The World and Everything in It: November 17, 2022

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

Law enforcement at the southern border is already a dangerous job. These days, even more so.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Also, a stray missile landed in Poland. We’ll consider what it could mean for the conflict in Ukraine.

Plus sizing up the competition as the 2022 World Cup begins this weekend.

And commentator Cal Thomas on government agencies and weapons.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, November 17th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

BUTLER: And I’m Paul Butler. Good morning!

REICHARD: Up next, Kristen Flavin with today’s news.

KRISTEN FLAVIN, NEWS ANCHOR: Ukraine–Poland » Western allies are clashing with Russia over who’s to blame for a deadly missile strike in a Polish border town on Tuesday.

State Dept. spokesman Vedant Patel:

PATEL: Ultimately, the party responsible for this tragic incident is Russia. We are having this conversation because of Russia’s barbaric assault on Ukrainian territorial integrity and sovereignty.

The Polish government declared Tuesday that the missile was Russian-made, but it could not confirm who fired it or from where.

On Wednesday, NATO officials said it appears that Ukraine’s forces fired the errant missile as it tried to shoot down an incoming Russian rocket.

Moscow’s forces fired as many as a hundred missiles into Ukraine on Tuesday, aimed at taking out the country’s power grid.

Same-sex marriage Senate » Lawmakers in the Senate are set to repeal the 1996 Defense of Marriage Act.

The effort to legislatively protect same-sex marriages cleared a major Senate hurdle Wednesday. Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said same-sex couples…

SCHUMER: Want nothing more than to live their lives without the fear of discrimination.

But many said the bill would not protect many Christians from discrimination or anyone who believes marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

The bill advanced only after an amendment passed to address those concerns. But critics say that amendment doesn’t go far enough.

Twelve Republicans voted with all Democrats to move forward on the bill. A final vote could come as soon as this week.

Arkansas “gender-affirming” ruling » A federal appeals court said Wednesday it won’t reconsider its ruling temporarily blocking Arkansas from enforcing its ban on performing so-called “gender-affirming” procedures on children.

The 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied the state’s request for the full court to hear its appeal.

The state says the law provides important protections. Arkansas Attorney General Leslie Rutledge:

RUTLEDGE: Imagine a 9-year-old making a decision whether to be a male or a female for the rest of his or her life. That’s why this law was important - was to protect those children.

Arkansas’ law prohibits cross-sex hormones, puberty blockers, and surgeries for children.

A landmark trial over whether to uphold or strike down the law is set to resume later this month.

McConnell reelected as leader » Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell will remain the Senate’s top Republican.

He won reelection as leader on Wednesday, quashing a challenge from Sen. Rick Scott by a vote of 37-10. It was the first-ever attempt to oust him after many years as GOP leader. But McConnell said it didn’t bother him a bit.

MCCONNELL: I’m not in any way offended by having an opponent or having a few votes in opposition.

McConnell is poised to become the Senate's longest-serving leader when the new Congress convenes next year. He took over as the party’s Senate leader in 2007.

Title 42 » Border Patrol officials say a ruling from a federal judge this week lifting Title 42 restrictions could spell even bigger trouble for the border crisis.

Title 42 allows the government to more easily remove migrants who cross the border amid an epidemic or pandemic.

U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan on Tuesday ordered the lifting of removal procedures that have been in place since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. The Biden administration sued to lift them.

National Border Patrol Council spokesman Art Del Cueto:

DEL CUETO: The floodgates had already been opened, but with this, you’ve pretty much handed the keys over to our border to the criminal cartels and the smuggling organizations.

Traffic at the southern border has already surpassed record levels. Border officials reported more than 2 million migrant encounters over the past year.

Philly migrant buses » Meantime, Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney is blasting Texas Gov. Greg Abbott for sending a charter bus full of migrants from the southern border to Philadelphia.

Texas and other Republican-led states are continuing to transport migrants to self-proclaimed sanctuary cities. Kenney accused Abbott of using them as political pawns.

