The World and Everything in It - May 10, 2022
Plans by Finland and Sweden to join NATO; the latest military moves in Ukraine; and a woman working to build a pro-life movement in Europe. Plus: commentary from Steve West, and the Tuesday morning news.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: Well, good morning!
Russian aggression is tilting traditionally neutral nations like Sweden to join NATO.
NICK EICHER, HOST: Also Russian president Vladmir Putin’s Victory Day speech yesterday. What can we glean from it?
Plus a conversation with a pro-life leader in Europe.
And WORLD commentator Steve West on tools to tamp down your terrors.
REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, May 10th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.
EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!
REICHARD: Now news with Kent Covington.
KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Russians mark victory over nazis in WWII as Putin claims to fight nazis in Ukraine » AUDIO: [Parade]
Thousands heard there marching in Moscow on Monday in Russia’s Victory Day parade. The annual event commemorates Russia’s victory over Nazi Germany in 1945.
And this year, many Russians marched believing their country is once again fighting Nazis, but this time in Ukraine.
A 49-year-old Russian named Andrei is among the many who believe what their government has told them.
ANDREI: [Speaking in Russian]
He said “There are many places (in the world) where there is Nazism, and now it has come close to our borders, this can't happen. It was necessary to carry out the operation (in Ukraine).”
And Russian strongman Vladimir Putin repeated those lies on Monday.
PUTIN: [Speaking in Russian]
He also said Russia’s military action in Ukraine was defensive and that Western policies and aggression forced his hand.
U.S. State Dept. spokesman Ned Price responded…
PRICE: To call this anything other than a premeditated war of choice against the state of Ukraine, the people of Ukraine, is patently absurd.
Putin on Monday repeated the same false justifications for what he calls a special military operation, but he announced nothing new. He did not declare victory in Ukraine or formally declare war.
Biden signs Ukraine ‘lend-lease’ bill in rejoinder to Putin » Meantime, in Washington, President Biden put pen to paper in the Oval Office. He signed a bipartisan measure into law that reboots the World War II-era “lend-lease” program that helped defeat Nazi Germany in order to bolster Kyiv and Eastern European allies.
BIDEN: I want to thank members of Congress here for getting this passed and everyone who supported the bill.
Flanked by two Democratic lawmakers and one Republican, Biden signed the bill, which had sailed through the Senate last month with unanimous agreement. It passed overwhelmingly in the House as well.
The new legislation will streamline the process of supplying weapons and equipment to Ukraine. It also comes as Congress is poised to unleash more resources of $33 billion or more to fight the war.
BIDEN: The cost of the fight is not cheap. But caving to aggression is even more costly. That’s why we’re staying in this.
When it comes to Ukraine, Congress has held together in a rare bipartisan fashion. Lawmakers from both sides of the aisle largely support other measures as well, including calls to investigate Putin for war crimes.
Biden announces free internet for low-income families » The Biden administration announced an agreement with internet companies that could effectively provide free internet service to low income Americans. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has more.
KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: The administration says 20 internet companies have agreed to provide discounted service to people with low incomes at about $30 per month.
Taxpayers would pick up the rest of the tab through the Affordable Connectivity Program. The $1 trillion infrastructure package passed by Congress last year included $14 billion for that program.
Biden, during his push for the infrastructure bill, made expanding high-speed internet access in rural and low-income areas a priority. He talked about low-income families struggling to find reliable Wi-Fi, so their children could take part in remote schooling or complete homework assignments during the pandemic.
Some 48 million households will qualify for the program.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.
Firefighters continue to battle massive fires in New Mexico » In New Mexico, more than 1,600 firefighters are battling two blazes covering a combined area more than twice the size of Philadelphia.
The fires have destroyed more than 300 homes over two weeks and they still threaten thousands of buildings.
The weather still wasn’t cooperating on Monday with wind gusts up to 50 miles per hour. Officials warned residents in some smaller communities to be ready to evacuate.
Strong winds have fanned the New Mexico fires for weeks with only brief interruptions.
