostalgic comfort of train rides.

BUTLER: It’s Wednesday, November 29th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Paul Butler.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

BUTLER: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Hamas hostages, cease-fire » As Hamas sets more hostages free under the terms of a temporary cease-fire with Israel, families continue to wait and pray.

Yifat Zailer has multiple family members being held by the terror group, including a 10-month-old boy.

ZAILER: It’s crazy just thinking about it. We are waiting hopelessly, trying to remain positive. Every day counts for that baby.

Israel said Tuesday night that 12 more hostages were released as a fragile truce held for a fifth day.

Hamas has now released about a third of the roughly 240 people it abducted when it attacked Israel on October 7th. Israel has released about 150 Palestinian prisoners in exchange.

Gaza » Meantime, more humanitarian supplies are flowing into Gaza amid the cease-fire. A U.S. military cargo plane carrying food and medical supplies bound for Gaza landed in Egypt on Tuesday, the first of three such flights.

But fuel and other supplies have also been trucked into the Gaza Strip. And some U.S. lawmakers say they’re concerned, including Republican Sen. Bill Hagerty.

HAGERTY: We’re funding both sides of the war. I had Sec. Blinken in front of me just a few weeks ago, and I asked him point blank, “Can you assure me that the humanitarian aid that we’ve sent to Hamas has not been used as weapons to come back to Israel?” He couldn’t do that.

The Biden administration concedes legitimate concerns that Hamas might steal some of the aid.

White House pressures Israel to protect civilians » Whenever the cease-fire ends, Israel has vowed to resume its mission to eradicate Hamas. And the Biden administration is reportedly pressuring Israel to work harder to protect civilians in Gaza when it resumes its ground offensive.

The Associated Press, citing a senior U.S. official, said the White House has told Israel that it must work to avoid “significant further displacement” of civilians and mass casualties.

Ukraine / Finland closes border w/ Russia » Finland is completely sealing off its border with Russia, as it accuses Moscow of waging “hybrid warfare” against the newest member of the NATO alliance. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin explains.

KRISTEN FLAVIN: The Finnish government had already shut down seven of its eight checkpoints along the Russian border. And now it’s closing the last of those crossings.

That’s in response to a surge of migrants from Middle Eastern and African countries entering Finland through Russia.

Finnish officials say they have proof that Russia is helping migrants without proper documentation to reach the border zone.

They called it an attempt to undermine Finland’s national security.

For WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

Emory / Carter ceremony » Former President Jimmy Carter made a rare public appearance Tuesday, attending a tribute service for his late wife and former first lady Rosalynn Carter.

The service at Atlanta's Emory University featured readings of Mrs. Carter’s favorite scriptures and arrangements of her favorite songs.

AUDIO: [“Blessed Assurance” sung by choir]

Family and friends shared memories of Mrs. Carter, including James Carter the Third:

James Carter: In the White House, Mom asked Dad so many questions that he finally said that she should attend cabinet meetings. So she did. And caught a lot of flack for that.

President Biden and first lady Jill Biden were in attendance along with every living former first lady.

Today Mrs. Carter’s remains will be interred at the Carter family home following a private funeral service.

Tunnel rescues » A group of 41 construction workers in mountainous northern India are free after being trapped in a tunnel for more than two weeks. WORLD’s Josh Schumacher has more.

JOSH SCHUMACHER: The men were working on the tunnel as part of a highway project when an avalanche sealed off the exit.

Rescue workers drilled through the final layers of debris and pulled the men out one at a time through a passage made of welded pipes.

DHAMI: [Speaking Hindi]

The regional chief minister says the workers will return home after being treated at a nearby hospital.

The men received food, water, and oxygen through a pipe while they were trapped.

For WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: what to expect from DeSantis versus Newsom on Washington Wednesday. Plus, World Tour.

This is The World and Everything in It.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: It’s Wednesday, November 29th, 2023. Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Paul Butler.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. It’s Washington Wednesday.

