The World and Everything in It: May 17, 2024

PREROLL: The World and Everything in It is made possible by listeners like me. My name is Nathan Baylor and I'm a college student studying elementary education at Colorado Christian University in Denver, Colorado. My favorite part of the program is the preroll because it gives me the chance to pray for a new family and a new place every single day. Hope you enjoyed today's program!

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning! Today on Culture Friday: commencement addresses that will be remembered and TV relationships that won’t. Also: trading equity for security on campus and false certainty for unpopular skepticism in medicine.

NICK EICHER, HOST: John Stonestreet joins us for Culture Friday. We’ll talk about all of that here in a few minutes.

And later …

BEA: What are you anyway?

BLUE: An IF. 

… a couple of family-friendly movies hit theaters this weekend. And some listening options to help pass the time on your next road trip.

BROWN: It’s Friday, May 17th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

BROWN: Up next, Mark Mellinger with today’s news

MARK MELLINGER, NEWS ANCHOR: House vote on Biden weapons restrictions » House lawmakers have passed a bill aimed at forcing President Biden to deliver heavy weapons to Israel without restriction.

The vote was 224 to 187, with 16 Democrats joining all but three Republicans in the majority.

Speaker Mike Johnson…

JOHNSON: This should not be a partisan issue. It is shameful that it has become that. We have to stand with our closest ally Israel. They are the only stable democracy in the Middle East. They are one of our closest friends.

The measure would ratchet up pressure on the White House by cutting off funding to agencies like the State and Defense departments unless Israel gets the weapons.

But the bill is largely symbolic. Democratic leaders in the Senate say they won’t take it up.

The Biden Administration is withholding heavy bombs and other weapons over a major ground operation Israel’s preparing for the town of Rafah.

The White House is concerned that would result in mass civilian casualties. But Israel says a Rafah ground offensive is the only way to wipe out Hamas’s last remaining stronghold in Gaza.

Gaza aid pier » Humanitarian aid will soon begin flowing into Gaza through a newly constructed temporary pier.

Yesterday, Pentagon spokeswoman Sabrina Singh told reporters…

SINGH: Earlier this morning U.S. Central Command successfully anchored the temporary pier to the beach in Gaza with the help of IDF engineers and without any U.S. boots on the ground in Gaza.

That pier is expected to streamline the delivery and distribution of humanitarian aid to the war-torn region almost immediately with the United Nations overseeing the effort.

However, the UN says fuel imports have all but stopped, complicating aid delivery to the more than 2 million people in Gaza who need it.

Biden tapes/Garland contempt » The House Judiciary Committee is moving ahead with an effort to hold Attorney General Merrick Garland in contempt of Congress.

It’s a direct response to his refusal to release subpoenaed audio from the president’s interview with special counsel Robert Hur about Biden’s handling of classified documents.

Garland’s defending his approach.

GARLAND: We have gone to extraordinary lengths to ensure that the committees get responses to their legitimate requests. But this is not one.

The White House says transcripts of the interview are already available, so releasing the audio isn’t necessary.

But even the House’s top Democrat, Hakeem Jeffries, isn’t sure the Biden Administration’s being completely transparent.

JEFFRIES: In terms of this specific instance, you know, I’m going to reserve comment until I get an understanding of their rationale.

Republicans say the audio could be important to their impeachment investigation into the president, while the White House says the GOP wants the recordings released for purely political purposes.

SOUND: [Wreath laying ceremony]

China and Russia reaffirm ties » As Russian President Vladimir Putin forges a deeper alliance with Chinese President Xi Jinping, he took part in a wreath-laying ceremony at the Monument to the People’s Heroes in Beijing Thursday.

Putin is in China for a two-day visit.

PUTIN: [SPEAKING IN RUSSIAN]

Putin says relations between Russia and China have been developing for the past 75 years…and are now at what he calls an unprecedented high level.

The White House reacted to the summit by saying it doesn’t see anything new… and says it is unacceptable that China is helping Russia in the war with Ukraine.

Marijuana reclassification » The Biden Administration is moving forward with its efforts to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug.

