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On Culture Friday, what’s behind Ohio enshrining a right to abortion in its constitution; The Marvels brings underperforming storylines together in a compelling way; and life in a lighthouse in Kennebunkport, Maine. Plus, the Friday morning news


Captain Marvel in Disney's The Marvels Photo by Disney

PREROLL: The World and Everything in It is made possible by listeners like us. My name is Jeff Decker. I live in Kingston, New York, with my wife and five children. I work as an arborist in the Hudson Valley, taking care of trees. One of my favorite parts of the program is hearing which verse Myrna Brown chooses from the crossway lectionary through the Bible in a year. I hope you enjoy today's program.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning! Today on Culture Friday: Another pro-life defeat at the ballot box.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And media stories on manifestoes and politicians living double lives. We’ll talk it over with John Stonestreet on Culture Friday. Also today, a new superhero movie that’s better than you might’ve thought.

VOICE 1: You cannot protect your people.

VOICE 2: But you can stand tall without standing alone.

And life in a lighthouse in coastal Maine.

AUDIO: It's kind of like living on a small farm. You're always pushing, pulling, hauling, moving, painting. You know, it just never ends.

BROWN: It’s Friday, November 10th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

BROWN: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.


KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Israel » In the war-ravaged Gaza Strip, there will be relative calm today, at least for several hours.

Israel has agreed to daily humanitarian pauses in its war with Hamas, four-hour windows that will allow civilians to escape the combat zones.

State Dept. spokesman Vedant Patel:

PATEL: There will be two humanitarian corridors allowing people to flee the areas of hostilities in the northern part of Gaza.

President Biden pressed Israel for pauses in the war in large part to evacuate American citizens, and hopefully secure the release of Americans held captive by Hamas.

National Security Council spokesman John Kirby:

KIRBY: We’d obviously like to see these pauses be useful in getting all 239 hostages back with their families to include the less than 10 Americans that we know are being held.

The White House is hoping to see those 4-hour windows expand. President Biden has been asking for a three-day humanitarian pause.

Blinken in SoKob » The growing military alliance between Russia and North Korea — also known as the DPRK, poses a threat to the region and to the entire world.

That’s the message from Secretary of State Tony Blinken who told reporters in Seoul, South Korea:

BLINKEN: We’re seeing the DPRK provide military equipment to Russia for pursuing its aggression against Ukraine. But we’re also seeing Russia provide technical and support to the DPRK for its own military programs.

Blinken talked with South Korean leaders Thursday about ways Washington and Seoul can work together with other allies to pressure Russia to stop sharing military technology with Pyongyang.

The secretary is in New Delhi today, the final stop on a tour of the Indo-Pacific region.

Pelosi attacker trial » The man accused of attacking Nancy Pelosi’s husband with a hammer last October is now facing trial. WORLD’s Josh Schumacher has more.

JOSH SCHUMACHER: David DePape has pleaded not guilty to charges of attempted kidnapping of a federal official and assault with intent to retaliate against that official. Investigators say DePape broke into Nancy Pelosi's California home last October attacked her husband. He reportedly told officials that he wanted to kidnap Pelosi who was in Washington at the time.

His defense attorney argues that DePape is not guilty of the specific charges in question, because he was not after Nancy Pelosi to stop her from her official duties.

DePape allegedly believed several conspiracy theories regarding Pelosi and had other government officials he planned to kidnap, including California governor Gavin Newsom.

If convicted, he could serve up to life in prison.

For WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.

Manchin not seeking reelection » There’s only one of them in the U.S. Senate, and soon there may be none. Pro-life Democrats, that is.

West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin with this announcement Thursday:

MANCHIN: After months of deliberation and long conversations with my family, I believe in my heart of hearts that I have accomplished what I set out to do for West Virginia. I have made one of the toughest decisions of my life and decided that I will not be running for reelection to the United States Senate.

His announcement follows months of speculation that he might leave the Democratic party and run next year as an independent.

The red state senator has one of the most moderate voting records in the upper chamber and had repeatedly staved off GOP challengers.

His exit creates a key opportunity for Republicans to flip the West Virginia seat in 2024.

Fed speech » Inflation may be easing – but the U.S. is not out of the woods yet. That according to Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell.

Powell said the central bank’s in no hurry to raise interest rates again, but...

POWELL: We will continue to move carefully however, allowing us to address both the risk of being misled by a few good months of data and the risk of over tightening.

Powell says inflation may not be easing fast enough to reach the Fed’s goal of a 2 percent annual rate.

