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The beginning of Donald Trump’s a legal calendar going into election season; a doctrinal dispute within the Christian and Missionary Alliance; and a day in the life of an equine dentist. Plus, commentary from Daniel Darling and the Thursday morning news


Former President Donald Trump speaks to the media as he exits the New York Supreme Court. Associated Press/Photo by Yuki Iwamura

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MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning! A New York City fraud case trial against Donald Trump continues this week. Where does it fall in relation to upcoming criminal cases?

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: We’ll have a report.

Also, a Protestant denomination’s dispute over the ordination of women has resulted in some churches losing their buildings. Plus, a visit with a dental specialist.

MORGAN: And so, these teeth, when they start, when they start erupting, and they're growing, they're always growing.

And Commentator Daniel Darling on former Vice President Mike Pence’s decision to bow out of the presidential race.

BROWN: It’s Thursday, November 2nd. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

BUTLER: And I’m Paul Butler. Good morning!

BROWN: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.


KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Gaza evacuations » The White House says the U.S. government has taken the “first step” toward evacuating Americans from war-torn Gaza.

National Security Council spokesman John Kirby:

KIRBY: We do expect to be able to get all of our Americans out, but it will take a few days. It will take some time. 

His remarks came after some foreign nationals and wounded Palestinians were allowed to cross the border into Egypt on Wednesday.

Conditions are increasingly dire in Gaza, ground zero for the Israel-Hamas war.

State Department spokesman Matthew Miller said the United States will continue working to evacuate Americans and their families.

MILLER: We are going to give them specific instructions over the next few days about where to go, when to go, how they can get out.

Israel-Gaza » Meantime, Israeli forces have taken out another high-ranking Hamas commander as their assault continues in Gaza by land, sea, and air.

SOUND: [Gaza]

The Israeli Defense Forces — or IDF have killed Muhammad A'sar the head of the terrorist group’s anti-tank missile unit.

The IDF has created a special operation room to hunt down anyone who was involved in the October 7th massacre.

Mark Regev, a senior adviser to the Israeli prime minister said this won’t be a quick operation.

REGEV: We know this is going to take time. But the overall feeling that we have from our commanders on the ground is that we are going well.

An IDF spokesman says Israeli ground troops have advanced to “the gates of Gaza City.”

Congress aid » In Washington, lawmakers in the House are expected to vote today on a Republican bill to provide nearly $15 billion dollars in aid to Israel. WORLD’s Josh Schumacher has more.

JOSH SCHUMACHER: The House GOP plan would pay for that aid by trimming recently expanded IRS funding.

But Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer called that provision a “poison pill.”

After the Israel vote, House Speaker Mike Johnson reportedly plans to push legislation to pay for aid to Ukraine and U.S. border security.

The White House wants Congress to approve a single bill that would fund all of those needs, as well as aid to Gaza at a price tag of just over $100 billion dollars.

For WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.

Santos expulsion vote » Last night in the House, members shot down a resolution to expel embattled GOP Congressman George Santos.

AUDIO: On this vote, the yeas are 179. The nays are 213, with 19 recorded as present.

Santos has been indicted on nearly two dozen counts of federal corruption charges.

And fellow New York Republican Anthony D’Esposito was among those voting to oust him.

D’ESPOSITO: Mr. Santos is a stain on this institution and not fit to serve his constituents in the House of Representatives.

The 35-year-old Santos has admitted to lying about his resume during his campaign … but says he’s not guilty of any crime.

SANTOS: I must warn my colleagues that voting for expulsion at this point would circumvent the judicial system’s due process that I am entitled to.

And most Republicans and some Democrats said they could not vote to unseat a duly elected member before he’s had his day in court.

Federal Reserve » Federal Reserve Chairman Jay Powell says no more interest rate hikes for now.

POWELL - My colleagues and I are acutely aware that high inflation imposes significant hardship as it erodes purchasing power.

But he noted that inflation has slowed down this year. That saidPowell cautions that the war against spiraling prices is not over.

Annual inflation is still nearly double the Fed’s target of 2 percent. And more rate hikes may still be needed in the coming months to further slow it down.