On Thursday, the Justice Department officially submitted the proposal to the federal register kicking off a 60-day comment period.

White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre…

JEAN-PIERRE: If finalized, marijuana will no longer hold the higher-level classification it currently holds over fentanyl and meth, drugs driving our nation’s overdose epidemic.

The proposal would move marijuana from a Schedule 1 drug alongside heroin and LSD to Schedule 3, sharing a classification with ketamine and some anabolic steroids.

After the comment period, a judge may still have to review the change before it becomes official.

Missouri Attorney General may defend Butker » Missouri’s attorney general is accusing the city of Kansas City of doxxing Chiefs’ kicker Harrison Butker and says he’s taking action.

In a commencement speech at Benedictine College Saturday, Butker criticized President Biden for supporting abortion as a Catholic.

Butker also said one of his life’s greatest blessings came when a fellow classmate…

BUTKER: …would convert to the faith…become my wife…and embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker. [APPLAUSE]

Attorney General Andrew Bailey says days after that address someone with the city of Kansas City’s social media team posted a message on X, saying, quote, Just a reminder that Harrison Butker lives in the City of Lee’s Summit.

The post has since been taken down and an apology posted soon after.

Bailey says he plans to take action under the Missouri Human Rights Act and told constituents to stay tuned.

I’m Mark Mellinger.

Straight ahead: Show biz gets serious on Culture Friday with John Stonestreet. Plus, imaginary friends on the big screen.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Friday the 17th of May, 2024.

Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

It’s time for Culture Friday, and joining us now is John Stonestreet. He’s president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast.

John, good morning!

JOHN STONESTREET: Good morning.

EICHER: Well, John, it's commencement season and of course, that means commencement addresses and only a few of them really stood out, I think, for a couple of different reasons. The first one I would mention today comes from comedian Jerry Seinfeld at Duke University.

Now, I'm a Seinfeld fan. So of course, I thought it was great, but more than just the humor, the Seinfeld address was about something. And fans of the show, Seinfeld, of course will catch my meaning.

But his three keys to life he said, pretty standard: work hard, pay attention, fall in love. But the big takeaway, he made a plea to his listeners to learn to laugh and not be so easily offended. Let's have a listen.

SEINFELD: I think it is also wonderful that you care so much about not hurting other people’s feelings in the million and one ways we all do that, every second of every day. It’s lovely to want to fix those things, BUT—all caps—BUT, what I need to tell you as a comedian: do not lose your sense of humor. You can have no idea at this point in your life how much you are going to need it to get through.

Okay, now in the serious category, three times Super Bowl champion place kicker Harrison Butker gave a stoutly Catholic commencement address at stoutly Catholic Benedictine College in Kansas, and he stepped on some toes in this one. He blasted President Biden, he said flatly, you cannot be Catholic and pro-choice. He criticized what he called “the church of nice,” saying we should speak and act with charity. But charity should never become cowardice, and do not be afraid to be countercultural. And then the kicker as it were—you saw what I did there—was this:

HARRISON BUTKER: … But it cannot be overstated, that all of my success is made possible, because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker.

He got blasted in the press for that one, particularly the sports press. So John, any of these threads you want to pick up on?

STONESTREET: Just that it's always surprising how everyone's surprised when a Catholic is, in fact, Catholic, by any, you know, kind of a basic definition. And, of course, part of that is the problem of, you know, German Bishops, and, dare I say, the pope himself who doesn't always sound as Catholic as faithful lay Catholics do, particularly in the United States right now, that are doubling down on this vision of life and the world that's built around the human person, and the sacredness of being made in God's image, male and female, and all that that entails. To show gratitude like this publicly for a pretty successful life, and to do that, in front of students who need to hear it, who need to actually have a better explanation for what long-term success looks like, which is the beauty and the goodness of lifelong married love. You know that it's not just about emotion. It's not just about feeling. It's not just about, you know, falling in love in your college years. But it's about the work that goes into building a life, building a family, and that this is part of the human vocation. And college has become so locked on the idea of occupation, getting a job, making money, so that you can retire after you buy a bunch of stuff. And then, you know, have something to hand on. And this is just a different vision of life that you can see from this particular talk. And that's what the students need to hear is eternal truths. And unfortunately, at college, it's pretty rare. I don't know enough about this particular school, but if they invited this particular kicker to this particular school, bets are they're pretty Catholic as well.