Last week, the Commission on Presidential Debates announced the dates and locations of four general election debates to take place in 2024. As things stand now, the frontrunners in both parties, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, have indicated that they will not participate if nominated next Spring.

BUTLER: Meanwhile, another contest has been taking shape: the rivalry between two state governors, Ron DeSantis of Florida and Gavin Newsom of California.

This Thursday evening at 9:30pm Eastern Time, Newsom and DeSantis will meet in Alpharetta, Georgia for a 90-minute debate moderated by Sean Hannity of FOX News.

The governors are expected to talk about the impact and influence of their state policies on issues like the economy, immigration, and education.

EICHER: Joining us to preview the debate are professors Dario Moreno and David McCuan. Mr. Moreno teaches political science and international relations at Florida International University. Mr. McCaun teaches American politics from Sonoma State University in California. Gentlemen, thank you for joining us.

DAVID McCUAN, GUEST: Thank you for having us.

BUTLER: Well, let's start by getting to know the voting makeup of each of the states. This has been advertised as a showdown between red and blue states. So what distinguishes Florida from California in terms of voting blocks and policies? And Mr. McCuan, let's start with you.

McCUAN: Well, I mean, if you look at California and what's happened, say, since Arnold Schwarzenegger came into office 2003 in the recall, right, so since the Terminator came on, California has become much more democratic. It's a deeply blue state. But it's also has areas of purple. That would be in the Central Valley, and then areas, counties that voted for Donald Trump, and areas where we see Republican lawmakers. So it's a diverse state. It's a huge state, obviously, the economic conditions of the state, fifth largest economy in the world, that matters, but the type of California voter, while democratic and blue is also less wed to party. They're searching around. They're kind of rootless at some level. And because of that, party discipline is not as rigorous. I'll give you an example. California voters like to vote early and often on ballot measure a ballot measure questions similar to what we see in Florida, but with a lot more activism in California. But those voters like to be asked to dance and then they like to tell their potential partner no. And they expect to be asked to dance. And so one thing to watch here over the next year or so, is as Gavin Newsom kind of develops his national kind of bona fides and develops moving forward with his political career, does he move to the ballot? And what does that ballot look like in next November's election?

BUTLER: Well, that’s California. Mr. Moreno, what about Florida?

MORENO: Well, Florida used to be the toss-up state, famously decided the presidency in 2000 by 532 votes. But since Obama—which Florida voted twice for Obama—Florida has been marching more and more in the red column. Part of this is the Florida Hispanic community, which is about 25% of the population, 20% of the voters, is far more conservative than in California. It's heavily Cuban American, especially Miami. A lot of people fleeing communism, progressive and socialist regimes in Latin America. So being a Democratic socialist in Miami is not a very good thing. 

Also, what you have in Florida is an influx of blue state people come into Florida because of lower taxes, lower housing cost, and more job opportunities. So these are slowly shifting the demography of Florida, more and more conservative. Now, the scenes can change quite quickly. And in Florida, politics happens in rapid changes. So what was gospel truth four years ago, it's not going to be gospel truth four years from now. So this debate is not really about this year. It's about four years from now. This debate is about who's going to be the standard bearer of social conservatives, who's going to be the standard bearer of social liberals. And look, Newsom and DeSantis were smart enough to realize that they need each other and they need this debate because it keeps them both very relevant.

EICHER: Good point about that, that their interests are aligned in one sense. But they’re very different in another sense where the issues are concerned. And I’d like to begin with Gavin Newsom. So this is for Mr. McCuan, do you think Newsom will go to social issues? Will he emphasize abortion and things like transgender rights?