And that could mean more interest rate hikes still lie ahead.

Vatican transgender » The Vatican is taking another step to expand the acceptance of people who identify as transgender in the Roman Catholic church. WORLD’s Christina Grube has more.

SOUND: [Bells tolling]

CHRISTINA GRUBE: Pope Francis late last month signed a document to allow transgender Catholics to be baptized.The document was released this week.

It says such baptisms are only permitted if it does not cause—quote—“scandal or disorientation” among other Catholics.

The new guidance came in response to a set of questions submitted in July by a Brazilian bishop asking about LGBTQ people’s participation in baptisms and weddings.

The statement also said that adults who have undergone gender-transition surgery could be godparents and witnesses in Catholic weddings under certain conditions.

The Roman Catholic Church still prohibits Same-sex couples from serving as godparents.

For WORLD, I’m Christina Grube.

Actors strike follow-up » Hollywood is scrambling to get the cameras rolling again, after actors and studios struck a deal to end a monthslong strike.

Actor Rico E. Anderson said he got a call from his agent on Wednesday.

ANDERSON: When she hit me up around 5 and said the strike was over, she was like, “Get ready.”

But with everyone now trying film at the same time, there may not be enough skilled workers for the behind-the-scenes job on sets.

That means moviegoers might have to wait even longer for some films to hit the big screen. Studios were already forced to push back the planned releases of blockbusters like Gladiator 2, Avatar 3, and multiple Marvel movies.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: Culture Friday with John Stonestreet. Plus, The Marvels hits the big screen.

This is The World and Everything in It.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Friday the 10th of November, 2023. Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. It's Culture Friday. Joining us now is John Stonestreet, the President of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast. Good morning to you, John. Welcome back.

JOHN STONESTREET: Thanks. Good morning.

EICHER: Well, what do you think is going on at the ballot box? A constitutional amendment for abortion in Ohio, and that keeps the streak alive for the pro abortion side. Do you think that pro life has become politically toxic, John?

STONESTREET:  Well, I think that what we have going on here requires a lot of analysis. And it kind of underscores something that a lot of people said, which is the end of Roe doesn't settle this issue any more than the beginning of Roe did. And I think we kind of all thought that but we're kind of feeling it, we're kind of seeing it up close and personal here that just like there were decades of upstream cultural things to do before the political evil, which was Roe v. Wade, could be unseated and done away with state by state, you know, that continues.

I think there's also then upstream from these state ballot initiatives, there's the cultural reality that we are addicted to personal autonomy and personal freedom. That's the defining characteristic of the American people. We may not like abortion, but we're not sure whether there's such a thing as something being right or wrong. We're moral relativists through and through and through. We might not want to choose abortion for ourselves, but we don't want to take someone else's right to choose away because choice is the highest good if you think personal autonomy is the definition of human dignity. So these are the ideological undercurrents that I think that are beneath all these things.

The other thing I think that's worth mentioning here, and I think a handful of people said this on Twitter, the law is a schoolmaster as Scripture says. It teaches us things, it catechises us. And even if Roe is gone, the 50 years of it teaching us lessons is not. And those lessons remain. And that is that to take away a woman's right to choose is to carve away at her dignity. That's what abortion advocates have been saying for a long time. That's what pro-abortion justices have been saying for a long time. And I think a lot of people actually just at the heart believe it. So I mean, one of the stunning things about this Ohio deal was you get into counties that were heavily GOP in the last presidential election, where Biden lost those counties big time, and this still passes in those counties. Look, sometimes elections and ballot initiatives in particular, tell us where the culture is going to go. Sometimes, and this is one of them, it's like a big "you are here" yellow arrow on the map, that says this is where we really are.

So look, I'm glad we celebrated. It's been a year and a half now, since the end of Roe, the celebration is over. And it's not good folks. What we actually believe in our heart of hearts as Americans, including conservatives, including even some people who don't like abortion themselves, is still we are committed top to bottom to this idea of autonomy, to choice, that somehow that is what gives humans dignity and to violate those things is to violate their dignity, even if that means the death of a whole lot of babies.

EICHER: Well, and John, you know, the effect of this on politicians, they they see which way the wind is blowing, and you know how that you know how that ends.

STONESTREET: I think that's possible. I think that if you think of politics as a purely pragmatic thing, then you know, that's going to be the obvious way to go. But it's going to be the wrong way to go because politics is a pragmatic activity. But if it's not moored into eternal principles, then it becomes Machiavellian, it becomes Faustian, you know, it becomes deceptive and you sell your soul in the process. You cannot maintain and sustain the idea of human rights without a fundamental definition of the human person.