But he also said his city would welcome the newcomers with open arms.

KENNEY: It is possible for government and local communities to work together to strengthen systems of support for newcomers.

Texas officials say that’s easy for Kenney to say, as his city receives dozens or hundreds of migrants, while well over a million migrants have crossed the border into Texas over the past year.

I’m Kristen Flavin. Straight ahead: the dangerous job of border enforcement.

Plus, preparing for this year's World Cup.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Thursday the 17th of November, 2022.

Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler. Up first: Moscow leaves Ukraine in the dark after Russia’s defeat in Kherson.

Russia initiated its biggest missile attack yet on Ukraine’s power grid, launching up to 100 missiles at Ukrainian cities.

On the same day, a rocket landed in a Polish border town on NATO soil, sparking fears of a major escalation of the war. But it now appears that it was a stray Ukrainian defensive missile that crossed into Poland.

REICHARD: Those events followed a landmark victory for Ukraine in the war, retaking the city of Kherson from the Russians. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called that victory “the beginning of the end” of the war.

WORLD’s Kent Covington spoke with John Hardie about the latest on the war in Ukraine. Hardie is deputy director of the Russia Program at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He’s an expert on Russian foreign and security policy and U.S. policy toward Russia. Here now is that conversation.

KENT COVINGTON, REPORTER: John, thanks for joining us. Let’s start with the missile that struck that border town in Poland. The Polish government said the missile appeared to be Russian made. But NATO now says it was most likely a stray Ukrainian air defense missile. How does something like that happen? Is it simply an error of entering the wrong coordinates for the defense missile, or what?

JOHN HARDIE, GUEST: Sure, so they've been at this for some weeks now, I think essentially the goal is to try to sap Ukraine's will to continue fighting by making life hard on the population, making a tough winter without much electricity. Already, Ukraine's had to impose some blackouts and energy rationing. I think, in fact, it will have probably the opposite effect in that it will bolster Ukraine's determination to continue fighting and to win.

COVINGTON: I saw a complaint online and I can’t verify the authenticity of its origin but it appeared to come from the Wagner group, the mercenary group working on behalf of Russia. They actually complained that Moscow was hitting the wrong targets. They were saying instead of hitting civilian targets and infrastructure, why weren't they hitting supply lines from the West and things like that.

HARDIE: Yeah, so I think a number of Russian commentators have had these frustrations for a while. Basically, Russia has various technical challenges it's not able to overcome when it's trying to target dynamic moving targets like supply columns coming from the West. So the Russian Air Force has been very limited in its effectiveness because it was unable to take out Ukrainian long range and medium range surface to air missile systems. So it really hasn't been able to drop dumb bombs on key bridges of the Nieper, for example, and then the Russians just aren't really great at dynamic intelligence. And that that really makes it just impossible to hit anything but fixed targets deep within Ukraine. So, taking out a supply column with the cruise missile or something just isn't really something they're able to do, again, without being able to fly deep into Ukraine and drop dumb bombs.

COVINGTON: So, obviously we have you know missiles and technology we've had for some time now missiles and technology that allow you to even change course mid flight to really target to hone in on something whereas a dump bomb as you say is just you could drop it out the window and it goes where it goes is that what Russia has reduced to now or they they don't have enough precision guided missiles to be able to hit things? 

HARDIE: So dwindling stocks of PGM is one issue...

COVINGTON: PGM meaning, what?

HARDIE: Precision guided munitions. That's certainly one issue. But another I think it's just a weakness that they came into the war with, which is a weakness in dynamic intelligence collection, a shortage of long range surveillance drones, other built-in weaknesses in the Russian military that reduce its effectiveness in targeting dynamic moving targets beyond the immediate battle lines and the very near rear.

COVINGTON: Talk a little bit about the significance of recapturing Kherson and what that means for this war?

