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More countries added to the list of religious freedom violators, a survivor and advocate speaks about Title IX revisions, and the harms of a phone-based childhood. Plus, Cal Thomas on restoring order and decorum on college campuses and the Thursday morning news


Rachael Denhollander with husband Jacob and daughter Getty Images for Sports Illustrated/Photo by John Sciulli

PREROLL: The World and Everything in It is made possible by listeners like me. I'm Michael Laughlin, and I live in beautiful San Francisco with my wife, Carol Ann. I listen to World while walking my dogs Sacha and Zygo every morning. Hope you enjoy today's program.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning! New threats to religious freedom arise around the world, and a government commission says the U.S. needs to stand up to it.

COOPER: As the world's greatest democracy, the way in which we deal with hate is we confront it.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Also, the Justice department settles with survivors of assault by USA gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar. And, the effect of social media on Generation Z.

AUDIO: Social media was not magic. It was an illusion.

And lessons from the past on handling student protests.

REICHARD: It’s Thursday, May 2nd. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Good morning!

REICHARD: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.


KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Campus chaos » Some college campuses have stepped up security after anti-Israel, Pro-Palestinian demonstrations escalated in recent days.

Republican Senator Rick Scott:

RICK SCOTT:  We send our kids off to school. We expect them to be safe, expect them to learn something, build relationships. We don't expect them to be worried about whether they're gonna get beat up.

The University of California, Los Angeles canceled classes Wednesday after groups of protesters clashed the night before, shoving, kicking and beating each other with sticks.

That came just hours after police in New York City arrested almost 300 protesters and forcibly removed dozens of students who barricaded themselves inside a campus building at Columbia University. Some of those students displayed pro-Hamas banners and signs and chanted anti-Semitic slogans.

Sen. Joni Ernst:

ERNST:  What these students are celebrating today and trying to incite violence against Jews on American soil, that's not okay. The universities need to put an end to this now.

Pressure on Biden to address the campus unrest » Republicans are also ramping up pressure on President Biden to speak out publicly and decisively on the matter.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters:

PIERRE:  Hate speech should not be allowed. We should condemn that. That's what this administration has always been consistent about and clear about. And we're going to continue to do that.

But GOP lawmakers say broad generalized statements from the press secretary aren’t enough. Many are asking, where’s President Biden?

White House reporters say the president’s aides have kept a buffer zone between him and the press whenever he’s left the White House in recent days.

His Republican rival Donald Trump said Wednesday …

TRUMP:  To every college president, I say remove the encampments immediately, vanquish the radicals, and take back our campuses for all of the normal students who want a safe place from which to learn.

He also called out President Biden for what he said has been weak leadership on the matter.

Blinken Israel » Secretary of State Tony Blinken met with Israeli leaders in Tel Aviv on Wednesday … where he once again called on Hamas to accept Israel’s latest cease-fire offer.

BLINKEN:  Hamas has to decide, uh, whether it will take this deal, um, and actually advance, uh, the, uh, situation for the people that it purports to care about, uh, in Gaza.

Under the terms of the proposed 40-day cease-fire, Hamas would release 33 hostages. Israel would allow free movement in northern Gaza and possibly even withdraw its troops from some parts of the territory.

But the terror group wants Israel to entirely end its Gaza offensive in exchange for releasing the hostages. But Israel's only offering a pause.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the war will end when Hamas is destroyed. Not before then.

MTG Vacate » GOP Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene says she’s moving forward with an effort to remove the Republican speaker of the House.

GREENE: Next week, I am going to be calling this motion to vacate — absolutely calling it.

She said the party needs a leader who won’t give into Democrats.

GREENE: Mike Johnson is not capable of that job. He has proven it over and over again.

She said she’ll file a motion to vacate the speakership next week.

Greene was angered by Speaker Mike Johnson’s support for government funding and foreign aid bills that did not insist on major reforms. And now she says, she plans to force her colleagues to choose a side.

GREENE: I think every member of Congress needs to take that vote and let the chips fall where they may.

But most Republicans oppose the motion to vacate. So in order to remove the speaker, Greene would need the cooperation of Democrats. But House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries says she’s not going to get it.