BROWN: Unlike Nick, I never watched Seinfeld. Nick says I should say, “Not that there’s anything wrong with it” …

EICHER: Not at all.

BROWN: I just never watched it.

What I am not a fan of is the ABC show The Bachelor/Bachelorette. Did you see The New York Times article on why the reality TV show, those two shows, have not been able to make good on its promise of true love?

You know, apparently fans have fallen out of love with the shows—and for good reason. Reportedly out of a combined 40 seasons, only eight couples have stayed together. Now, I think you alluded to this in your earlier question about, you know, your response about lifelong love. What do we know about true love that they need to know?

STONESTREET: Well, that really whatever premises this particular show, or shows—and all the spin offs, and the various versions of it, you know, are built upon—it isn't true love. And let's just say, you know, probably half the reason why people are getting weary with it isn't just, you know, its failure rate of producing lifelong married love, because I doubt that the American public has that long of an attention span to really follow these people once they're no longer on camera. I think it probably has more to do with the just lack of creativity that reality TV is based on. So anyway, I think there's some of that here. 

But that wasn't your question. Your question was about the definition of love. And I think it's such an important question for Christians, because the greatest commandment is to love. This is not a matter of trivial concern. The greatest commandment, Jesus said is not to believe or to trust or even to obey, although I think all that's wrapped up in it, it's to love. It's to love God and to love others. And I think probably because that's how we're made, we're made to love and to give love, that we try to get at these themes in so many ways in the arts, in the novels we write, the poems we write, the stories we tell, the movies we make. But you have to know what love is. And across the board, most of the time the word "love" is portrayed, it's not love. It's certainly not love according to the brilliant book by C.S. Lewis, The Four Loves, which articulates kind of four different things that we call love. They're not four loves, really, because they're four different things, but we use the word love. And none of those things are what's portrayed in shows like this. Almost all the time we talk about love or use the word love, when popular musicians sing about love—and, um, yes, I'm including Taylor Swift into this group, we're gonna get lots of emails about that one—I would just say most of the time, we're talking about sentimentality or sexuality, in which love is this journey inside one's own heart rather than giving for the good of another. And so, you know, look, I fault The Bachelor and The Bachelorette less for getting this wrong, and more for just being silly. And good heavens, it's time to put this dog out of its misery. I'm not trying to make a Kristi Noem joke right here. 

You know, we need more creativity, and we need a better understanding of what it means to love. And look, Scripture is super clear. This is how we know what love is. He loved us first. And anything else just kind of fall short, doesn't it?

BROWN: It does. Some culture-bending going on in North Carolina. The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill Board of Trustees voted this week to defund its Diversity, Equity & Inclusion programs to invest instead in campus security.

Seems like times are changing, doesn’t it?

STONESTREET: I think so. This is an interesting story, isn't it? Because you know, when you think about culture, one of the ways to think about it is in terms of the seven spheres, some people use the seven mountains language or whatever, these different pillars of culture: education and business and the arts and religion and education and the state, for example, and we've seen a backpedaling in the business community, on DEI things for a lot of folks. I mean, you basically have Disney now tripping over itself to un-wokeify you know, if I'm to make up a word, you know, any of its new projects in the Marvel franchise, and so on. And you have some big corporations letting go senior management that were hired to do DEI. And of course on the college campus, this has gotten so much out of hand. I mean, we heard a story what last year about University of Michigan having something like 250 employees in this department of DEI or whatever it is, and it's just an unsustainable model. It actually doesn't make campus life better and tends to create more friction than it solves, which means you need more campus security. So my guess is this is just an idea meeting reality and needing to change because of it.