Trump Jr testimony » Donald Trump Jr. took the witness stand in a Manhattan courtroom Wednesday in a civil case against the Trump Organization. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has more.

KRISTEN FLAVIN: Former President Trump’s oldest son is an executive vice president of the family business.

He told the court that he never worked on his father's financial statements, leaving that to outside accountants and the company's then-finance chief, Allen Weisselberg. Those documents are at the heart of the civil fraud trial that threatens the Trump real estate empire in New York.

State Attorney General Letitia James claims the company falsified numbers on business documents.

Donald Trump Jr, like his father and other defendants, denies any wrongdoing.

For WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

AI summit » In the UK, global business and government leaders have gathered north of London. The question on their minds … how best to guard against the potential dangers of artificial intelligence.

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak is hosting what is set to become an annual summit on AI safety.

SUNAK: We can't expect these companies to mark their own homework that has to be the responsibility of governments.

Tesla CEO Elon Musk says the goal is to build a framework for the role of governments in overseeing the technology.

MUSK: An independent referee that can observe what leading AI companies are doing, and at least sound the alarm if they, if they have concerns.

China, the U.S. and the European Union all signed a declaration this week agreeing to work together on AI safeguards.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: Donald Trump’s days in court. Plus, a trip to the equine dentist.

This is The World and Everything in It.


PAUL BUTLER, HOST: It’s Thursday the 2nd day of November, 2023. Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Paul Butler.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

Both 2024 Presidential front-runners are currently facing a catalog of misconduct allegations. This morning an update on Donald Trump’s legal calendar.

Since this Spring, the former president has been indicted on a total of 91 felony charges in four criminal cases. The trials in those cases are coming up soon, and several of them will coincide with state primary elections early next year.

BUTLER: Meanwhile, a trial is underway in a civil case in New York involving alleged business fraud. Trump has been at odds with the judge in that case, Arthur Engoron, who has issued several gag orders against the former president.

Joining us now to talk about these cases is WORLD’s Washington Bureau intern, Clara York.

BROWN: Clara, good morning.

CLARA YORK, REPORTER: Good morning! Thank you for having me.

BROWN: Well let’s start with a refresher on the cases. Where are those four criminal trials going to take place and when are they happening in relation to primary elections and caucuses?

YORK: Yeah, the first case is looming over Trump right now. It's set to be in Georgia, but there's no court date currently. Trump has been accused of racketeering for his actions and calling Georgia Secretary of State and asking him to find the number of votes needed to tip the scales in his favor. Then we have a case in Washington, D.C. set for March 4. That's over a federal election results, interference and charges relating to the U.S. Capitol riots on January 6, that is the day before Super Tuesday on March 5, when 15 states hold primary elections. So that's a pretty big deal when it comes to the election cycle. And then right on the heels of that we have the New York hush money case, which is set for March 25. Trump has been charged with falsifying business records over money paid to cover up extramarital affairs. And then finally we have the Florida classified documents case set to begin may 20, over alleged improper storage of classified documents at Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida.

BROWN: Well, the civil case concerning alleged fraud on financial statements is underway in New York City. How is the trial going for Trump?

YORK: Well, Judge Arthur Engoron issued a gag order to prevent Trump from intimidating or threatening his staff. And he issued that in response to a post from Trump calling the law clerk who sits to the right of the judge a partisan Democrat. And then Trump was fined $5,000.0 two weeks ago because the post went out in the campaign email and was left on the Trump website even after the gag order. But he got into hot water again after testifying last week, when he talked to reporters during a break. Audio here from C-SPAN.

TRUMP: The judge is a very partisan judge with a person who's very partisan sitting alongside him, perhaps even much more partisan than he is.

Judge Engoron interprets Trump's reference to a partisan person sitting next to the judge as another reference to the law clerk, although Trump claims he was talking about witness for the prosecution, Michael Cohen. Nonetheless, Trump was fined $10,000. Judge Engoron has threatened jail or contempt of court for further violations.