McCUAN: Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating. And here's why. Gavin Newsom has this portrayal nationally as a guy who's like left of center and like this crazy San Francisco liberal, this this this, you know, Pelosi West Coast kind of crazy. And when you look at the cultural politics and what is going on across the country, this is a fray that he's happily willing to enter. So yes, the politics of abortion and reproductive rights will be front and center. But what will temper some of his remarks are bills he vetoed and how he kind of repositioned himself over the last couple of months, the last quarter of the year, if you will, about being a parent. He's putting forward an idea that he's a new type of Democrat, a sensible Democrat, who, as a parent and a parent of young children, is concerned about what's going on and the choices that are made. So that allows him to pivot away from reproductive politics to then talk about schools and school boards to talk about transgender and where you're going to the bathroom or not going to the bathroom, or what sport you're participating in, to go right into the wheelhouse of those things as a concerned parent to moderate that image of the crazy San Francisco liberal, if you will, because that's the pivot they're trying to make.

They’re trying to both join their electoral image, if you will, their electoral politics. He’s got the best people and electoral politics in the country that work for him. And he's trying to temper that or marry that with what he does on the governing side, and how he actually runs the government. That's going to be a difficult thing on issues of homelessness on the visuals of California. Governor DeSantis will certainly talk about that and raise that issue; that allows him to pivot to immigration and the border. But it also allows Governor Newsom to really kind of push forward and talk about the importance of moderation and how he does that will allow him to walk away from kind of some of those progressive elements that they're worried kind of temper their cause. And really, he's not officially running for president until he's chewing on a fried pork chop in Iowa, but as they're moving to that place, until they get to that place, they're going to want to kind of moderate his image somewhat. So pay attention to that during the debate that we're going to see tomorrow.

BUTLER: And Mr. Moreno, what do you expect?

MORENO: Well, I expect DeSantis to defend his social record, his battle with woke corporatism, the "house of the mouse." He will put up his record of defending what he calls the Free State of Florida. So you'll have that conservatism. But I think that he's also going to talk about the Florida economy. Why are people flocking to Florida? Why is Florida being successful when other states aren't? What job creation, cost of living, inflation, these kinds of kitchen table issues he needs to bring out? He needs to talk about his economic successes, his record as Florida Governor. 

Look, I think the mistake that DeSantis made was he won election in 2018, defeating the darling of the Republican Party establishment based solely on Donald Trump's endorsement. He barely won that election, just by 30,000 votes. Two years ago, he won in a 60-40 landslide. And then to run against Donald Trump, when you were selling yourself as Trump’s heir, I think was a mistake. So I think for him, it's an opportunity to sort of recapture this as Trump's successor.

EICHER: Mr. McCuan, do you think that Newsom has anything to lose?

McCUAN: What he has to lose is the degree to which he wants to reinvent his image or paint a different picture of himself, not as that crazy wide eyed San Francisco liberal, but as someone who is more amenable to that median voter, that independent voter and not as offensive to the purple people, as it were, that's that's going to be their goal. But they're also willing to go into the belly of the beast, they're willing to go on Fox and challenge Governor DeSantis and go right in his wheelhouse on several issues. It'll be fascinating to watch, a heck of a lot more interesting to what's happening the following week with the Republican candidates in Alabama.

EICHER: And then Mr. Moreno, what about Ron DeSantis, anything to lose?

MORENO: Absolutely nothing. There's no such thing as bad publicity. I think this is a brilliant move by both men. I think Hannity was great at grabbing it. It begins to set the tone into 2028. And look, I think that it's going to be interesting to see if Newsom can appear as anything but a California liberal, right? And it's gonna be interesting if DeSantis can portray himself more moderate. I think in contrast to Newsom, I don't think you're gonna see any moderation on the part of DeSantis.

BUTLER: Well, David McCuan is a professor at Sonoma State University. And Dario Moreno is an associate professor at Florida International University. Gentlemen, thank you both for your time.

MORENO: Thanks for having us.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Next up on The World and Everything in It: WORLD Tour with our reporter in Africa, Onize Ohikere.

ONIZE OHIKERE, REPORTER: Sierra Leone unrest — We start today in Sierra Leone where authorities have tried to calm the public after attacks on the military’s largest barracks and detention centers on Sunday.