EICHER: A very good point. Well, John, I read this week—this will be our last question—a pretty long New York Times interview with Hillary Cass. She is the UK doctor who dared to question youth gender medicine. And here she was at the end of her career, really, headed for a quiet retirement, when she decided to pick a fight. And she really blew the whistle on the weakness of the science that drives doctors to prescribe medications or approved surgeries. And she's made a big difference in the UK.

But here in the U.S., they are just trying to ignore her. In the Times interview, Dr. Cass said, what some organizations are doing, and she's talking about American organizations, what some organizations are doing is doubling down on saying the evidence is good. And I think that's where you're misleading the public. You need to be honest about the strength of the evidence and say what you're going to do to improve it.

Is that not an example John, of how one strategically placed person can speak up and make a difference?

STONESTREET: I think this is making an enormous difference. This Cass Review is so important in terms of around the world, and that it is going to put a lot of pressure, I think, on American, counterfeit medical organizations like WPATH. We have so much of this science that people just started to look and go, “Wait, you're just saying this out loud as if it's true, and you have nothing to back it up.” I mean, it's kind of really been the way the sexual revolution has proceeded throughout all the history, you know. Oh the kids will be fine, you know, with no-fault divorce or, you know, with intentionally marriageless homes or something like that. And we just said it out loud as if we had any data and we didn't, as if the science was settled, and it wasn't. And now, you know, everything points in the opposite direction. And the aggressiveness. It's interesting to I mean, Hillary Cass has been very clear that she's not ready to completely pull the plug on this. She thinks some kids still need this kind of help towards “transitioning,” you know, socially, and maybe there's room at some degree for surgical and chemical interventions. And in that, I think she's wrong, because I think there's never a case for it. But the fact that she's looking around going, “Listen, you guys are saying that this is the recommended treatment, and you're railroading people down this path, especially young kids, and not taking into consideration all the obvious things that a lot of us have been pointing to.” And for Cass to do all the research and all the data, and then what do you have? You have these people just saying, “No, it's settled. It's settled” as if it is. I think this is so absolutely important. I've told everybody I can, read the Cass Review, know about the Cass Review. 

What a remarkable story this will be. This will be one of the central stories of 2024 when we get to December and do the year-end review. And look, she's done this at great personal cost–she doesn't feel safe she said, going out in public, she now has protection when she goes. And all she has done is said you guys need to pump the brakes on this. You're moving too fast. And all the evidence points to that. So good for her. And I hope she gets the support and protection she needs. But this New York Times piece is basically asking—and rightfully so—why are these medical organizations in the U.S. just ignoring this? And it's a very, very important question.

EICHER: And in need of an answer. John Stonestreet is president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast. Thank you, John. We'll see you next time.

STONESTREET: Thank you both.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Friday, May 17th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Nick Eicher.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: Some new movies debut this weekend that might interest families. Here’s arts and culture editor Collin Garbarino.

AUDIO: [Flight sounds]

COLLIN GARBARINO: If you’re the kind of movie fan who enjoyed the excitement of Top Gun: Maverick a couple of years ago, then you might want to head to your nearest IMAX this weekend for the documentary The Blue Angels.

PILOT: I fell in love with Aviation at four years old. My dad took me to an airshow, and I got to watch the Blue Angels fly for the very first time.

The U.S. Navy Blue Angels have been thrilling audiences at airshows since 1946. But this new documentary gives viewers a much closer look at the iconic flight exhibition team than anyone could ever get on the ground. This movie marks the first time civilian camera crews have been allowed to film in the Blue Angels’ practice airspace.

PILOT: This year, we’re bringing five new people into this team.

In addition to the stunning aerial acrobatics, the documentary gives us a behind-the-scenes look at the lives of the select few who are considered the best the Navy has to offer. Of the nearly 4,000 Navy pilots, only six make the cut to join the Blue Angels. The training is grueling, but the pace doesn’t slow down once they take their Boeing F-18 Super Hornets on the road. 

The film is rated G. And though some of the flight scenes might have you on the edge of your seat, these elite pilots handle their planes and their attitudes with the utmost professionalism. The Blue Angels is a celebration of the kind of excellence that made America great. If you can’t make it to an IMAX this weekend, The Blue Angels lands on Amazon’s Prime Video next weekend.