BROWN: Clara we've heard a lot recently about plea deals in Trump's Georgia trial. How many co-defendants have pleaded guilty?

YORK: Well, in the Georgia case, there are 19 co-defendants, including Trump, and four of them have entered plea agreements requiring them to testify truthfully in the trial, among other things. First, there was a bail bondsman, and the other three are attorneys, most recently, Attorney Jenna Ellis, who pleaded guilty last Tuesday to aiding and abetting false statements and writings in Georgia. And she said in a tearful statement that she relied on information from other lawyers and failed to verify things herself. Here's some audio from the Associated Press:

ELLIS: I believe in and I value election integrity. If I knew then what I know now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post election challenges.

YORK: And then two other former Trump attorneys Sidney Powell and Kenneth Chesbro pleaded guilty two weeks ago, they both will have to pay a monetary fine and write an apology letter to the state of Georgia, in addition to promising to testify.

BROWN: Any updates, Clara from the other cases?

YORK: Well, from the March 25 hush money case in New York and the May 20 classified documents case in Florida, we don't have a lot of updates. But for the D.C. case set for March 4, the former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows reportedly has immunity and has testified before the grand jury several times. Trump doesn't buy it.

TRUMP: I've spoken to Mark Meadows many many times over the years and he strongly believed the election was rigged.

But former New Jersey governor and prosecutor Chris Christie says Trump should take this development more seriously. Here he is on CNN last week.

CHRISTIE: And Mark Meadows was as you know, Wolf [Blitzer], Donald Trump's shadow the entire time he was Chief of Staff. He will know every conversation, every lie, every illegal action.

Trump's response to all five trials has been to maintain that he's innocent and to competently project that he's going to win. He's painted all charges as political theater.

TRUMP: There shouldn’t be a trial. There shouldn't be a trial. It’s called election interference. There should not be a trial.

BROWN: Alright, last question here. Clara. We mentioned earlier that Trump faces 91 felony charges across these cases. Now even if he gets acquitted on some of the charges, there is a chance he'll be found guilty and sentenced on some of them. What's the range of penalties we're talking about for potential sentencing?

YORK: Well, there's a really wide range of penalties and it's hard to predict where they may fall because judges have a lot of discretion in sentencing. For example, Politico estimated that for the New York hush money payments where Trump faces 34 counts of falsifying business records, that might be a maximum of four years in prison. But compare that to the Washington DC election case. If Trump were convicted of two counts of obstructing an official proceeding, that could be a maximum of 20 years in prison, and the maximum sentencing for that entire case alone would be 35 years. The thing is, most of these don't have mandatory sentencing and could be substituted with financial penalties. So at the end of the day, it's kind of like trying to do math on some kind of hypothetical calculator where every button represents several different numbers.

BROWN: That's not my kind of calculator, Clara. Clara York is an intern with WORLD’s Washington bureau. Thank you, Clara.

YORK: Absolutely. Thank you for having me.


PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: Disagreeing over church policy. Or is it doctrine?

Back in June, the evangelical denomination known as the Christian and Missionary Alliance voted to ordain female ministers and open up the titles of “pastor” and “reverend” to women.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Around two-thirds of delegates voted in favor of the change at the semi-annual national council in Spokane, Washington.

ALLIANCE COUNCIL CHAIR: The ayes have it, [Spontaneous applause] The motion is succeeded.

BUTLER: While the CMA retains titles of “elder” and “lead pastor” for men only, some member churches have decided to leave rather than accept the denomination’s decision. And that decision is costing some congregations more than just a name change.

BROWN: WORLD intern Caleb Welde brings us the story.

CALEB WELDE, INTERN: Alliance Bible Fellowship in Boone, North Carolina, was one of the first churches to leave the CMA in June. Lead Pastor Scott Andrews says the church’s elders disagreed with the denomination’s reasoning that a centrist stance would prove more effective in fulfilling the Great Commision.

ANDREWS: When they made this decision, all of a sudden, they're in a different stream within the pale of orthodoxy that we felt comfortable with. And we felt like it was an issue of biblical authority. We felt like it was bending to the whims of culture, if I can be frank.