He said the House needs to stop a small group of Republicans from causing chaos and gridlock in the chamber.

JEFFRIES: And so it’s going to take a bipartisan coalition and partnership to accomplish that objective.

He said Democrats will vote to keep the current speaker in place since his party does not have the votes needed to elect a Democratic speaker.

Arizona abortion » Arizona lawmakers have overturned a law protecting all children from abortion except to save the life of the mother.

Two Republicans joined every Democrat in the state Senate passing the repeal on a vote of 16-to-14.

Republican state Senator J.D. Mesnard played a recording of a baby’s heartbeat as he announced his vote opposing the move.

MESNARD: Because I believe that if I vote yes [ultrasound of beating heart] these heart beatings will be fewer, I vote no.”

Democratic Governor Katie Hobbs says she’ll sign the repeal this afternoon.

At that point, Arizona will only protect children from abortion starting at 15 weeks.

UMC approves gay leaders » Members of the United Methodist Church have voted to approve a massive change to church doctrine, upending long-held values within the denomination. WORLD’s Mark Mellinger reports.

MARK MELLINGER: Delegates at the church's general conference said self-identified homosexuals should be able to serve as ministers and leaders in the church. The vote repealed a longstanding rule based on biblical teachings.

The conference has also overturned a ban on gay people serving in ministries … and removed a rule keeping churches from donating to pro-LGBT causes.

More than 7,000 churches have left the United Methodist Church in recent years over other unbiblical changes to church rules.

For WORLD, I’m Mark Mellinger.

I’m Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: Worldwide threats to religious freedom. Plus, What social media does to Gen-Z.

This is The World and Everything in It.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Thursday the 2nd day of May, 2024.

Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Up first: religious liberty under attack.

Every year, USCIRF, the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom, publishes a report detailing failures to confront threats to religious freedom around the world.

ABRAHAM COOPER: As the world's greatest democracy, the way in which we deal with hate is we confront it. We don't sweep it under the rug. We don't make believe it isn't there.

BROWN: Yesterday, USCIRF’s commissioners explained their findings and recommendations to the U.S. State Department.

Joining us now to talk about the report is USCIRF Commissioner David Curry. He’s also President and CEO of Global Christian Relief.

REICHARD: David, good morning!

DAVID CURRY: Good morning. A pleasure to be with you.

REICHARD: David, USCIRF recently marked its 25th anniversary…can you tell us a little about how it came into being?

CURRY: Frank Wolf, who's currently a commissioner was a congressman for many decades, and he and others in the Senate in the Congress knew that there was a role to be played, a watchdog was necessary to hold the State Department, the various administrations over the years, accountable for our value of religious freedom. So they created USCIRF to do just that, to look at our interactions with foreign governments and to judge whether or not the people that we're dealing with—both our partners and those we have challenges with—to judge whether or not there are ways in which we can encourage religious freedom, support it, call out violations of religious freedom, and it has become increasingly important. There are other factors that the State Department looks at whether they want to have trade, whether they need a counterbalance of geopolitical strength in various regions, I think we all understand that. But we have to understand if we're going to do business with an India, China, these countries that have some pretty significant human rights issues, this is a sign of things of issues to come. So USCIRF plays a very important role.

REICHARD: During Tuesday’s online event, you drew attention to India, a country USCIRF says should be considered a country of particular concern. Why so?

CURRY: India since 2014 has had some of the largest rise as far as percentages of religious freedom violations of any country, and it's a large democracy, and in fact, is a friend of ours. Yet since Prime Minister Modi took over, he is part of a political party, the BJP party, which has a militia wing and other entities which are Hindu extremists, and they are targeting anybody who is Muslim, Christian, and minority faiths. And essentially what India is saying is if you're not a Hindu, you're really not an Indian citizen. Just for example, last year, there were two major incidents in Chattisgarh, India and in Manipur, India, where you had tens of thousands, about 60,000 in each region, Christians who, because of mob attacks and and the lack of government support, even the encouragement of police force, local police forces, that mobs attacked churches destroyed hundreds of churches, and and these Christians, about 120,000 of them together, have been totally displaced. They can't go back to their homes. This is a concerted attack by the government of India. They are changing their curriculums in the school, doing any number of things, to make minority faiths feel very unwelcome in India.