Havana hotel death toll at 31 as dogs search for survivors » The death toll from a powerful explosion at a luxury hotel in Cuba has grown. WORLD’s Anna Johansen Brown reports.
ANNA JOHANSEN BROWN, REPORTER: At least 31 people are now confirmed dead in Havana. Search crews with dogs continue to dig through the rubble of the iconic, 19th century hotel looking for people still missing.
More than 50 others were injured, with 24 hospitalized.
The explosion shot flames into the sky on Friday over the Hotel Saratoga, a five-star 96-room hotel in Old Havana. It was preparing to reopen after a 2-year closure when an apparent gas leak ignited, blowing the outer walls into the busy, midmorning streets.
The blast, just a block from the capitol building, also damaged several nearby structures. Those included the historic Marti Theater and the Calvary Baptist Church, headquarters for the denomination in western Cuba. No church workers were hurt.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Anna Johansen Brown.
I’m Kent Covington. Straight ahead: expanding the NATO alliance.
Plus, the only weapon that can cast out fear.
This is The World and Everything in It.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Tuesday the 10th of May, 2022.
This is WORLD Radio and we thank you for joining us today. Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.
NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. First up on The World and Everything in It: military alliances.
The Russian invasion of Ukraine is approaching the three-month mark with no end in sight. The Kremlin has justified the invasion in part by claiming it’s a question of security: Ukraine, the Russians say, is moving toward NATO membership and that’s a threat.
REICHARD: But Russia’s resort to bloody invasion and war may be having the opposite effect: instead of deterring its neighbors from joining the West, it appears to be propelling other countries straight into NATO’s arms.
WORLD correspondent Jill Nelson reports.
JILL NELSON, REPORTER: Finland has a long history of staying out of military alliances. It decided against NATO membership after World War II and again after the Cold War and instead pursued its own strong defenses and dialogue with Moscow.
Elisabeth Braw is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute who focuses on defense. She says the Finnish public backed the government’s position.
BRAW: Public opinion was such that it was just totally unthinkable that the government would ever get the idea of taking the country into NATO. Public support was in the low 20s, occasionally might go up to 26, 27 percent, but never above that. And so it was just never up for discussion.
But that changed after Russia’s recent invasion of Ukraine, a peaceful neighbor.
BRAW: It became clear very soon after that that the Finnish public was beginning to think differently about NATO. So within weeks, public support had shot up to 68 percent. It’s really unprecedented, this sort of shift in public opinion from the twenties to 68 percent.
The Finnish parliament is expected to present an application to NATO in the middle of May. That has caught Sweden by surprise. Its dominant political party has long been opposed to NATO as well. But Braw says it knows that if Finland applies for NATO membership, so should Sweden.
BRAW: And the reality is such that it would be very difficult, militarily, very difficult for Sweden to remain outside NATO if Finland joined. So in effect, Sweden will have to apply together with Finland, the most remarkable development ever.
Moscow says NATO’s borders are getting too close. And some analysts warn NATO’s new expansion will only further provoke Russia.
Bradley Bowman is a former U.S. Army officer and defense expert with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. He disagrees with those claims.
BOWMAN: NATO is not a threat to Russia. But I think the reason why Putin resents NATO is because when a country becomes a member of NATO, it prevents Putin from invading, bullying, and occupying that country.
When a country joins NATO, all members of the alliance are obligated to protect that country. The former Soviet republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania joined NATO in 2004 and still have secure borders.
Ukraine and Georgia are not members of NATO. Russia invaded Georgia in 2008. And in 2014, Moscow invaded Ukraine and illegally annexed its Crimean Peninsula. Nearly 14,000 Ukrainians died in that round of violence.
In February, Russia launched another war in Ukraine with the largest European invasion since World War II. Bowman says it isn’t difficult to do the math.
BOWMAN: What do all of those have in common? That is all unprovoked Russian aggression against non-NATO members. So Putin himself is the most persuasive billboard possible for the value of NATO membership.
Finland and Sweden are no strangers to Russian aggression. Finland declared independence from Russia in 1917, and in 1939 the Soviet Union invaded Finland and kept around 10 percent of its territory. Finland and Russia share an 800-mile border.