I don't think that what we're really dealing with here is that abortion is a losing issue. I think that there's parts of it that you know, we've got to do it differently. We've got to do it better. We got to watch the wording, we got to do more pre work, we need to especially watch the timing of things. We've got to remember, like the end of Roe wasn't put to a popular vote. And if it had been put to a popular vote, we'd probably still have Roe. So look, I know that we have a lot of folks and I know what they're saying. And I certainly appreciate many of these folks that you know, are just convinced that we're moving in a pro-life direction. But there is a big difference between being personally pro-life and being really pro-life. There's a big difference between not wanting an abortion yourself and actually understanding that at the core of our human dignity is not this fantasy of autonomy, but actually being made in the image of God. And that just leads to completely different political outcomes.

EICHER: Right, John, before we go, there were a couple of media stories we wanted to get your comments on. I want to begin with the Nashville tragedy, the Covenant School shooting, and the leak this week of a few of the pages of the young woman's writings. Now, of course, we don't have everything, but this is really something because the woman who carried out the attack killed by police, we heard in the early days, was a young woman identifying as a young man, transgender, and so we thought we knew what this was going to be about. And it may still turn out that way. Who knows when the rest of the writings come out, if ever we see them. But with this small amount that has been leaked this week, the only picture we have is that the motivation may have had to do with white privilege, even though the girl was white, the attacker. What do you make of the small bit that we did see? Does it shed any light? And are we irresponsible to even talk about this?

STONESTREET: No, I don't think it is. I mean, I think you know, you have to keep in mind, according to the initial inventory of what was taken from the shooter, there's twenty some pages, so there's a whole lot more to this manifesto than just this. But what came out was pretty indicting, pretty damning, and, you know, at the very least, underscores why people want to know, when you talk about someone who identified as a sexual minority category, one of these made up categories, then going in and aiming at Christians. You know, in every other situation, we either got the manifesto, within minutes, or some analysis of it some kind of telegraph of, well, this is what it means. And it has just been quiet. And I can't help but look at this and contrast with what has happened here in Colorado Springs. So we're coming up to the one year anniversary of the shooting at Club Q, that LGBTQ club, and which was immediately labeled across America by every authority, without any manifesto, or any sort of evidence whatsoever as a hate crime.

EICHER: I mean, in this case, we were all thinking this is going to be a transgender issue. But the information we have is that this is more of a white privilege, kind of thing. I mean, that's all we've got, though.

STONESTREET:  Yeah, well, that's all we got on that. And there was still some of that critical theory-mood language that decorated that whole thing. So I wouldn't be surprised if it goes beyond but here's my point. In contrast with the Colorado Springs thing, it was like a month of saying this out loud over and over and over as if we knew it were true without any evidence whatsoever, no manifesto, nothing like that, that could ever support it. Basically, there was this history that was being looked at of this troubled person, the sick person and then pulled together and made it seem like clear an anti-LGBTQ hate crime. And everybody repeated it everywhere until they stopped and they got really quiet and they haven't said a thing. And mainly because this guy came out as having visited Club Q for around a year and identifies as non-binary and now you force now all I know the motive behind that, the best explanation is he's just trying to get out of federal hate crime charges.

How can we be so absolutely certain of the motivation here? And so mum about the motivation that spelled out in a manifesto in Nashville. I think that is the reason that so many of us are so frustrated, and it actually is leading to violent actions, and those actions have happened, you know, here in Colorado Springs, and I just want to commend the Covenant School community for the remarkable way that they've demonstrated grace and mercy throughout this whole thing.

BROWN: Well, from Nashville to Colorado, to Alabama, here in my home state. An Alabama, nonprofit news company is being blasted for a story it ran revealing the transgender alter ego of F.L. "Bubba" Copeland. He was the mayor of Smith Station, a small town in Alabama, and a pastor of the local Baptist Church. The news outlet posted pictures of Copeland dressed provocatively as a woman, pictures found on a website he confirmed he operated. Copeland claimed it was only a means of getting rid of stress and called the postings a hobby and a fantasy, saying what he did in his private life had nothing to do with what he did in his "holy life."

Well, since his death by suicide a week ago, a number of news outlets and public officials have jumped to defend his behavior. They are framing him as a beloved member of the community and downplaying the double life he led. Most of the media coverage has just blasted the website that broke the story, all but accusing the publication of driving this mayor to suicide. John, it is a weird and sad story. What do you take from all this?