OFFICIAL: The public is assured that the government and our state security forces are in control of the situation.

Gunshots rang out across the capital of Freetown as gunmen targeted the military barracks.

Information Minister Chernor Bah said more attackers also hit several detention centers—including the Pademba Road Prisons with more than 2,000 inmates. Bah said the assailants abducted several of the prisoners while others ran free.

Authorities said at least 19 people died, including 13 soldiers and one police officer.

Sierra Leone’s President Julius Maada Bio eased a nationwide lockdown to a nighttime curfew.

BIO: Most of the leaders have been arrested. Security operations and investigations are ongoing. We will ensure that those responsible are held accountable through due process.

The West African country has faced some political uncertainty since June. That’s when Bio won a second term in office by narrowly avoiding a runoff.

Back in August, authorities detained several soldiers accused of plotting a coup. Since 2020, six countries across West and Central Africa have faced military takeovers.

SOUND: [Cheering]

DRC campaign — Over in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, cheering supporters joined a political rally in the eastern city of Bukavu.

Dr. Denis Mukwege, a Nobel-winning gynecologist, declared he would run for the presidency last month.

He founded the Panzi Hospital in the conflict-hit eastern region to care for rape victims in the ongoing fighting.

Mukwege promised to tackle corruption and conflict, if elected into office.

MUKWEGE: [Speaking Swahili]

He says here that the Congolese have an obligation to develop their nation, gifted to them by God.

Incumbent President Felix Tshisekedi is also seeking re-election. The general vote is slated for next month.

SOUND: [Street noise]

China visa-free travel — Next, to China, where a trial visa-free program for five European countries and Malaysia is set to start on Friday.

Citizens from France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain, and Malaysia can visit China for 15 days with no visa requirement.

MAO: [Speaking Mandarin]

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning says here the pilot program will last for a year.

China is trying to return its international travel numbers to pre-pandemic levels after strict COVID-19 measures.

SOUND: [Tree felling]

Norway Christmas tree — We wrap up in a Norwegian forest where a crowd gathered to watch the felling of a 70-year-old spruce tree.

SOUND: [Clapping]

Viewers applauded as workers felled the 62-foot tree and lifted it using a hydraulic crane.

The tree is headed for London’s Trafalgar Square, continuing a tradition that began more than seven decades ago. Norway sends the spruce as a token for Britain’s support during World War II.

Here’s Oslo Mayor Anne Lindboe.

LINDBOE: We now live in these really really dark times and the Christmas tree symbolizes peace, standing together, friendship between cities and I’m really looking forward to meeting the people in London to stand together around the Christmas tree and see the lights.

London will set up the tree at an official lights ceremony on December 7.

AUDIO: [Children singing Jingle Bells]

That’s it for today’s WORLD Tour. Reporting for WORLD, I’m Onize Ohikere in Abuja, Nigeria.

NICK EICHER, HOST: A cautionary tale out of Ann Arbor, Michigan: A 12-year-old boy found a truck with a forklift, unlocked, the key inside. One guess what happened next: Fired it up, took it for a joyride.

Police were called.

POLICE: North bound Nixon, coming up towards Traver. Eighteen miles an hour.

I think you could make out the important part: 18 miles per hour, and the slow-speed chase was on. Stop lights, ignored. Same with the curb, drove right over it.

POLICE: Looks like he’s gonna possibly ditch it. He’s on the sidewalk now.

Then he started hitting parked cars, and the police had had it.

POLICE: Pull over! Pull over now!

This whole thing took an hour, if you can believe it, before he was finally stopped. Hard to believe nobody was injured. 

But remember this: Lock it, and pocket the keys.

It’s The World and Everything in It.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Today is Wednesday, November 29th. This is WORLD Radio. Thanks for listening! Good morning. I’m Paul Butler.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: caring for bodies and souls in Israel. After Hamas attacked on October 7th, Israel faced an additional effect that didn’t make much news: food became scarce and supply chains couldn’t keep up.

