The World and Everything in It - May 26, 2022

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Good morning!

An emerging way to grow fruits and vegetables. We’ll hear how “farm to fork” may come to a location near you in the near future.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Also the case of a military cadet who declined the Covid shot on religious grounds and then the Air Force Academy denied him graduation.

Plus making instruments of praise.

And commentary from Cal Thomas.

BUTLER: It’s Thursday, May 26th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Paul Butler.

REICHARD: And I’m Mary Reichard. Good morning!

BUTLER: Time now for the news with Kent Covington.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: New details emerge surrounding deadly Texas school shooting » New details are emerging about the deadly school shooting at a Texas elementary school and the events leading up to the massacre.

And just a note of caution, this story may be disturbing for young children.

Gov. Greg Abbott at a news conference Wednesday said 18-year-old Salvador Ramos clearly announced his intentions on Facebook.

ABBOTT: He said ‘I’m going to shoot my grandmother.’ The second post was ‘I shot my grandmother.’ The third post, maybe less than 15 minutes before arriving at the school was ‘I’m going to shoot an elementary school.’

Abbott said the gunman had no criminal record. Nor did he have any documented history of mental health problems.

Ramos was living with his grandmother and shot her on Tuesday with two guns he legally purchased the week before. Ramos then stole her car and crashed it less than a mile away, right next to Robb Elementary School.

A school resource officer tried to stop him, but he escaped and ran through a back door. Border patrol officers and several agencies swarmed to seal other classrooms and killed him but only after he killed 19 children and two teachers.

President Biden said he will soon travel to the town of Uvalde where the shooting took place to meet with the families.

BIDEN: Let them know we have a sense, just a sense of their pain and hopefully bring some little comfort to the community in shock and grief and in trauma.

Biden signs order on policing on anniversary of Floyd death » Also on Wednesday, President Biden took pen to paper at a White House ceremony, signing an executive order aimed at reforming police practices.

Most of the order focuses on federal law enforcement agencies. Biden said it will reform policies for some 100,000 federal officers.

BIDEN: Bans chokeholds, restricts no-knock warrants, tightens use of force policies to emphasize deescalation.

The order will also create a database to help track officer misconduct. That’s intended to keep problem officers from hopping from job to job.

The Biden administration cannot force local police departments to participate in that database, but it intends to use federal funding as an incentive.

The order also seeks to cut down on the flow of surplus military equipment to local police.

Biden signed the order on the second anniversary of George Floyd's death.

BIDEN: I promised the Floyd family among others that George’s name is not just going to be a hashtag. We’re going to ensure his legacy.

Last night, many gathered for a candlelight vigil at the intersection where George Floyd died at the hands of former Minneapolis police officers.

Organizers are also planning an all-day festival and a concert at the intersection for Saturday.

Congressional Budget Office says inflation to last into 2023 » Well, if you’re hoping to hear that sharply rising costs will stop rising later this year, you might want to cover your ears for a moment. The Congressional Budget Office says inflation will persist into next year. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has that story.

KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: The CBO released its economic outlook Wednesday, saying high inflation will spill over into 2023. And that will likely cause the federal government to pay higher interest rates on its debt.

The nonpartisan agency expects the consumer price index to rise by a little more than 6 percent this year and just over 3 percent in 20-23.

The normal long-term inflation baseline is 2.3 percent.

In an effort to fight inflation, the Federal Reserve is now conceding that it may need to raise interest rates to levels that would weaken the economy.

But the Fed also said that after triggering a series of rate increases in the coming months, it could “assess the effects” of those rate hikes. Then, depending on the economy’s health, it might adjust its policies.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

Lawmakers grill FDA chief over formula shortage » Lawmakers on Capitol Hill grilled the head of the Food and Drug Administration Wednesday about the nationwide baby formula shortage.

Members of a House panel on both sides of the aisle pressed FDA Commissioner Robert Califf about months of delays in investigating problems at the nation's biggest baby formula plant.

Georgia Republican Congressman Morgan Griffith:

GRIFFITH: Why did it take an onslaught of national media attention for the Biden administration to act with the sense of urgency that is required to adequately address an infant formula shortage?