STONESTREET: It's hard to know what to take of all this. It is weird and it is sad, and it's easy to just use those adjectives when you're this far away and just looking at it. I no way I'm going to defend the predatory journalistic impulses that have dominated so many of these, you know, freelance websites. And then at the same time, I mean, what a bizarre and ridiculous statement that what you do in your private life has nothing to do with what you do in your “holy life.” And that that doesn't even actually comport with anything that makes any sense.

But you know, another aspect of this, it's just the media read on this. I mean, think about it, if this pastor had made this decision after committing an act of sexual perversion, against someone else, there's no way he would be celebrated as being authentic or, you know, unable to be truly himself or whatever, other kinds of crazy narratives that get superimposed, only in the case of when you have someone who betrays his community and betrays his family, betrays his friends and people who trusted him as a spiritual leader, in this way. And that kind of underscores the critical theory mood.

Now look to dress a particular way and to indulge your fantasies a particular way, at least it didn't hurt another individual, I get that, but sexual brokenness, as G.K. Chesterton said, takes a lot of forms, there’s a lot of different ways to fall down, there's only one way to stand up straight. And you know what, this did hurt a lot of people, maybe not in the way that a direct act of sexual abuse did, but a sexually abusive mindset that expresses itself and betrays a group of people you're supposed to lead, you know, and you can just see the confusion. I mean, to say something like, my personal life and my holy life, or, I mean, what does that mean? That doesn't make any sense, you know, whatsoever. So it's tragic, and it's sad. And in the coverage of it, you see an awful lot of that same framework that shaped the coverage of the what we were just talking about, the national shooting in the Colorado Springs shooting

BROWN: Indeed. Well, John Stonestreet is President of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast. Thanks, John.

STONESTREET: Thank you both.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Friday, November 10th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Nick Eicher.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: the first big movie of the holiday season arrives in theaters this weekend.

EICHER: Marvel Studios used to have the most reliable track record in Hollywood for churning out blockbusters. But lately its superhero films have been getting lackluster reviews and lower-than-hoped-for box-office returns.

BROWN: Will the studio get out of its rut with its new film The Marvels? Here’s Arts and Culture editor, Collin Garbarino

COLLIN GARBARINO: The latest film out of Marvel Studios, The Marvels, features three cosmically powered female superheroes: Captain Marvel, aka Carol Danvers, played by Brie Larson; Ms. Marvel, aka Kamala Khan, played by Iman Vellani; and Monica Rambeau, who’s still workshopping her codename, played by Teyonah Parris.

KAMALA KHAN: We’re a team?

MONICA RAMBEAU: No, no. We’re not a team.

CAROL DANVERS: We’re not a team.

Let me begin by saying that as I was walking into the theater, my expectations for this movie were pretty low. I didn’t like the Captain Marvel movie when it came out in 20-19, and I still rank it as either the second or third worst movie in the franchise. I also wasn’t a big fan of last year’s Disney Plus series that introduced us to Kamala Khan. In both, the studio got a little preachy.

That said… and I almost hate to admit it… but I actually enjoyed The Marvels.

DANVERS: What is happening to me?

At the beginning of the movie, each of our heroines is doing her own thing. Carol is serving as a sort of galactic peacekeeper in her self-imposed exile in deep space, Monica is working alongside Samuel L. Jackson’s Nick Fury as one of his scientists, and the teenaged Kamala is in her bedroom doodling in a notebook, daydreaming about what it would be like to meet Captain Marvel.

But things suddenly get weird when a Kree warlord rips a hole in space-time.

RAMBEAU: She’s entangled our light-based powers. So we switch places whenever we use them.

Monica finds herself on the distant planet Carol was exploring. Carol ends up in Kamala’s bedroom. And Kamala surprises Nick Fury by showing up on his space station.

RAMBEAU: You can absorb light. I can see it. Kamala—

DANVERS: Who’s Kamala?

KAMALA KHAN: Hi.

RAMBEAU: She can turn light into physical matter, which I have never heard of.

KHAN: I could totally show you.

EVERYONE: No!

Kamala’s thrilled to be entangled with her hero Captain Marvel, but Monica and Carol aren’t so excited. The new trio will have to figure out how to manage their malfunctioning powers before they face the villain who’s threatening the fabric of existence.

RAMBEAU: She tore a hole in space. There’s a different reality bleeding into ours.