Our other family option in theaters this weekend is IF from John Krasinski, who most people remember as Jim from The Office.

Krasinski has two daughters, and in his filmmaking, the actor turned writer/director has leaned into his role as “girl dad.” His 2018 thriller A Quiet Place revolved around the father-daughter dynamic. IF explores the same bond, but the tone couldn’t be more different. IF is a family movie that combines live-action and animation to introduce us to a world populated with imaginary friends.

BEA: What are you anyway?

BLUE: An IF.

Bea, played by Cailey Fleming, is a 12-year-old girl who’s struggling to find joy in the midst of her father’s illness. While staying with her grandmother, she meets a reclusive neighbor named Calvin, played by the very funny Ryan Reynolds.

CALVIN: Hey. What are you doing? No, no, no… Don’t do this…

BLUE: [Trying to hold back a sneeze.]

CALVIN: Don’t do this, OK?

Calvin has a big secret. He’s been looking after IFs—imaginary friends—who’ve lost their kids. Most notably a purple monster named “Blue” and a four-foot-tall butterfly named “Blossom.” Calvin’s been trying to find them new kids, but he hasn’t had much success.

BLUE: Hi.

CALVIN: Well, looky looky.

BLUE: She is the perfect fit. I promise.

CALVIN: Did she even see you?

BLUE: She was about to.

Bea decides to help Calvin by launching a matchmaking service. But instead of helping the IFs, the IFs help Bea see that despite her father’s illness, she doesn’t need to grow up too fast.

IF feels like a family movie from a bygone era, and if not for the repeated use of God’s name outside of prayer, this film could have been rated G. The film’s humor and colorful characters will entertain kids. Parents will appreciate the skillful storytelling in this lean 104-minute comedy with a tinge of melancholy. IF moves from playfulness to poignancy and back again without missing a beat.

The colorful and zany imaginary friends are voiced by a host of Hollywood A-listers. Krasinski’s old co-star from The Office, Steve Carell, voices Blue. Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Louis Gossett Jr, Matt Damon and many others voice the other IFs. But despite the animated antics, this movie is about a dad’s desire to hold tight to his child, though we cleverly experience this desire from the kid’s perspective. Krasinski exhorts us to find joy even when life doesn’t go as planned. And he suggests that rekindling a sense of childlike innocence can be a beautiful thing. Also, the movie’s pretty funny.

CALVIN: Keith! What kind of kid creates an invisible IF!

I’m Collin Garbarino.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Friday, May 17th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

Well, It’s that time of year again—time to pack the car, grab the sunscreen, and hit the road for a family vacation.

Reviewer Emily Whitten now with three listening options for families to help the miles go by.

SOUND: [MOUNTAIN BIKE CRASH]

REVIEWER EMILY WHITTEN: Summer is a time for new adventures. And if your family is ready to break out of the ordinary, check out the podcast Real Survival Stories. Narrated by actor John Hopkins, it’s just right for adventure-hungry boys and teens.

DEEP SEA DIVER: But one hundred meters below the surface, on the seabed, there is deathly calm. Through his diving mask, thirty-two year-old Chris Lemons scans the black expanse above him, his panicked eyes searching the gloom for a glimmer of light.

With over 40 episodes, I couldn’t listen to all of them. But in the ones I heard, there’s plenty of action, as Hopkins drops readers right into the climax of the story. We hear interviews with the survivors–people like deep sea divers and ultra-distance runners who nearly died adventuring. For instance, Lauren Elder’s plane crashed in the Sierra Nevada mountains.

PLANE CRASH IN SIERRAS: As I look out the window, there’s just literally a vertical wall of granite that’s very, very, very close. Much too close for comfort. And that’s the last thing I remember.

Younger children and sensitive listeners should definitely skip this podcast. Its serious tone can be frightening, and episodes include gruesome injuries and gross survival tactics. But for more mature kids and adults, Real Survival Stories offers gripping storytelling that’s life-affirming and emphasizes resilience. At times, survivors call out to God. Most don’t know Jesus, but their stories boldly illustrate themes of salvation and self-sacrifice.