REICHARD: We know that North Korea and China have been countries of particular concern for years now, but there are some new additions. And let’s start with Azerbaijan. Why does USCIRF think the State Department should call it out as a CPC?

CURRY: When we designate something, we're really talking about what's happening to people within their own territory, and Azerbaijan, in a matter of a few days, expelled 120,000 ethnic minorities. You have Armenian Christians who lived in a certain territory that Azerbaijan has claimed, and they push them out, every last one of them. They then go through and they've been destroying churches, Christian cemeteries. There is a faith cleansing in this region of Azerbaijan, and then you also have a rise of arrests in the other sectors of Azerbaijan of religious minorities. Azerbaijan is playing a political game where they think they can get away with cleansing Armenian Christians from their country, and they need to be called out for it.

REICHARD: Let’s talk about Nigeria, another country USCIRF says should be on the CPC list. It used to be on the State Department’s radar, but as of 2023, it isn’t even on the special watch list. And this is despite ongoing religious violence and repressive blasphemy laws. Why do you think it’s not on the list?

CURRY: Well, it was a, was designated CPC by the Trump administration in they're last year, and then it was pulled off the list by this administration. I cannot understand.There are more Christians who are killed in Nigeria—that we can count anyway, who knows what all the numbers are in North Korea—than anywhere else: 6,500. You know, it's you should go for a period of 10-12 years, you're seeing tens of thousands of Christians who are being executed. I was there just weeks ago, and we met with some of these internet internally displaced people who are Christians living in camps 10-15 minutes away from Boko Haram, from ISIS West Africa camps, and the government is doing absolutely nothing. It certainly needs to be called out. We've made a recommendation that they need to designate a CPC. We believe that at this point, it's severe enough, you have the entire north of the country spinning off into chaos, that you should appoint a special envoy, which can negotiate between the various governments—Niger, Chad, Nigeria—to bring about some kind of cohesive response to stop these terrorist groups from attacking Christians and moderate Muslims in this region.

REICHARD: David, you've been looking at this for a long, long time. Do you have any worries that the United States is inching toward less religious freedom as the nones —the N-O-N-Es—become more dominant?

CURRY: I think what you see in the Western countries, we have issues of anti-Semitism, of anti-Islamic movements, on both sides in Europe. Here in the West, you see a tendency in corporations and maybe a bit in in government shadows, I would say, of what you see around the world, where you can have de-platforming of faith communities, because somebody doesn't like what they're saying, or their their standard of a biblical standard or something like that. So you're gonna see this happening more and more, I think you see banks that de-platform religious organizations, you could see technology groups doing that. I think it's a concern.

REICHARD: Well, lastly, today is the National Day of Prayer in the United States. And, you know, the stories of suffering might leave Christians feeling quite discouraged. So how would you encourage believers to pray for the persecuted church around the world?

CURRY: Whenever I'm with the persecuted church around the world, I see great hope. Because when people have lost everything, and now I'm speaking from my own personal faith, they find that that a relationship with Jesus is enough. And so you have incredible strength. I think the church is strong in the face of pressure. I think there are some places where the church is retreating, certainly, but I would just say get close to the stories, not because they're sad, but because they're inspiring. And when you see courage and a distance, eventually see it up close, and then you practice courage yourself, which is what we're trying to do: have moral courage and boldness.

REICHARD: David Curry is President and CEO of Global Christian Relief, and serves with the United States Commission on International Religious Liberty.

David, thank you for your time, and your service!

CURRY: Thank you.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: Justice for sexual abuse victims.

Now a quick word of warning: This story deals with difficult subject matter. You may want to fast forward about six minutes if young ones are nearby.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Last week, the U.S. Justice Department announced a nearly $139 million settlement with more than 100 women who were sexually abused by former USA Gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar. This came just days after the Biden administration changed Title IX rules for investigating claims of sexual abuse.

WORLD’s Travis Kircher has the story.