One of the best things about The Marvels is that the script finds a credible way to rein in Captain Marvel. She’s a problematic character for any story. She’s nigh invulnerable, impossibly strong, flies at supersonic speeds, and can shoot laser beams from her fists. She’s just too powerful to be interesting. By causing her to switch places with Kamala or Monica whenever she uses her powers, the script puts a check on Carol’s ability to solve a problem with brute force.

NICK FURY: Carol Danvers. Prodigal child of the Milky Way.

DANVERS: Nick Fury. My favorite one-eyed man of intrigue.

Admittedly, the antagonist isn’t the most compelling supervillain from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but at least she isn’t just evil for evil’s sake. Like many better Marvel villains, when she complains about the state of the universe, she sort of has a point. She just has a wicked plan for solving the problems she’s identified.

DAR-BENN: Captain Marvel. The annihilator. You took everything from me. And now I’m returning the favor.

The Marvels is rated PG-13 for some brief language and sci-fi action. Other than a few bad words there’s not much that’s objectionable, making it one of Marvel’s more family-friendly installments. And at an hour and forty-five minutes, The Marvels is the shortest movie in the franchise to date. It sticks to its own story without wasting time setting up the next big Avengers crossover.

Increasingly with Marvel movies, people want to know, how much backstory do I really need to understand to enjoy this movie? Well, if you want all the origin stories, you’ll need to watch the movie Captain Marvel and the series WandaVision and Ms. Marvel. But honestly, I think you can get away with skipping them. You might not understand how everyone is related, but The Marvels does a pretty good job getting the audience up to speed on the various characters and their relationships.

One of the problems with the original Captain Marvel movie was that it took itself too seriously. I guess Marvel thought a female empowerment superhero movie needs to be earnest. This movie, however, swings in the opposite direction, offering just as much humor as action.

Iman Vellani’s Kamala Khan brings much of that humor, stealing scenes as the fangirl who made it into the big leagues. She’s especially funny when trying to play it cool. Brie Larson gets relegated to playing the straight man, and Teyonah Parris’s Monica gets saddled with the boring exposition.

At points, things get downright goofy. Some viewers will probably complain that it gets a little too goofy at times. But I prefer superhero films with a generous dose of levity. And The Marvels turns out to be a fun popcorn film to kick off the holiday movie season.

I’m Collin Garbarino.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Friday November 10th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. Coming next: lighthouse life. There’s just something about a lighthouse that captures the imagination. Its rugged beauty. Its noble purpose. Its place in history.

BROWN: Maybe all three. The rocky coastline of Maine is home to at least 60 lighthouses, many of them open to the public. Some even offer access to the keeper’s quarters.

EICHER: As part of our ongoing series “What Do People Do All Day,” WORLD Senior Writer Kim Henderson takes us to meet a pair of lighthouse keepers.

KIM HENDERSON, SENIOR WRITER: The only way to reach Goat Island is by boat.

SOUND: [Boat cranks and takes off]

The island is small, about 3 and half acres. It’s within sight of the shore at Kennebunkport, Maine.

SCOTT DOMBROWSKI: So it was very common to have up to 400 boats come in.

That’s Scott Dombrowski. He and his wife, Karen, are the keepers of the Goat Island light station. It’s a job they’ve had for 30 years.

SCOTT: Oh, we're getting greeted by the keeper’s puppy. All right. Good morning. Another great day to be alive.

As Scott steps from the boat onto the pier, the light station behind him comes into view. A gleaming white, 3-story lighthouse towers over several outbuildings. The Dombrowskis live in the keeper’s house 8 months out of the year.

They raised their two sons on the island. Karen says their unique lifestyle formed a strong work ethic in her boys. Matured them, too.

KAREN: The kids were allowed to take the boat out and go fishing when they were 10. And I had a whistle, and I would blow the whistle. And if they heard the whistle, they had to come in no matter what, my word was law because it wasn't safe.

The lighthouse has been keeping sailors safe since 1833. These days, the Coast Guard maintains the light. A private group known as the Kennebunkport Conservation Trust is responsible for everything else on the island. It’s like a living history museum. Scott and Karen are the tour guides.

A lot of visitors arrive by kayak.

SCOTT: They're out exploring the archipelago. And they know that Goat Island is available for people to come and visit us anytime. If we're here, the tower is open, but you can always come out and picnic and explore the tidal pools.

Keepers of historic properties have to be very hospitable.