For instance, in Dilemma on Mount Blanc, one mountain climber puts his life in danger to stay with another.

DILEMMA ON MT. BLANC: He was told to leave me. I’d like to think I’d never have left him. But I can’t prove that. Whereas Matt absolutely has proved it, because he didn’t leave me. The man is so staunch, it’s unbelievable.

Next up: older girls and young teens who enjoy The Chronicles of Narnia might try a new audiobook called Once a Queen available on Audible and Spotify. It’s by Christian author Sarah Arthur and narrated by Shakira Shute. Once a Queen is about an American teenager named Eva who goes to stay with her wealthy British grandmother in an English manor house.

AUDIOBOOK: I tried to act as though all of this was perfectly ordinary. Riding in an actual luxury car driven by an actual chauffeur to an actual English manor house owned by my actual grandmother. As one does.

Eva quickly learns that the estate is full of mysteries. Every night, paintings seem to come alive. She learns about portals to another world, but why won’t anyone let her in on the secret?

AUDIOBOOK: It felt like they were all part of the same conspiracy: to keep me in the dark as long as possible about everything, for reasons I could only guess. Maybe my nosiness was a threat to whatever delicate equilibrium they’d all achieved at Carrick Hall.

Ultimately, Eva’s relationship with her queen-like grandmother takes a surprising turn. Readers may notice this book uses a lot of Christian allegory, but the allusions don’t overwhelm the narrative. That makes the end satisfying on a number of levels.

Our final listening option is likely best for those with younger kids.

KING OF THE AGES: [INTRO MUSIC]

The Great Jungle Journey is the most recent album by Seeds Kids Worship. As in previous albums, Jason Houser and his team here set Bible verses to music. Their goal is to make Scripture easy to memorize or as they put it, to “help plant God’s word” in hearts and minds.

KING OF THE AGES: To the King of the Ages: immortal, invisible, the only God.

The Great Jungle Journey differs from some earlier albums in one way–it was created in partnership Answers in Genesis. So, the album initially focuses on the Bible’s first chapters.

GOD CREATED: Day one: God created the light. Day two: God created the sky. Day three: the dry land and the seas and all the wild plants, the forests full of trees, yeah.

With only 6 songs total, the album doesn’t have a huge scope. And most of the songs have a bouncy, summer camp feel. But the musicians take on a slightly more somber tone to reflect humanity's need for a Savior.

NOT EVEN ONE: They have all turned aside together, they have become corrupt. There is none who does good, not even one, not even one.

These tracks can be repetitive at times, but that might mean faster memorization. However, if your family doesn’t enjoy this kind of kids’ music, you might try Caroline Cobb’s music album based on the Psalms. You can find our review of that album linked in today’s transcript.

In the meantime, I hope these three listening options get you off to a great start on your family’s summer adventures.

I’m Emily Whitten. Bekah McCallum contributed to this review.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Well, now it’s time to thank the team who helped to put the program together this week …

Jenny Rough, David Bahnsen, Emma Perley, Lindsay Mast, Will Inboden, Leah Savas, Daniel Suhr, Onize Ohikere, Noah Burgdorf, Janie B. Cheaney, Leo Briceno, Mary Muncy, Grace Snell, Cal Thomas, John Stonestreet, Collin Garbarino, and Emily Whitten.

Special thanks to our breaking news team…Lynde Langdon, Steve Kloosterman, Kent Covington, Mark Mellinger, Travis Kircher, Lauren Canterberry, Christina Grube, and Josh Schumacher.

And the guys who stay up late to get the program to you early…Johnny Franklin and Carl Peetz.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Our producer is Harrison Watters.

Our Senior producer is Kristen Flavin, and Paul Butler is Executive producer.

Additional production assistance from Benj Eicher and Bekah McCallum.

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The Apostle Paul writes, “Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” —2 Corinthians 12:8, 9

Worship with brothers and sisters in Christ in church this weekend, and Lord willing, we’ll meet you right back here on Monday.

Go now in grace and peace.

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