A whistleblower’s tip led to a probe of possible contamination at Abbott Nutrition’s Michigan plant. The temporary shutdown of that facility largely fueled the formula shortage.

For his part, Commissioner Califf conceded …

CALIFF: The FDA’s timeliness of interviewing the whistleblower and getting into the facility for a for-cause inspection were too slow.

Califf said FDA officials knew the shutdown would create supply issues, but after inspecting the plant, they had no choice.

CALIFF: Frankly, the inspection results were shocking; standing water, cracks in the key equipment that present the potential for bacterial contamination.

He also noted leaks in the roof and a hand-washing citation.

In a statement, Abbott vice president Christopher Calamari said, “We let you down” and “We are deeply sorry.”

On Wednesday, Abbott announced plans to reopen its Michigan plant on June 4th, but it could take 6 to 8 weeks for supplies to reach store shelves. In the meantime, the U.S. military is flying in shipments of formula from overseas.

Trove of leaked evidence emerges as UN rights chief visits China’s Xinjiang region » A trove of evidence has emerged, shedding new light on human rights abuses in China. The leaked documents coincide with a visit to China by the UN’s high commissioner for human rights. WORLD’s Josh Schumacher has that story.

JOSH SCHUMACHER, REPORTER: Beijing had carefully coordinated a six-day visit by High Commissioner Michelle Bachelet.

But the communist government did not count on a leaked report, revealing mugshots of nearly 3,000 detainees, and other images from inside Chinese detention camps.

The Washington-based Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation and a group of media outlets published the pictures and documents.

The images show evidence of the mass incarceration of young and old. One photo shows a prisoner shackled to a chair.

China has denied holding an estimated 1 million Uyghur and other Muslim minorities in the camps in the northwestern Xinjiang region.

Bachelet’s trip marks the first by a UN high commissioner to China since 2005. Both China and the United Nations barred foreign media from joining the visit.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.

I’m Kent Covington. Straight ahead: indoor farming.

Plus, standing up to tyrants.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Thursday the 26th of May, 2022. This is World Radio and we thank you for joining us today! Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler. First up on The World and Everything in It: farming.

Walk into a grocery store, and you’ll usually see the produce section first. It looks fresh and appetizing. But chances are, that food has been trucked in before it’s ripe from hundreds of miles away.

REICHARD: What if that produce could be grown locally, no matter where you live? WORLD’s Jenny Rough reports.

MIKE ROSS: So let’s walk around here.

JENNY ROUGH, REPORTER: Mike Ross points to a row of leafy green lettuces.

ROSS: So pause here just to kind of show you…

He’s giving a tour of his farm in Northern Virginia.

ROSS: That's where we germinate the plants. And germination is when its first two leaves kind of pop out.

Mike and his brother, Jack, grow salad greens, herbs, and microgreens.

ROSS: So that could be, you know, sprouts or shoots. We grow an Italian arugula, so we actually import seeds from Italy. We do baby spinach, baby kale. We'll do, you know, things like spring mix and then basil cilantro, dill, parsley, mint.

No scorching sun withers the plants. No flooding erodes the soil. No pesky insects eat up the crops. The Ross brothers never worry about those things. That’s because their farm is indoors.

And instead of sprawling out, the farm goes up…

ROSS: So it's nine levels of plants.

… and up …

ROSS: Up to 20 feet.

… and up.

ROSS: So we’re going to be growing about 50 acres worth of produce in about 20,000 square feet.

A 50-acre terrestrial farm on a plot of land takes up more than 2 million square feet. So the Ross’s farm?

ROSS: Big, big space saver. It’s all protected. So rain or shine or snow, we’re growing.

They named their farm Beanstalk. It’s what’s known as a vertical farm. Dickson Despommier is credited with coining the term. He’s an emeritus professor of public health and microbiology at Columbia University. He defines a vertical farm as a multiple story greenhouse.

DICKSON DEPOMMIER: If it’s more than one story tall, it’s a vertical farm.