SCOTT: Yeah, by the end of the season, it's like, ah, do I need to tell another story? (laughs)

Most visitors are drawn to the lighthouse. When they climb the winding steps to the top, they’re surprised by the size of the light itself. Less than a foot in diameter.

SCOTT: That’s the modern lighthouse light. That's an LED light, the first LED light put in Maine. And it was a $40,000 light bulb. A lot of people will come and say, “Well, that's not very bright.” Well, it isn't here. Because think of what a lens does. It bends the light and it focuses it somewhere else. This is focused about 12 miles out.

The Dombrowskis do more than just give tours. They also cut the grass. Keep the boats working. Clean up after storms.

SCOTT: It's kind of like living on a small farm. You're always pushing, pulling, hauling, moving, painting. You know, it just never ends. You never catch up.

The Kennebunkport Conservation Trust has a diary from one of the keepers from the 1860s. Old photos, too. When the historic preservation experts wanted to renovate the keeper’s house in the style of a specific era, the Dombrowskis picked the 1950s. They had a photograph to go by.

SCOTT: We have a picture of the keeper that we used to copy the kitchen. She was standing here. She was 19. And she was back a few years ago and we got a picture of her in the same corner.

Scott says it’s like living in a big history puzzle. You can certainly sense that in the boat house.

SCOTT: What's unique about this, I heard Karen say it, is the fact that the building’s still here, because there have been many different times that we've had storms, and I've seen this building completely surrounded by water. So whoever built it did a good job pinning it to the bedrock.

But the Dombrowskis have to keep a foot in the modern world, too. For many years, Scott had a conventional job.

SCOTT: So it was an adventure every morning, pushing the boat down and, you know, getting to meet and greet the fishermen and lobstermen as I went in.

The month of August presented a problem for Scott’s commute. The tide is especially low.

SCOTT: So I would have to go in shorts and rubber boots and I'd have my starched shirt on and I'd have a briefcase with my pants in it. And I'd have to go schlepping across the mud flats.

School meant an aquatic commute for the Dombrowski boys as well.

KAREN: When they got old enough, we just put them on the boat and they’d take themselves in. We’d, you know, get the binoculars and watch them go in. “Okay, they're on the bus.” All right.

But those days are long gone. The Dombrowskis still host lobster bakes and campouts. They still get what Karen calls “deliveries.” Pieces of wood washed up on shore that they use in fires.

But the couple is in their 60s now. They’ve started allowing some members of the Kennebunkport Conservation Trust to have “trial runs” as keepers for part of the season. They know it will take someone special to replace them.

SCOTT: We have about nine young local families that we're teaching how to keep the light and how to give the tours, all the different things that come with living out here.

For now, the Dombrowskis keep doing what they do best. Even on our boat ride back, Scott stops and offers some sailors an invitation.

SCOTT: If you want to go over to the lighthouse, it's open and, you know, wander around. It's a pretty cool spot. So, but yeah, you just got like three hours either side of a high tide that's easily accessible.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kim Henderson in Kennebunkport, Maine.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Well, it’s time to say thanks to the team members who helped put the program together this week:

Jeff Palomino, David Bahnsen, Emma Perley, Mary Muncy, Janie B. Cheaney, Carolina Lumetta, Onize Ohikere, Julie Spencer, Ryan Bomberger, Leah Savas, Addie Offereins, Lillian Hamman, Todd Vician, Cal Thomas, John Stonestreet, Collin Garbarino, and Kim Henderson.

And a new voice on the program this week: Latin America correspondent Javier Bolaños.

Thanks also to our breaking news team: Kent Covington, Lynde Langdon, Steve Kloosterman, Travis Kircher, Lauren Canterberry, Christina Grube, and Josh Schumacher.

And, breaking news interns Tobin Jacobson, Johanna Huebscher, and Alex Carmanaty.

And thanks to the guys who stay up late to get the program to you early: Johnny Franklin and Carl Peetz.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST:  Our producer is Harrison Watters. Our production team includes Kristen Flavin, Benj Eicher, Emily Whitten, and Bekah McCallum.

Anna Johansen Brown is features editor, and Paul Butler is executive producer.

The World and Everything in It comes to you from WORLD Radio. WORLD’s mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates, and inspires.

The apostle Paul writes, “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.” —2 Corinthians chapter 1 verses 3 and 4

Be sure to worship with your brothers and sisters in Christ, in church this weekend. And Lord willing, we’ll meet you right back here on Monday.

Go now in grace and peace.


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