HARDIE: Yeah, so it's a very significant victory for Ukraine and an equally humiliating defeat for Russia, especially since they've been saying for a while now that Russia is going to be here forever. This is now, in Putin's eyes, Russian territory. So to have to retreat is certainly an embarrassing loss. Militarily, it really puts the death knell in any hopes they had for taking Mykolaiv and then Odessa. So for Ukraine, that's obviously a big victory and this region is very economically significant for Ukraine as well. So it should help their economy in the years ahead. Going forward from here, I expect both sides will pivot some of their forces from that area to other fronts. I think that's probably already happening. Zaporizhzhia Oblast in the south, south-central Ukraine is likely a key area where the Russians will look to bolster their lines and that might be one area where Ukraine tries to watch another counter-offensive in addition to the ongoing fighting in the east.

COVINGTON: Well, as we mentioned, Zelenskyy called Kherson the beginning of the end of the war. What does that mean? And with winter setting in, that changes things somewhat. So what happens next in this war?

HARDIE: Well, I think Zelenskyy’s right in the sense that it does seem like an inflection point. I think the Kharkiv counter-offensive back in September was one. And this is certainly another important point in the war. But there's gonna be a lot of tough fighting ahead. I'd expect this war will last well into 2023, if not longer. So, the Ukrainians will have their work cut out for them. And then for the West, we have to think about ways to make our aid to Ukraine more sustainable and more rational over time.

COVINGTON: What would that mean?

HARDIE: So I think for sustainability we just have to make sure we're producing these things in significant quantities. In some areas, we're already running a tad low. And then on the rationalization side, I think Ukraine is operating something like 14 different artillery systems right now. That's a tough logistical burden. And so to the extent that we can hone in on just a few systems that can make that logistical tail a little bit more easy to manage. It's tough because in some cases we have Western countries scraping the bottom of the barrel and providing just about as much as they can. So you kind of have to take what you can get, but to the degree we can sort of marry those challenges that will be helpful for Ukraine.

COVINGTON: John, we just learned this week that Russia is in a recession, their GDP is dropping. Explain the impact that this war is having on the Russian economy. And how sustainable is this? How long can Moscow bear the costs of this war?

HARDIE: The economic impact has certainly been significant. I think the Russians, at least initially, were able to blunt the full force of the impact through creative capital controls, high energy prices, and what have you. But as energy prices have come down a bit, you've seen the Russian budget surplus really vanish and meanwhile, the Russians are burning through some of their foreign exchange reserves, half of which were really taken off the table by Western sanctions. So I think the sanctions will have an increasing impact on Russia's economy over time. But really, as long as they have the energy, especially the oil revenue flowing, I think they'll be able to sustain the war. If that goes away, which the West is at least trying to cut into, life will get a little bit harder for the Kremlin.

COVINGTON: John Hardie is with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. John, thanks so much for your time!

HARDIE: Thank you.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: returning to the US/Mexico border.

Earlier this week you heard the stories of ranchers living in the Texas border town of Eagle Pass. They are dealing with unprecedented numbers of illegal immigrants crossing into South Texas.

Last year in just this area alone, U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents apprehended nearly a half million people.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Today, WORLD Radio correspondent Bonnie Pritchett returns to South Texas and brings us this report on the toll illegal immigration is taking on law enforcement.

AUDIO: [DISTANT HUM OF TRAFFIC]

CORRESPONDENT, BONNIE PRITCHETT: A bridge spanning the Rio Grande connects the cities of Eagle Pass, Texas and Piedras Negras, Mexico. Travelers must stop at border checkpoints before entering either country.

Below the bridge, a small band of travelers skirts the checkpoints and wades across the river. They step ashore and—illegally—enter the United States.

VOICES: Donde esta Venezuela? Venezuela. Guatemala. Nicaragua. Nicaragua…

They are met by Border Patrol agents, including Mickey Donaldson.

MICKEY DONALDSON: So, right now the water is real low as you can see the individual making the entry it's only up to his his ankles…

Donaldson is the agent in charge of the Eagle Pass North Border Patrol. It’s part of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Del Rio Sector – a 53,000 square mile expanse of South Texas with 242 miles of river bordering Mexico.