It’s a relatively new trend. When Despommier first published a book about vertical farms in 2010, he knew of only three.

DEPOMMIER: None of them were in America.

One was in Japan. One in Shanghai. And one in Singapore.

DEPOMMIER: Today, they’re everywhere.

So many, he’s lost count.

Advocates say vertical farms could hold the key to solving food insecurity amid increasing urbanization and unpredictable weather patterns. And they view vertical farming as a solution to another big problem in the food system: Many people don’t live anywhere near a food source.

DEPOMMIER: Half the world lives in cities. Cities don’t produce any food. All their food, all their water, all their energy comes from outside the city.

And that sometimes makes it hard to find and expensive to buy.

Andrew Kellam is the director of operations at Grow Local, a company based in Charlotte, North Carolina. Its stackable, vertical AquaTree can grow edible plants, like broccoli sprouts. It’s small enough to operate as a kitchen appliance. More of a vertical garden than a full-fledged farm.

ANDREW KELLAM: You can plop it down anywhere and all they need is a seed source, and they can grow their own food, wherever they are. Fresh, nutritious, very healthy food.

Kellam says the potential of vertical gardens and farms can go far beyond helping city dwellers snip some greens for their smoothies, salads, and omelets. People anywhere could rely on its technology. Those who live in arid climates. In food deserts. Those serving on military missions overseas. Or living in war-torn countries.

KELLAM: I mean, our first endeavor is to have a container sent to Thailand to help with the conflict at the Myanmar border where there’s tons of refugees that aren’t getting fed. We have a former missionary on our staff who is a former missionary to Thailand and he’s already been over there. So it’s not just about a business, it’s about helping people around the world who need nutritional solutions.

Today’s vertical farms are mostly limited to leafy greens. But Columbia professor Dickson Depommier foresees a day when they can grow anything from root vegetables and bush berries to melons and squashes. For all of their benefits, vertical farms do have some drawbacks. Instead of sunlight, the plants are cultivated under LED grow lights. No soil either. Instead, the roots go into a hydroponic solution. Depommier sees that as a benefit.

DEPOMMIER: So indoors, for once, we can control everything about our plants, including what goes into the plant. We already know what the nutritional requirements are for plants and animals. Indoors, I can make a diet for plants. They’re liquid diets.

But that lack of soil is controversial. Joel Salatin operates a multigenerational family farm in Virginia’s Shenandoah Valley.

AUDIO: [Chickens clucking]

His farm is unconventional too, but not because it’s vertical.

SALITAN: We look at God’s creation templates. How did God set this up? For example, herbivores in nature don’t eat meat. They don’t even eat grain. They’re not locked up in confinement eating corn and soybeans.

That’s why cows on his farm graze in fields eating as many as 40 varieties of plants. What he calls the “salad bar.” His vegetable garden grows in organic soil free from artificial chemicals and fertilizers. Outside, he holds a fistful of it in his hand.

SALATIN: The soil is actually a teeming community of beings. One handful, double handful, of healthy soil there are roughly 9 billion microorganisms. That’s more people than there are on the face of this earth. I want to fill you with wonder and awe about this invisible community.

Depriving plants of the intricacies of the soil microbiome has tradeoffs. It may affect the nutrient density in food. And gut health.

The Ross brothers do use soil at their vertical farm. But theirs is one of the few indoor farms that does. They also practice vermicomposting: using worms for decomposition of scraps. Joel Salatin says earthworms are another of nature’s beneficial wonders and can thrive in stackable containers and vertical farms.

Soil or not, the experts say it’s important to learn where your food comes from and how it’s grown. Mike Ross adds this:

ROSS: The difficulty of running a farm is something most people don’t quite understand. How you have to deal with the weather, labor markets, and all the input costs, especially today. So the fact that at least some people are able to feed themselves is pretty amazing.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Jenny Rough in Northern Virginia.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: no vaccine, no graduation.