As word spread of their departure from the CMA, pastors from across the country have called Andrews wondering what to do.

ANDREWS: 15 different states, multiple churches within those states. Some are, have already left, some are in discussions about leaving.

While the CMA allowed the Boone church to keep their buildings, other churches have lost their properties after deciding to leave.

In August, the congregation of Connection Point Church in Arizona voted 107 to 0 to dissociate from the CMA. Dave Hodgdon is lead pastor.

HODGDON: I think I was as shocked as anybody that it was a unanimous vote.

But the response from the district was quick.

HODGDON: We handed over the keys and there was a locksmith at the church changing all the locks right after church. I in fact, thought that was the new pastor. I asked one of the folks that was there from the district. I said, Hey, is this the new pastor? He goes, no that's a locksmith.

The Arizona congregation offered the district six hundred thousand dollars to stay on the property, but their request was denied. The congregation held services in the mountains the next Sunday.

HODGDON: 115 of us up there, sang our hearts out and and shared the Word and had a meal together.

Casey Gordon was the associate pastor at Connection Point.

GORDON: So we actually just put up a new fellowship hall. The building itself, by the time we were said and done, to finish work, new parking lot, we were in at around $800,000.

He says the congregation raised those funds with no outstanding liabilities.

The Christian and Missionary and Alliance handbook provides guidance for situations like this. It includes a “reversion clause” stating that church assets go to the denomination in the event of separation. However, if the dispute is due to doctrinal differences, the local church can appeal to keep their buildings and resources.

Terry Smith is the CMA’s vice president for Church Ministries, overseeing the denomination’s 25 districts. He says the recent vote is not doctrinal.

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SMITH: It's a disagreement over polity that may or may not have roots in doctrine, depending on how you interpret it. We have always had a big tent in the Alliance. So we're not Arminian. And we're not Calvinists, but we have both in the Alliance, allowing for folks to see scripture differently on those issues. And we'll all find out the truth someday when we stand before Jesus.

Smith describes the Alliance as a family and expressed sadness over the churches that have left.

SMITH: We pray nothing but God's best for them as they continue to faithfully preach the gospel in their community.

But pastors across the country are expressing frustration at the lack of direction from the national office. Scott Andrews in North Carolina again.

ANDREWS: They led in this decision, but now they're not leading in the fallout, because they're saying, well, we'll let the districts decide if they're going to apply the reversionary clause. Well, you led in this, lead in that too, and tell them to stop, stop seizing property, stop seizing, you're putting these churches, who are the same churches that they were six months ago, you're forcing them out.

Smith says the CMA’s statement of faith covers the clear doctrinal issues, and that this issue is not one of them. Pastor Gordon in Arizona sees things differently.

GORDON: Of course it's a doctrinal decision. I mean, let's not beat around the bush here. I mean, the language that was chosen to put it out there as polity was certainly chosen for this very reason. I think it holds you hostage. It holds your congregation hostage to what you clearly see as going against God's Word.

Paul Taylor pastored Discovery Alliance Church in Montana until early October when the Rocky Mountain District enforced the reversion clause there. The Montana church now meets in a borrowed building as Redeemer Bible Church.

TAYLOR: There are some pastors in our district that are weighing these things out. And when they see a church like us lose everything, it's like, well, I don't know if we want to do that.

Other churches have decided to stay in the denomination. Jeremy Muncy and Andrew Ballach are pastors at Westwood Alliance Church in Mansfield, Ohio. After the June vote, they formed the OneNineAlliance with six other pastors. Muncy says they’re seeking to connect like-minded churches and redirect the denomination back toward scriptural authority.

MUNCY: We truly believe that if you hold firm to the truth, and you're doing it in the power of the Holy Spirit, that ultimately that is going to protect the gospel. Doctrine matters. But at the same time, we don't want to decouple doctrine from the Great Commission, and from a love for Christ and a love to just obey Him.

Ballach says they’ve had several hundred pastors reach out to them, churches that are unhappy with the direction of the denomination, yet committed to working for change from within.