MICKEY DONALDSON: See three really small children that came across so we see this all day, you know, with family units and single adults and just everything.

Eleven adults accompany the children. Two Border Patrol agents hand out white, plastic drawstring bags to hold the immigrants’ few worldly possessions. The agents collect them and give the immigrants a claim ticket they’ll use to retrieve their belongings after Border Patrol releases them.

DONALDSON: Right now, kind of already had the morning rush. We've seen a lot of migrant traffic in the morning…

About an hour earlier, along a different stretch of river, Border Patrol arrested 600 migrants. By day’s end, they will apprehend about a thousand more. Between 1500 to 2000 people are arrested each day in this region. That doesn’t include the 1000-plus people who are known gotaways.

Managing the border crisis requires coordination between local, county, and state law enforcement and Border Patrol. Governor Greg Abbott even deployed the Texas National Guard to assist.

Federico Garza served 26 years with the Texas Department of Public Safety and now serves as the Eagle Pass Police chief. He hasn’t seen anything like this.

GARZA: But in this situation a lot of folks are just crossing over the river. And and that's when it becomes a big problem because there's so many areas of searchers coming in. Border Patrol's strapped with the processes, Department of Public Safety and ourselves and the sheriff's office, we're trying to do the best we can to try to keep it under control. Our resources a stretch tremendously… 

This year emergency calls to police and sheriff’s offices have increased, especially reports of trespassing.

If local police arrest an illegal immigrant, they don’t put them in jail. Officers hold them on location and call Border Patrol to pick them up.

GARZA: And wait for them to respond. And they're busy. And sometimes it takes a while. It might be hours, I fear its sometimes two hours, three hours for them to respond.

While officers wait, they aren’t on patrol or available to respond to emergency calls.

Texas lawmakers have provided funds to supplement local agencies. Chief Garza uses the money to pay overtime. He said the bigger paycheck doesn’t compensate for other, more significant, deficits.

GARZA: But the problem becomes when you're using the same personnel, you know, over and over and over again, pretty pretty much you you overwhelm them. It's just like we're working the same workhorse all the time…

Jason Owens understands their frustration. He’s the chief patrol agent in command of the Del Rio sector.

OWENS: The Border Patrol is a border security agency. Our job in a nutshell is to keep bad things and bad people from coming into this country to do it, its people and our way of life harm. Now, because of the nature of our location and where we work, we also do an immigration mission. That, but that is by no means what defines us…

But it is taking up most of their time.

OWENS: The the surge that we see at the border, that comes at a cost in many different ways. Number one, it's dangerous for the migrants. And what that also does is it forces us to take on a humanitarian role performing search and rescue and some of the processing efforts that you saw right now in our processing facility. And when we're doing that, we can't be out on patrol doing the border security mission.

Chief Owens said operationally and emotionally, his 1,700 agents are overwhelmed, but diligent. So he bristles when they are maligned.

OWENS: So, I've been doing this for a long time. And I can tell you, I've had rocks thrown at me I've been spit on. I've been called a Nazi. I've been called a jackbooted thugs I've been called a racist. You see some of the hateful things that are that are said on social media. It's absolutely offensive to me, to have somebody I consider to be a brother or sister that just literally risked their life to save a migrant. And then have somebody call him a name like that. Yeah, that's absolutely. It's offensive in a way that I can't even articulate…

About 850 immigrants have died this past year trying to cross into the U.S. all along the Texas border. In September the rain-swollen Rio Grande swept away dozens of people trying to cross at Eagle Pass. Nine drowned.

The unsuccessful rescues and the body count have taken a toll on all law enforcement officers.

And not all souls are lost to the river. It’s their fate that weighs on Chief Garza’s officers.

GARZA: My officers’ distress was just seeing people walking around the streets, not having direction of where to go. And lost. Yes, that's it.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Bonnie Pritchett in Eagle Pass, Texas.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: A British man feared he was going deaf in one ear.