TRAVIS KIRCHER: At first glance, Rachael Denhollander seems like your typical mom. She has vegetables in the crock pot, and she’s trying to get her four children, ranging in age from 12 to 5, to watch a nature program instead of Bluey.

DENHOLLANDER: I'm homeschooling my children, and I love it. My husband is finishing up his dissertation phase of the PhD. And it is incredible to watch him delving into theology so richly… 

But a few years ago Denhollander was thrust into the spotlight as part of a dark chapter for women’s sports.

DENHOLLANDER: Larry is a hardened and determined sexual predator. I know this firsthand. 

That’s audio from a Lansing, Michigan courtroom. When she was 15 Denhollander, a gymnast, was abused by USA Gymnastics and MSU doctor Larry Nassar. Sixteen years later in 2016, she came forward with her story. More than 200 other female patients of Nassar’s followed Denhollander in accusing the doctor of abuse. In 2018, Nassar was sentenced to between 40 and 175 years in prison.

Denhollander wasn’t a part of last week’s Justice Department settlement with more than 100 of Nassar’s victims, but she remembers where she was when she heard the news.

DENHOLLANDER: I was cooking dinner for my kids.

The nearly $139 million payout was to settle claims that the FBI grossly mishandled reports of sexual assault against Nassar in 2015 and 2016. A Justice Department investigation found that FBI agents in Indianapolis and Los Angeles knew about allegations against Nassar for more than a year, but did nothing to investigate. Denhollander says the settlement is a long time coming.

DENHOLLANDER: I'm deeply grateful. A settlement with any government official—particularly law enforcement—really is quite unusual. 

But she also believes more needs to be done. She supports President Biden’s controversial decision last month to reverse certain Trump-era changes to the enforcement of Title IX – the law governing sex abuse investigations at schools that receive federal funding.

DENHOLLANDER: Those were really devastating changes. They really stripped Title Nine of a significant amount of its impact and its ability to protect against sexual assault.

Some say the Biden changes go too far, infringing on the due process rights of the accused. Among other things, the Biden administration removed a Trump-era guarantee of a live hearing where a representative for the accused could cross-examine the alleged victim and any witnesses. Under the new rule the accused can only pass on questions to his or her accuser while the answers are recorded.

DILLON: I think due process is what allows us to have confidence in the results that these processes reach.

Justin Dillon is a former Assistant U.S. Attorney with experience arguing Title IX cases. Now in private practice, Dillon says the new process eliminates the opportunity for important follow-up questions between the alleged victim and the perpetrator.

DILLON: And frankly, there is no such thing in the world, including in the Constitution, as having a due process right not to be asked hard questions. That’s just not a thing.

The Biden rule also reverts to a single-investigator model of inquiry. In those instances, the same administrator acts as prosecutor, judge and jury.

Tyler Coward is lead counsel for the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression:

COWARD: Tasking one person to have all these different roles and authority is ripe for abuse, it’s ripe for bias, and ultimately undermines the credibility of the entire process.

Denhollander says much will depend on how the rule change is implemented.

DENHOLLANDER: Do we want to guard very carefully against false allegations? Absolutely, yes. But is that the greatest problem facing us? On a statistical level, what is more likely? If someone more likely to be a victim of sexual assault, or more likely to be falsely accused?

As an advocate for abuse victims, Denhollander says she often meets survivors who think they’ve lost their faith in Jesus Christ. To counter that, she turns to what many see as a frightening image from the Book of Revelation.

DENHOLLANDER: That picture of Christ coming back with a robe dipped in blood bearing the sword of justice: That's a beautiful picture for those who have suffered.

She says victims need to be reminded of the dual nature of God: not just his mercy, but his justice.

DENHOLLANDER: I always had the cross of Christ presented to me as, “This is how serious your sin is.” And I needed to hear that. But nobody ever pointed to the cross and said, “This is how serious what was done to you was.” And we need both.

For now, she says she’ll continue her advocacy while she and her husband Jacob focus on raising godly children. And despite what Nassar did to her, she says she still has one prayer for him.