The relationship between the two countries has been less stormy since then, but Russia has frequently invaded the airspace of Finland and Sweden, sent submarines into their waters, and launched cyber attacks.
Moscow has threatened to deploy nuclear weapons and hypersonic missiles to its Baltic base in Kaliningrad if the two Nordic countries join NATO. But Bradley Bowman says the Russian President’s threats should not determine the future of Western alliances.
BOWMAN: Who do you think should decide whether a country joins a defensive alliance? Should it be the free people of that country and their duly elected representatives, or should it be Vladimir Putin? And I say it should be the first.
Elizabeth Braw grew up in Sweden and says Russia has been issuing threats against Finland and Sweden to discourage NATO membership for years. She thinks this is the perfect opportunity for the two countries to join the security alliance because Russia is too bogged down in Ukraine to direct any resources elsewhere.
BRAW: That's why it mostly looks totally pathetic and desperate when various officials issue these pronouncements and threats, because it is so blindingly obvious that Russia is heavily involved in Ukraine, over its head in fact, and wouldn't be able to take on any other war
NATO says it will welcome the two Nordic countries and fast-track the review process. Leaders of the 30-member alliance have not issued a timeline but say they will protect Sweden and Finland in the interim.
And while the Nordic countries stand to gain from their membership, Bradley Bowman says so does NATO, for two main reasons.
BOWMAN: One is that both countries have significant militaries. They're not enormous militaries, but they're advanced militaries. And then geographically, you only need to look at a map to understand that adding Finland in particular would really create some geographic continuity between Norway, who is already a NATO member, and the Baltic States, which are already a NATO member, and would provide significant geographic advantages in the Baltic Sea…
Bowman says expanding NATO may be one of the best ways to deter future aggression from Russian President Vladimir Putin.
BOWMAN: It may be that the quickest way to provoke Putin is with weakness. This is a former KGB Colonel that respects strength. And if you don't want more of what I've described, these invasions and occupations of and violation of international borders in Europe, the best way to prevent that is with strength.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Jill Nelson.
NICK EICHER, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: Russian lies and negotiations.
As we reported a short time ago, Vladimir Putin addressed the Russian people as the country marked its annual Victory Day speech. The military parade commemorates the Russian victory over Nazi Germany in 1945.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: What can we glean from Putin’s remarks on Monday, as well as other recent remarks by Russian leaders?
And despite the rhetoric, are we any closer to a negotiated end to the war in Ukraine?
EICHER: Joining us now to talk about it is Dalibor Rohac.
He’s the author of the book In Defense of Globalism. He’s an expert on geopolitics in and around Europe. He’s testified before the House Foreign Affairs Committee and he’s briefed the U.S. Helsinki Commission.
REICHARD: Good morning, Dalibor.
DALIBOR ROHAC, GUEST: Mary, great to be with you. Thanks for having me.
REICHARD: Well about that speech. What did you take away from it?
ROHAC: I think the most important observation is that the military parade and the speech were a somewhat subdued affair by Russian standards, by the standards of the Kremlin. Clearly, Putin is not winning in Ukraine. And we saw the absence of military airplanes, supposedly for bad weather. We saw Putin talking about, essentially, his paranoia about this sort of idea that the West was about to attack Russia, and that Russia had to defend itself. But we saw very little in terms of the sort of big announcement that some people were bracing for, whether declaring mobilization and declaring war on Ukraine, which would enable Putin to summon all the reservists in Russia, or reaching out and trying to find some sort of negotiated settlement with Ukraine. I think he is in the corner that he boxed himself into and he's just going to try to kick the can down the road.
REICHARD: Putin has worked very hard to control the messaging within Russia. He’s repeated a lot of lies, such as the idea that Ukraine is controlled by Nazis and the press in Russia is not allowed to dispute him. Do most Russians believe this is a just war?