Wallace Lee chalked it up to years of working with helicopters.

He decided to buy an endoscope to see what was going on inside his ear. And lo and behold! It captured a video image that revealed a small white object lodged deep inside his ear canal.

It took a doctor to remove it. Any guesses?

BUTLER: A golf ball?

REICHARD: An earbud! Lee thinks it’s been there for five years, after he took a nap on a long flight…and that when he pulled the soft rubber bud out, it detached from the plastic insert.

So it’s out now and more good news is that Lee and his golf ball have an improved game now that his balance is back.

It’s The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Thursday, November 17th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: The World Cup. Every four years, national soccer teams from all around the globe compete for the world title. This time around, Qatar is hosting the tournament and it kicks-off this weekend.

REICHARD: During the qualifiers earlier this year we spoke with Adam Belz, host of the Scuffed Podcast—a podcast that’s all about the US Men's and Women’s National Soccer Teams. He’s back now with a preview of what he calls the biggest sports event in the world.

BUTLER: Adam, let’s begin with the basics. Earlier this year, 32 teams from around the world qualified to compete in the 2022 World Cup. How does that get narrowed down to the final two teams a month from now?

BELZ: They are divided into eight groups of four…In the group stage, you play the other three teams in your group once each. And at the end of that round robin stage, the two teams who did the best go on to what they call the round of 16—the first knockout round, which is single elimination.

The U.S. needs at least one win and a draw to proceed to that round of 16. We face Wales on Monday—it’s their first time at the World Cup in 64 years. Then we play perennial favorite England the Friday after Thanksgiving. That’s followed by another challenging match with Iran on November 29th. How likely is it that the U.S. men’s team will advance?

BELZ: It's not going to be easy. I think the whole range of possibility is in play. We could go three and out in the group and go home with our tails between our legs. I think that's totally possible. Wales and Iran are good teams. England is considered one of the contenders to win it all.

If the US Men’s team was to go three and out, is it like the Oscars? “It’s just an honor to be nominated?” Or in this case, at least the US Men’s team qualified this time around, unlike 2018?

BELZ: I think it depends a lot on how they play, you know…if we lose all three games in the group—but they're all exciting games—where we tried to score goals, and we did score goals. And, and we fought hard and we didn't look like we didn't look like a bunch of wimps out there, then I think we can be proud to have been at the World Cup.

But it sounds like that’s not quite enough…

BELZ: You know, getting to the round of 16…besting two other teams in your group. That's…enough, no matter how you do it, really. But I would say even if we get knocked out in the group, as long as we play with energy, and give fans something to be excited about in those games, I think that would be you know, a success.

There’s been a lot of attention leading up to this World Cup on poor working conditions for migrant workers building the venues, the lack of proper accommodations for the million plus spectators, the US team logo in the press room including a rainbow…yet I’m amazed at how much space on social media has been devoted to the bland US uniforms.

BELZ: I think a lot of people don't like the uniforms. For me, I think if we get out of the group, and say we win a knockout round game and go to the corner quarterfinals, which we've only ever done once. Nobody's going to care about the uniforms. It's going to be about results.

So as someone who follows this closely, what are you looking forward to seeing over the next 10 days from the American team?

BELZ: I'm excited to see Christian Pulisic, Giovanni Reyna, Tim Weah, Yunus Musah, and Weston McKennie, and Tyler Adams are all healthy at the same time. This young team has struggled with injuries over the last year and they've never fully coalesced. I think, to see them all together, healthy playing on the biggest stage is going to be I think, really fun. And I'm cautiously optimistic that we’ll surprise people because of how poorly we played in our last friendlies in September. So we have everybody underestimating us. I think that's a good place for us to be at.

Globally, the World Cup is bigger than the World Series, the Super Bowl, and in many ways it’s even bigger than the Olympics—as national teams made up of the world’s best soccer players compete against each other. What’s special about this young US team—even as we admit it’s highly unlikely we’ll finish in the top 8?