BUTLER: But a U.S.-based ministry is working to help meet the demand. Texas Baptist Men has been training Kosher cooks in Israel for years. And now, their volunteers are ready for a war zone.

WORLD Radio Reporting Producer Mary Muncy has the story.

SOUND: [Sound from hospital]

MARY MUNCY, REPORTER: In late October, Doug Hall is unloading boxes full of falafel sandwiches, setting them out on a table draped with Israeli flags.

He was outside an ER in Israel—about ten miles from Gaza.

It was hot. Hall and another volunteer were outside a clean, underground entrance. Ambulances went in and out every few minutes.

HALL: We would tell them that we were with TBM. And that didn't really mean a lot.

So Hall told them TBM—or Texas Baptist Men—is a Christian volunteer organization that feeds people.

HALL: And I think many times that's when the light bulb went off, you know. They would respond “Oh, you're Christian? And you’re volunteers? You volunteered to come over here during a war?”

Hall started setting out 800 “falafel hoagies” for doctors, soldiers, or anyone else who needed them.

HALL: We'd have a brief visit with them and tell them thank you for serving and and have brief interactions with them.

Six or eight Israeli women also stood by the table. They are there with a different volunteer organization, serving pastries and coffee.

All the women either had children or grandchildren serving in the Israel Defense Forces.

HALL: One of which had three children serving in the military.

One of her sons was home when the fighting started and went out to help the wounded.

HALL: She told us that he had to return to her apartment two different times to change out of his uniform and to put on a new uniform because it was so bloody.

Hall met those ladies during his first week in Israel in late October. He spent two weeks there, making and distributing food to people who needed it. Everyone he met had a connection to the conflict in Gaza. People didn’t smile much. It seemed like there was a weight in the air. But he says those hot meals were a bright spot, something to help them hold up under that weight.

That’s why TBM sent the first team in early October, just after Hamas attacked on October 7th.

HALL: The day the war broke out, I really felt a pull to be involved in the relief of that somehow.

TBM’s disaster relief ministry started back in the 60s. A big part of its mission is mass feeding and they’ve gotten really good at it.

SOUND: [Food prep]

Hall was part of the second team to arrive in Israel.

They have enough room on their base for 20 people sleeping in small buildings around a small grassy area. Their mobile kitchens are nearby where those 20 people, plus a few Israeli volunteers, make two to three thousand meals a day.

HALL: We get up about 5:30, 5:45 we have a devotion at six. And then after that, we kind of line out the day. We figure out how many meals we needed to prepare.

Their generators kicked on around 6:45 and then they started food prep. By 1:30 or 2, they were ready to deliver falafel sandwiches.

They took the meals to places like hospitals and churches for distribution. But the journey often had unexpected stops.

SOUND: [Rocket warning]

HALL: If there is a rocket launched into Israeli air airspace, the radio is interrupted kind of like we have weather alerts here. They have rocket alerts. So our guides would listen to that and there were several times that we had to pull off the road.

Actually, it was a pretty regular occurrence.

HALL: We were instructed early on to lay down. But after we did that one or two times, and we watched cars going by and with their phones out the window, filming the crazy Americans, we-we bowed to peer pressure.

They still stopped and got out of the van, just in case it was targeted, but often, locals just kept driving past them.

HALL: It's just another day in the life of them. You know, that's that that was the great juxtaposition of their reality.

Hall says none of the volunteers felt like they were ever in imminent danger, but they also never felt completely safe either.

HALL: There's a weight to everywhere we went. So that was part of that even when we were in safe places. You just knew you were not completely, 100 percent safe all the time.

But that doesn’t mean there wasn’t joy.

HALL: We had a break one afternoon and went out for a walk in Jerusalem.

The team stopped at a gelato shop and sat down. Just behind them, a group of five or six Israeli people came in—several wearing machine guns.