DENHOLLANDER: I pray for his repentance, right? And that if he ever comes to the point of grappling with the depth of depravity that he has been capable of, God's grace is sufficient. And that's the hope that we all have.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Travis Kircher in Fisherville, Kentucky.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Maybe you saw the old scary movie from the ‘70s about killer bees called The Swarm?

ANNOUNCER: I want every teacher and every student to close off whatever area you may be in at this very moment.

You can hear the swarm!

Well, here’s a bee story out of North Carolina. A little girl told her parents there were “monsters” in her bedroom. She’d just seen the movie Monsters, Inc, so mom Ashley Class figured that had sparked her daughter’s imagination.

Except, the family noticed more bees around the house, so they called in a beekeeper. Thermal imaging found a hive behind a wall in the child’s bedroom from floor to ceiling with 50,000 bees living in it!

Now, these are useful insects, not the killer kind ….so… baby girl moved to another room and the bees are being moved out of the house entirely.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Un-BEE-lievable.

REICHARD: It’s The World and Everything in It.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Thursday, May 2nd. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

This week on Concurrently: The News Coach Podcast, Kelsey Reed and Jonathan Boes explore the world of conspiracy theories. What draws people to conspiracy theories—and how do they shape our homes and classrooms? Here’s a preview:

JONATHAN BOES: The dangers of conspiracy theories, you know, when we hear about them in the news, it's portrayed as like the greatest danger is to our democracy, the greatest dangers to health, the greatest dangerous to this or that. I think the greatest danger is to our hearts and our families. Yes, you don't see conspiracy theories that lead us more into peace and trusting God, they usually bring out fear and anger, and it can become a whole atmosphere around somebody. I think we've all had that friend, maybe some of us have been that person, who their social media feed has just turned into a fountain of anger. That's what these theories are often designed to trigger. And when we entertain them, then that becomes the atmosphere of our home. And if we're teachers that becomes the atmosphere of our classroom. But instead, how can we allow the atmosphere of our home or classroom to be shaped by the good story that leads to God's peace?

BROWN: You can hear the entire episode of Concurrently today wherever you get your podcasts. And find out more at concurrentlypodcast.com.

REICHARD: Coming next on The World and Everything in It: social media and GenZ.

A recent Pew Research study found that about 1 in 3 teenagers believe they spend too much time on their smartphones. Mental health advocates say that number is much higher. And we know that a phone-based childhood harms children.

WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has our story.

KRISTEN FLAVIN: It’s been three months since Mark Zuckerberg’s memorable appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Missouri Senator Josh Hawley grilled the social media founder …

HAWLEY: Let me ask you this. There's families of victims here today. Have you apologized to the victims? Would you like to do so now? Well, they're here, you're on national television. Would you like now to apologize to the victims who have been harmed by your product showing the pictures? Would you like to apologize for what you've done to these good people? 

Zuckerberg hesitated, but eventually stood, faced the families, and said that no one should have to go through what they’ve gone through, though he stopped short of taking responsibility.

Zuckerberg was before the committee to talk about the steps his company was taking to protect children from sexual exploitation online. He faced a lot of push back. Senator Lindsey Graham from South Carolina.

GRAHAM: Mr. Zuckerberg, you and the companies before us…I know you don't mean it to be so but you have blood on your hands. You have a product…you have a product that's killing people.

About a year earlier, University of Washington sophomore Emma Lembke appeared before that same committee as someone hurt by social media. She told the Senators that she created her first account at age 12.

EMMA LEMBKE: These platforms seemed almost magical. But as I began to spend more time online, I was met with a harsh reality. Social media was not magic. It was an illusion…

As her screen time increased, her mental and physical health suffered.

LEMBKE: My story is not one in isolation. It is a story representative of my generation, Generation Z. As the first digital natives we have the deepest understanding of the harms of social media through our lived experiences.

In 2023, the U.S. Surgeon General issued an advisory about the crisis of youth mental health.

The report showed that up to 95 percent of youth use social media … and more than a third say they use social media “almost constantly.”

According to CDC data released this year, more than half of U.S. teen girls felt persistently sad and hopeless in 2021. That statistic represents the highest level reported over the past decade. And it represents some alarming increases in behaviors like attempted suicide.