BELZ: Yeah, the roster comes from all kinds of different walks of life. It's made up in large part of the children of or the grandchildren of immigrants. The children of military members who served overseas. We got players from Missouri, Georgia, New York, Washington, Texas, California, a lot from New Jersey, and of course, Christian Pulisic, from Hershey, Pennsylvania. And, you know, one that one of the players’ dad is a carpenter in suburban St. Louis. One of the player’s grandfather is from Croatia. Tim Weah—his dad is the president of Liberia. And Tyler Adams also grew up in New York, was raised by a single mom until he was 13. And now he plays in the Premier League for Leeds United. So I think sort of the melting pot of the U.S. represented on this team, something we can all be proud of.

Adam Belz is one of the hosts on the Scuffed Podcast, we’ll include a link in today’s transcript if you’d like to hear more of his detailed analysis of the US Men’s and Women’s Teams. Adam, thanks so much for joining us this morning!

BELZ: Thank you!

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Today is Thursday, November 17th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Paul Butler.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Commentator Cal Thomas now on good reasons many find it hard to trust federal agencies like the IRS.

CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: Conspiracy theories sometimes have at least a thread of truth in them, which is what makes them valid to some on the far right.

One of those theories is that the federal government is not on their side. Take the news last May about the hiring of 87,000 new IRS agents. Trust in the IRS has been in decline for many years, ever since President Richard Nixon used the government as a weapon against his political enemies and Lois Lerner during the Obama administration denied tax-exempt status to many conservative political and religious organizations.

Another reason some Americans on the right don’t trust the government–some are aware of the number of weapons associated with government entities, including some departments within the IRS.

I did not know until constitutional attorney John Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, a conservative Christian public interest law firm based in Charlottesville, Virginia, sent me a list of federal agencies that have weapons we didn’t know about, though various media have occasionally reported on the subject over the years.

Here’s the list from the Rutherford Institute that Whitehead sent me, which he says he compiled from those few media that did report on the subject:

• The IRS has stockpiled 4,500 guns and 5 million rounds of ammunition in recent years, including 621 shotguns, 539 long-barrel rifles and 15 submachine guns. If true, an explanation is needed so that conspiracy theories don’t multiply.

• The Veterans Administration (VA) purchased 11 million rounds of ammunition (equivalent to 2,800 rounds for each of their officers), along with camouflage uniforms, riot helmets and shields, specialized image enhancement devices and tactical lighting. That’s ironic since many veterans used weapons to defend the nation. Are they now seen as potential enemies of the government many of them fought for?

• The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) acquired 4 million rounds of ammunition, in addition to 1,300 guns, including five submachine guns and 189 automatic firearms for its Office of Inspector General.

• According to an in-depth Rutherford Institute report on “The Militarization of the U.S. Executive Agencies,” the Social Security Administration secured 800,000 rounds of ammunition for their special agents, as well as armor and guns. Seniors beware!

• The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) owns 600 guns. And the Smithsonian Institution now employs 620-armed “special agents.” You’d better not get near those dinosaurs, or litter the highway, or else.

Should we be concerned? Congress authorizes the budgets for these agencies. Have members asked their secretaries and directors why they need all this fire power? Why haven’t the broadcast networks and major newspapers conducted investigations?

Freedom is not easy to obtain, but it is easy to lose. Ask those who once lived in free societies that are now ruled by one party dictators. The buildup of weapons, the proliferation of cameras, the increasing fear among some that our government is no longer on “our side” reminds me of the lyric from a song by The Police: “Every move you make, every breath you take, I’ll be watching you.”

I’m Cal Thomas.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Tomorrow: The Babylon Bee’s Seth Dillon joins us to talk about the role of humor in this age of confusion.

And, Collin Garbarino reviews WORLD’s Book of the Year—a book about an early president.

Plus, Word Play with George Grant.

That and more tomorrow.

I’m Paul Butler.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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