Cadet Nathan Suess was looking forward to graduating from the Air Force Academy yesterday. After four years of intense academics, physical fitness, and military training, he would be a commissioned officer able to serve his country—just like each of his parents.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: But on Wednesday, as his classmates celebrated their graduation, Nathan wasn’t allowed to take part in the ceremony. That’s because the academy told him, and several other senior cadets to get vaccinated against COVID-19 or else.

Suess has declined to do so on religious grounds.

Joining us now to fill us in on this case is Steve West. He’s an attorney and writes about religious liberty issues for WORLD Digital.

REICHARD: Good morning, Steve!

STEVE WEST, CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Mary.

REICHARD: Well, Steve, fill us in on some details here. The Air Force issued letters of reprimand to Suess and others and told them what exactly?

WEST: They were told that refusal to take a COVID-19 vaccine was a violation of an order. Nathan Suess had previously filed a request for religious accommodation. That was denied. So was his appeal. So he was given an ultimatum: Take the vaccine, or resign.

REICHARD: And what is Suess’ religious objection to the COVID shots?

WEST: He and many others object to the vaccines because of the use of cell lines from aborted fetuses in the development of the vaccines–something which did occur around forty years ago. But he also said he was unwilling to participate in what he regarded as deceptions and untruths associated with how well the shots work, or even their safety.

REICHARD: How many cadets have requested religious exemptions from the mandate, and how many of those requests have the Air Force granted?

WEST: More than 200 of the 4000 cadets–that’s all four classes–made requests for religious accommodation. None were granted. Ultimately, nearly all of them agreed to accept the vaccine after being told they would be thrown out of the military and forced to pay back tuition costs of over $165,000. Nathan Suess was also told he’d have to stay on campus until August 1, missing his June wedding, though they could in their discretion allow him to leave sooner.

REICHARD: As I understand it, Suess’ attorney Mike Rose planned to file a lawsuit. What is his legal argument in this case? And where does it go from here?

WEST: Mike Rose said that he anticipates a lawsuit will be filed soon. He said it would be rooted in the discriminatory treatment of religious objectors in the military, where he says officials have routinely denied religious claims but granted thousands of medical and administrative exemptions. He didn’t detail strategy, but I’m sure there will be claims directly under the First Amendment’s free exercise clause and the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. That’s a federal law that requires the government to show a compelling interest and that it used the least restrictive means in burdening someone’s religious freedom.

REICHARD: There is already a larger legal fight over the lack of religious exemptions in the military more broadly, correct?

WEST: That’s right. Two federal judges have already issued orders temporarily putting a hold on the disciplining of service members who have declined vaccines on religious grounds, one in Ohio and the other in Florida. In a recent filing in the Ohio case, challengers claim “whistleblowers” reported that at an October 2021 gathering of Air Force and Space Force senior leaders a senior Air Force officer told attendees they were expected to reject COVID-19 religious exemption applications from any airmen “who would be remaining in the Department of the Air Force.”

Yet just last week, a North Dakota federal judge sided with the military, refusing to exempt 36 members of the Air Force, Air Force Reserve, and Air National Guard who have religious objections to the COVID-19 vaccine. The judge said the airmen were unlikely to succeed on their claim under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act or First Amendment. Those service members have filed an appeal.

So, nothing is resolved yet, leaving thousands of service members–and now, a couple of cadets–in limbo.

REICHARD: So, yesterday was a difficult day for the Suess family?

WEST: It certainly was. You know, Christians can and do have different opinions about the vaccines and the wisdom of vaccine mandates, and yet I doubt anyone can fail to appreciate the integrity of someone standing up for their religious convictions. Or the cost for doing so.

What Nathan’s mother told me is that “All Nathan ever wanted was to go to the Air Force Academy and serve his country. Now, “he’s not even going to have a civil engineering degree … at least that’s at risk.” What parent couldn’t be moved by that?

REICHARD: Steve West writes about religious liberties for WORLD Digital. You can read his work at WNG.org. You can also subscribe to his free weekly newsletter on First Amendment issues, called Liberties. Steve, always good to have you on. Thank you!

WEST: Thank you.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: So you’re on an airplane in flight and this question comes over the intercom: Is there a doctor on board?