BALLACH: The Lord has placed us in this denomination, we see it as a stewardship, and we want to create space for as many people to stay in the family and continue the priorities of the Alliance for as long as we can.

For WORLD, I’m Caleb Welde, reporting from Boone, North Carolina.


PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Chick-fil-A regularly tops the charts for its speedy drive-thru service. But a couple in Birmingham Alabama recently set a slower-paced Chick-fil-A record. Audio here from WVTM 13:

AUDIO: James and Shirley Bailey, both 90 years old, enjoy their lunch, watch the highway 280 traffic pass by, and reminisce about their rich blessed lives.

Just an ordinary day, right? Well, Monday afternoon last week marked three years of the Baileys getting lunch at the restaurant every day of the week, except for Sundays of course.

AUDIO: They'll split a deluxe chicken sandwich and a waffle fry. They'll order their own diet cokes and they'll relive the gifts they gave to others.

The Baileys started coming during the Pandemic, and just kept coming. To celebrate the three-year milestone, the Greystone, Alabama Chick-fil-A staff gave the Baileys their meal on the house.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Well, after 70 years of marriage, I’d imagine it’s been a while since “kids eat free.”

BUTLER: It’s The World and Everything in It.


PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Today is Thursday, November 2nd. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Paul Butler.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: An unusual dental appointment.

You know the old saying, “Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth?” Well, today, we have a story about a man who spends his days looking in the mouths of other people’s horses.

BUTLER: WORLD correspondent Bonnie Pritchett has the story—straight from the horse’s mouth—in our occasional series called What Do People Do All Day

MORGAN: Wednesdays are always a crazy busy day here. [Horse whinnies] This is the front exam room. And then to the right of me now this is the new CT area…

BONNIE PRITCHETT, REPORTER: That’s Cody Morgan at the Brazos Valley Equine Hospital, in Navasota, Texas. The hospital is a barn. A really big barn with ultrasound machines, an operating room, a pharmacy…

MORGAN: Kind of like a general hospital.

Morgan serves as the hospital’s licensed equine dental provider. A horse dentist.

SOUND: [WHINNY AND FILING HORSE HOOVES]

At the far end of the barn, morning sunlight pours through an open bay door and silhouettes horses waiting to see the farrier. Two of them are also Morgan’s patients, Tex and Apple Jack.

MORGAN: So as soon as they get done getting trimmed, then they'll bring them over here and we'll take a look at them…

In the hospital library, there’s a collection of equine skeletons used for tutorials. Morgan grabs a skull off the shelf.

MORGAN: So, you have the horse's teeth and every horse can have up to 44 teeth…

They’re born without any.

MORGAN: And so, these teeth, when they start erupting, and they're growing, they're always growing.

That can be a problem.

MORGAN: But what happens is the mandible is a little bit narrower than the maxilla, which is the upper jaw.

Chewing keeps parts of the teeth ground down. But Morgan points to the teeth where the jaw lines don’t meet.

MORGAN: So, these continue to grow and they’ll get extremely sharp points. And, so, what these sharp points will do will start causing really bad cheek ulcers.

And while horses can’t say they have a toothache, they do give hints.

MORGAN: The biggest thing is dropping feed. That's a huge issue. Quitting is basically taking grass or hay and just balls up or wads up and falls out, because he has no teeth in the back to actually chew and grind that down to where he needs…

For rodeo horses, their riders can tell when there’s a problem.

MORGAN: So, they can call me and say, “Hey, this horse is really wanting to fight me going to the right.” And so, I know they're going to the right. I need to look on the left-hand side to see if there's something on that side for this causing some issues.

Preventing and treating those problems is part of Morgan’s job.

SOUND: [Horse clopping off a trailer, distant whinny]

Apple Jack is finished with the farrier, so, with freshly manicured hooves and a mild sedative, he’s now ready for his dental exam. His drooping chin rests inside a halter that is raised so Morgan, seated on a short stool, can peer up into his mouth.

A metal device called a speculum holds Apple Jack’s jaw open.