BURKE: I think that Gen Z students, or at least the students that I'm interacting with, they do see their community as having a lot of anxiety.

Michelle Burke is a writing professor at the Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken, NJ.

BURKE: They do see higher rates of depression, um, and they want to know why, and they want to know, you know, what they can do to improve the mental well-being within their community.

She teaches a required humanities class for all Freshman students with a unit focused on social media.

BURKE: Yeah. So I always ask my students about their upbringing and like when they got their first smartphone, when they first got access to social media, how they feel about the types of decisions that their parents made.

She then asks her students if they were to become parents someday, would they be as strict as their parents were, less strict, or more strict? About half say they would be more strict.

BURKE: And I've never ever had a student say they would be less strict.

Many social-media studies have found that “phone-based childhood” prevents kids from developing normal relationships and contributes to a rise in anxiety. But Professor Burke isn’t waiting for Big Tech to fix the problem. She says it has to start in the home.

BURKE: And so we really need to guide them slowly and mindfully down this path rather than just, you know, handing a device over and then thinking like, okay, great. My, you know, my 6-year-old is occupied with his iPad, so I can go cook dinner now. And sometimes that's necessary, but we want to be careful about the kinds of habits and behaviors that we're establishing early.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Thursday, May 2nd. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Up next: student protests.

WORLD commentator Cal Thomas says it’s time to follow former President Ronald Reagan’s advice on these matters. The Gipper knew how to handle them in his day.

CAL THOMAS: The year was 1966, and Ronald Reagan was running for governor of California. A major part of his platform was to “clean up the mess at Berkeley” and other college campuses experiencing protests and strikes. The issues back then included the military draft, civil rights and so-called “women’s issues.” Today’s pro-Hamas and anti-Israel protests are on a bigger scale, but Reagan’s response can still help college administrators quell the current unrest.

Take one of Reagan’s campaign speeches cited by the Gilder Lehrman Institute of American History. In that speech, Reagan said many leftist campus movements had more to do “with rioting” and “anarchy” than “academic freedom.” He faulted university administrators and faculty for creating what he called “a leadership gap and a morality and decency gap” on campus. He suggested a code of conduct be imposed on faculty to “force them to serve as examples of good behavior and decency.”

Morality, good behavior, and decency appear to be electives, not requirements, on too many of today’s university campuses.

Regean became California’s governor in January of 1967. Six months later, he wrote a letter to Glenn Dumke, chancellor of San Francisco State College. In it, Reagan condemned those who used “the excuse of academic freedom and freedom of expression” to justify protests. He argued, “We wouldn’t tolerate this kind of language in front of our families,” and he called on Dumke to “lay down some rules of conduct.”

We need more of this type of talk to counter those who promote anarchy and support terrorist organizations like Hamas.

Last week, author Ira Stoll wrote in The Wall Street Journal that two nonprofits including the Open Society Foundation headed by George Soros have funded one organization behind some of the protests. At a minimum the IRS should check the tax-exempt status for Soros’ group and see whether they violated regulations for nonprofits. The government should also deport anyone on a student visa caught shouting anti-Semitic and anti-American slogans. Others who are found guilty of giving aid and comfort to terrorists should be expelled.

Some wealthy donors to Columbia University and other schools have pledged to withdraw financial support if order and decorum are not restored.

All of this feeds the view that America is coming apart. Where are the leaders like Ronald Reagan who label this behavior for what it is and then do something about it?

Reagan ended his letter to Dumke with this question: “Hasn’t the time come to take on those neurotics in our faculty group and lay down some rules of conduct…?”

If that time had come in 1967, surely it is long past due in 2024.

I’m Cal Thomas.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Tomorrow: Katie McCoy is back for Culture Friday. And, an 80s TV show gets a new movie. We’ll review The Fall Guy. That and more tomorrow.

I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

The World and Everything in It comes to you from WORLD Radio. WORLD’s mission is biblically objective journalism that informs, educates, and inspires.

The Bible says: “For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” —I Corinthians 1:18

Go now in grace and peace.


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