Diana Giraldo is a flight attendant on Frontier Airlines. She asked that question, and then rolled up her sleeves to help a very pregnant passenger. Shakeria Martin.

Martin was on a flight from Dallas to Orlando when she awoke from a nap with strong contractions.

She told NBC’s Today Show:

MARTIN: This cannot be — there’s no way I could just have this baby on the plane.

But her baby had other plans.

Giraldo escorted her to the bathroom at the back of the plane and “two big pushes” later, baby Jada-Lynn Sky Martin arrived.

Giraldo said the baby didn’t appear to be breathing at first. So she used some light compressions and an oxygen mask.

GIRALDO: After a while, she started reacting and getting color back, and she started kind of like gargling a little bit and moving, which was a happy moment for all of us.

Indeed it was. 

It’s The World and Everything in It.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Today is Thursday, May 26th. We’re so glad you’ve joined us for The World and Everything in It.

Good morning. I’m Paul Butler.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Coming next: a musical craftsman. 

There are lots of people who make musical instruments, but today we meet a man who—like the Psalmist—also encourages worship from the heart.

BUTLER: WORLD’s Myrna Brown is here with his story now and she says it all began with a dream, a run down building, and some good old fashion tenacity.

HANK TEUTON: I meet a dozen new people everyday, they’ll just walk in and they’ll say what is this place? You live here? No… you can’t live here.

MYRNA BROWN CORRESPONDENT: Hank Teuton lives in the middle of history. His living room used to be a baggage house for the city’s first railroad depot.

HANK TEUTON: Back in the day when this was open there were 40 passenger trains every single day. It was a hopping place.

As passenger rail gave way to interstate travel, the baggage house, built in 1897, was abandoned for decades until Teuton used his retirement savings to purchase it.

HANK TEUTON: It was exactly what I was looking for. What Betsy and I had talked about…

Teuton’s late wife, Betsy believed the retired Coast Guard officer would not only learn how to build guitars, he would also one day teach others and create spaces for worship. Before he retired, Teuton spent three years learning how to be a Luthier, a builder of stringed instruments.

HANK: When I was stationed in New Orleans, I met a man named Jimmy Foster. He was building arch-top, seven-string jazz guitars. And I approached him and asked if I could apprentice with him. He was resistant at first, but eventually we became good friends and I would spend about 20 hours a week in his shop.

Teuton says his late wife also had ideas about finding just the right location.

HANK: We'll find an old grist mill or some fun place to be and the students will come and hang out with you and then you can do discipleship training there. And so, I fell in love with the building. I flew down from Philadelphia to look at it and made an offer that day.

AUDIO: [WALKING UP STAIRS]

AUDIO: What was this? This was eight offices, a breakroom and two little bathrooms were up here.

It took more than a year for Teuton to knock down walls, replace floors and repurpose his 19th century baggage house. Today he lives on the top half of the historic building. The bottom level is where he runs Baruch Guitars. It’s where he says real transformation happens. Baruch is Hebrew for blessing.

HANK: I build worship instruments. Some of them are wood and some of them are flesh. So the idea is to put worship in the hearts of people. S0 that they may bless, “baruch” God.

Teuton welcomed his first two luthiers in 2019.

HANK: One was from South Africa and the other was from Israel and they came over on tourist visas and they spent three months with me and they each built a guitar and went back with beautiful instruments.

65–year-old luthier, Randy Anderson met Teuton at church.

RANDY ANDERSON: One day he invited me down to the shop, told me what he did. It intrigued me and over a brief period of time, he talked me into starting a guitar.

But within that first year, Teuton’s dream was threatened by a medical emergency.

HANK: We were walking back from a Friday morning prayer breakfast up at church, and I said things don’t feel just right, and I got one of them to take me over to Maxwell Airforce Base to the Infirmary. They looked at me and said you need to be in the hospital. And they did bypass surgery.

Teuton recovered, but then COVID hit and everything slowed down again. Unable to continue what he’d started, 67-year-old Teuton shifted the vision and began building instruments for local charities.