MORGAN: So, we’ll rinse his mouth out real quick… [Water rinse]

Morgan turns on his halogen head lamp and looks inside the gaping maw as Apple Jack tries dislodging the speculum with his 14-inch tongue.

MORGAN: So, As you can see throughout the mouth, starting to get a few little points, a few little cheek ulcers. And he's got a small little wave on the bottom…

A wave is uneven growth between the lower and upper teeth. Morgan will grind smooth the wave and sharp points.

MORGAN: Alright. Here we go… [SOUND OF GRINDER]

Morgan grinds the teeth on the lower left jaw, then releases the speculum to rest Apple Jack’s jaw before repeating the process throughout the mouth.

Apple Jack gets a clean bill of health.

Without basic, routine dental care, horses can develop a host of problems ranging from insufficient diet to poor performance in the rodeo arena.

MORGAN: So, we've had fractured teeth, like a slab fracture where it'll break up and slab off, it'll be completely broken in half. We've seen sticks stuck in between teeth up into the palate, major cuts along the tongue…

For the serious treatments, Morgan sees the horses at the hospital in case further care is needed. But, today, he has just one more appointment at the hospital before making his local rounds.

MORGAN: Yeah, that's basically what I do every day, just a yearly routine maintenance calls. It's a good feeling, able to help actually help two competitors at one time. You're helping the horse and the rider.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Bonnie Pritchett in Navasota, Texas.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is November 2nd. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler. Up next: a Christian politician bows out of the presidential race. WORLD Opinions commentator Daniel Darling on Vice President Mike Pence.

DANIEL DARLING, COMMENTATOR: On Oct. 28, former Vice President Mike Pence, announced his withdrawal from the 2024 race for the Republican nomination for president. In a speech to the Republican Jewish Coalition, he said, “The Bible tells us there’s a time for every purpose under heaven. … I came here to say it’s becoming clear to me, this is not my time. So after much prayer and deliberation, I have decided to suspend my campaign for president effective today.”

Born the son of a Korean war veteran and small business owner, Pence has had a long and distinguished career in public life that began with three failed runs for Congress in the 1980s. He then began hosting a political talk show that he labeled “Rush Limbaugh on decaf.” In his memoir, So Help Me God, he admits that he thought his political career was over. But it was just beginning.

In 2000, he won a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, representing Indiana’s second congressional district. He served six terms, becoming a leader of the conservative faction of the Republican majority. He was known for his commitment to fiscal restraint and the sanctity of human life. In 2012, he won the race to be Indiana’s 50th governor. His term was marked by fiscal discipline and education reform but also criticism from the left and the right of his handling of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

In 2016, an embattled Donald Trump chose Pence as his running mate, helping to solidify the evangelical vote. At times, he was criticized for his loyalty to President Trump, though in his memoir he admits to many private disagreements. As Trump’s presidency wore down, their alliance fractured. The vice president consistently refused appeals to overturn the election, reaffirming his commitment to the constitutional process of the transfer of power. For this, a man who was already derided for his Christian faith by the left was rewarded with disdain by many on the right.

Americans should appreciate the public service of Mike Pence. A man of deep and genuine faith in Christ, he was often mocked by the late-night hosts and media establishment for his piety. Even some Christians scoffed at his following of a modified “Billy Graham rule” which kept him from meeting with women alone. But in an era where both parties feature men and women of duplicitous moral character, perhaps we should not so easily dismiss a leader who unapologetically protects his marriage.

As he exits this stage, we should recognize Mike Pence’s public service, his public faith, his integrity, and his unswerving commitment to the sanctity of life. And we should welcome, not discourage, those who are unafraid to be unapologetically Christian, even when such devotion is mocked by the satirists or feared by the secularists.

Let’s hope that Vice President Pence continues to have a voice of moral authority in America. We still need that, and so we still need him—regardless of his political future.

I’m Daniel Darling.


PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Tomorrow: Katie McCoy joins us for Culture Friday. We’ll talk identity politics, Presidential poll numbers, and the new speaker of the house. Plus, the seafaring classic film Master and Commander turns 20 this year. We’ll have a review. That and more tomorrow. 

I’m Paul Butler.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown. 

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