AUDIO: [Singing “Happy Birthday” in Hebrew]

One of them went and bought a gelato cake and they started a birthday party for a seven-year-old boy.

HALL: They all grabbed a chair and raised him up in the air and they were singing happy birthday to him in Hebrew. And it was just such a paradox of happiness and joy, and in the middle of the situation, they're wearing machine guns.

The party ended, and the team left, but the image stayed with them.

SOUND: [Making sandwiches]

Back at the base, the generators were a constant as they prepared the food and handed it out.

While Hall was there, he prepared tens of thousands of sandwiches and served hundreds of people.

But he remembers one soldier in particular. The man came up to the table at their base and the volunteers gave him two sandwiches. He started to walk away.

HALL: And he turned around, and walked back, stopped everyone and said, Hey, I just want to tell you guys something. So we all stopped what we were doing, turned and looked at him. And he said, I want to say thank you, on behalf of all of us, you give us strength to do our mission.

Hall says that strength isn’t just physical, it’s brightening their day in a small way. A little glimpse of hope.

HALL: Our job is there to spread the joy of Jesus while we're there. So that was what we were doing.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Mary Muncy.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Wednesday, November 29th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Nick Eicher.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler. Up next, WORLD commentator Janie B. Cheaney on the long-standing American romance of life on the rails.

JANIE B. CHEANEY, COMMENTARY: “There Is No Good Way to Travel Anywhere in America.” That’s the title of an article on The Atlantic’s website. It displays a picture of railroad tracks fading into a shroud of fog, so I had to click on it. The author claims that “driving is dangerous, renting a car is a nightmare, and I don’t need to tell you about airplanes.” What’s left? A mode of transportation that still appeals, even if the great days of Pullman porters and dining-car china are not even a distant memory for most of us. That must be why Amtrak, created by Congress in 1971, keeps limping along despite losing buckets of money for decades.

I tell people Amtrak is a good option if you don’t care when you leave or when you arrive. Train delays are notorious because, after all, you can’t just go around mishaps on the track. That heart-sinking feeling you get on an interstate when you encounter an “Expect Delays” sign is almost certain on a train trip—without the benefit of a sign. I gave up on routing a trip from the Midwest to Pennsylvania because the system is divided into sections and you have to purchase a ticket for each one.

We should all probably just give up on Amtrak, as well as grandiose plans for high-speed rail, and let the market work. And yet something in the American heart still thrums with the rhythm of the rails. When Union Pacific’s Big Boy, the largest steam locomotive ever built, passed through a nearby town on one of its cross-country excursions, I was amazed at how many people turned out to see it go by. Some may remember that the 150th anniversary of the transcontinental railroad in 2019 was commemorated with stamps of golden spikes and two locomotives. (I still have some.) And of course, legendary passenger trains like the 20th Century Limited and the Super Chief roar through classic movies and collective memory.

My husband and I took our own transcontinental trip in 1975, from Denver to Trenton, New Jersey. Those were early days on Amtrak: the cars were new, the ride was incredibly smooth and fast, and the dining car sported silver flatware. I still remember some of the people we were seated with during meals: a young man who politely explained why he was a vegetarian, two overdressed women sharing details of the men they’d dated. The trip took about twenty hours including a twitchy night on seats that didn’t recline enough, and yes, there were unexplained delays of an hour or more. But we could move from car to car and talk to people without having to lean into their personal space. We could watch America roll by from the observation dome. We saw broad rivers and endless plains, suburban backyards and city dumps.

It's still true: train travel can let you get acquainted with your country, from the grand to the mundane. Taking your time is a feature not a bug. And that might be the real appeal, after all.

I’m Janie B. Cheaney.

NICK EICHER, HOST: 

Tomorrow: Christians in Silicon Valley have a vision for bringing AI into the church, but what are the technological and theological boundaries? And, medical care for immigrants in a Georgia town known as “the Ellis Island of the South.” That and more tomorrow.

I’m Nick Eicher.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler.

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