HANK: Raised a quarter of a million dollars. WIth that one guitar? With that one guitar.

Determined to keep his late wife’s dream alive, he’s started teaching again. 15-year-old Evan is a homeschooled student learning how to sand down a pickguard and thanks to Teuton he’s able to recognize when the edges around his own life need smoothing out.

HANK TO EVAN: Right now you’re sanding out all of the flaw of this piece of wood so that it will sparkle and shine and just be beautiful. How has God done that in your life? What’s been the sand paper that’s gotten rid of the bumps and the creases?
EVAN: Well, there’s one big thing is moving around a lot because we’re military.

Randy Anderson is also back, showing off the fretboard Teuton encouraged him to create. Each position on that part of his guitar tells the story of Anderson’s 48 years of ministry.

RANDY ANDERSON: We served six years in a church in Joplin, Missouri where my son was born and then we went to New Mexico….

Working in his living room, listening to the familiar sound of freight trains making their way across the tracks, Teuton hopes he’ll be just as resilient.

HANK: There’s a number of things that I desire in this place. One that it be a place of worship. I would love for there to be worship teams down here sharing with one another, cooperating , sharing worship songs and writing music together. So that’s one of my dreams.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Myrna Brown in Montgomery, Alabama.

REICHARD: If you’d like to see Hank Teuton in his studio, Myrna also filed a video report today on WORLD Watch. We’ve included a link in today’s transcript.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Today is Thursday, May 26th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Paul Butler.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Here’s commentator Cal Thomas.

CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: For the third time since he became president, Joe Biden has said he would send U.S. forces to defend Taiwan should mainland China launch an attack. And for the third time, White House staff and the State Department has had to “walk back” those remarks. That’s diplospeak for denying that the United States has changed its position on the “one China” policy.

Perhaps the president means to dissuade Beijing. But this is the same president who too rapidly withdrew U.S. forces from Afghanistan and promised not to send troops to Ukraine to help it repel Russia’s invasion. His excuse? Russia is a nuclear power. So is China. What’s the difference?

Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, now 98 years-old, jumped into the fray this week. In an address to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Kissinger said Ukraine must give up some of its territory to Russia for the war to end and to avoid a wider conflict.

Kissinger has it backwards. If Ukraine surrenders territory to Russia it would likely invite Vladimir Putin to move against other countries once under Soviet control. Would Kissinger be OK with ceding those territories to Moscow to avoid “destabilization” and a wider conflict?

If the Cold War had a side benefit, it was that Democratic and Republican administrations—along with most members of Congress—were consistent on their approach to the USSR and communism. Moscow knew where we stood and that contributed to what Ronald Reagan called “peace through strength.” It also led to the collapse of communist regimes in Eastern Europe and freedom for millions of people.

I understand the feelings of those who say we can’t be the world’s policemen. With our $30 trillion debt we can’t afford to send troops everywhere. But—and this is a large but—if evil is not opposed, it will spread. That is a lesson from history we will see repeated if we don’t address it.

Doing nothing and turning a blind eye to evil allowed Nazi Germany and the imperial empire of Japan to wreak havoc on the world. Exhausted by the carnage of World War One, the West was reluctant to fight again. But the consequence of that reluctance was more carnage that might have been reduced had we acted sooner.

Yes, George Washington warned against the danger of “foreign entanglements,” but that was a far different era. And yes, Dwight Eisenhower warned against the “military industrial complex” that always seems to find wars it wants to fight and demand new weapons to fight them.

On the other hand, as John Stuart Mill wrote, “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse… A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

Somewhere between isolationism and intervention must be a middle ground. It’s up to our leaders to find it. Where are those leaders and what is our foreign policy? Those questions had better be answered quickly, or the consequences from delay could be severe.

I’m Cal Thomas.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Tomorrow on Culture Friday: John Stonestreet answers questions posed by students attending our World Journalism Institute in Sioux Center, Iowa.

And, winning World War II. We’ll review a new film that tells the little-known story of a military ruse that turned the tide of that war.

That and more tomorrow.

I’m Mary Reichard.

PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler.

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