ROHAC: It is very hard to gauge what the collective mood is in Russia. And clearly there are differences between big cities and the countryside. But in an autocratic system, in an unfree country, people don't respond truthfully to opinion polls the way they would respond in, say, the United States or in democratic societies of Europe. So it's very hard to sort of see where most Russians stand on this. Given the incredibly high casualty rate, maybe 25,000 Russian soldiers have been already killed in the fight in Ukraine, it is, I think, reasonable to assume that there is a slowly but surely building constituency opposing the war, which is not politically organized, but might represent over time a massive weakness for the regime.
REICHARD: I’m wondering about the reality on the ground such as has Russia had any strategic gains? Or has Ukraine regained any of its territory?
ROHAC: Over the past three or so weeks, the fighting has been concentrated in eastern Ukraine and a lot of it has been kind of static with very little advances made by the Russians, although they have strengthened the military presence there, redeploying all these battalion tactical groups from around Kyiv to the east of Ukraine. But clearly these units are depleted, are facing significant morale problems, suffered very high casualty rates in earlier fights. So, it looks like Russians are unable to actually advance any further than they currently are. On the other hand, there have been some minor counter-offensives on the Ukrainian side. But, again, the fighting is not of the same sort of intensity we saw in the earlier weeks of the war. Maybe with the exception of the fight for Mariupol, which seems to be nearing its end.
REICHARD: What has the West gotten right, and what has it gotten wrong in terms of its role in helping bring the war to an end?
ROHAC: One thing that played an important role, I think, in the early days, particularly even in the build up to the invasion was the new approach taken by particularly U.S. intelligence services, with regard to information warfare. So in the past, Russia sort of enjoyed the first mover's advantage in situations like these, even when the U.S. or other Western allies were aware of its intentions. This time around, the U.S. government decided to broadcast very loudly, very clearly what Russians intentions were. And I thought that that actually played a helpful role in taking off some of the momentum from Russia's actions and spoiling the element of surprise and just sort of making Russian lies more transparent. So that's certainly something that we get right.
Also, building up this vast Western coalition in support of Ukraine, ranging from the United States through Western Europe, and through indeed, much of Europe, all the way to Australia, which is sending military equipment, I think, is one of the successes of this administration. On the other hand, given how far the United States and other allies have been willing to go in support of Ukraine, it really is a shame that that had not been articulated before the invasion, because it could have possibly prevented the invasion if we were able to signal credibly to the Russians, that there will be real consequences—not just talk—but real consequences in terms of arming Ukrainians, in terms of slapping very painful sanctions on Russia, on its oligarchs, on its banking sector, financial industry, etcetera. Maybe this would not have deterred Putin, but it could have and we will never know. We'll never be able to run that experiment again.
REICHARD: Dalibor Rohac is a senior fellow with the American Enterprise Institute. Thanks so much!
ROHAC: Thank you so much for having me.
NICK EICHER, HOST: A Texas woman recently bought something for $35 at a Goodwill store in San Antonio that, as it turned out wasn’t what she thought it was.
It was a marble bust of man with no markings to help identify the subject.
Art collector and dealer Laura Young thought she was buying cool, potentially valuable sculpture. But Sotheby’s auction house discovered there was a lot more potential there. Turns out it’s an ancient piece of Roman history.
She found out that the bust once belonged in the collection of the Bavarian King Ludwig I.
The sculpture has been missing since World War II. It was last seen in Germany, and experts believe a soldier took the sculpture and brought it to the United States.
Unfortunately, that means Ms. Young cannot keep or sell the bust. And she told KXAN that’s kind of a bummer.
YOUNG: Cuz at first, you know, I’m a dealer. I bought him expecting to sell him.
But on the other hand...
YOUNG: I’m glad that Sothebys did their due diligence. I’m thrilled that I wasn’t accidentally part of like a war crime.
The bust is now being displayed in a museum until it’s returned to Germany.
It’s The World and Everything in It.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Tuesday, May 10th. We’re so glad you’ve turned to WORLD Radio to help start your day.
Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.
NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: encouraging pro-life news from Europe.
For many years, European countries generally accepted that access to abortion was a settled question. But that’s changing now.
REICHARD: A new generation has some different ideas. Here is WORLD European Correspondent Jenny Lind Schmitt with a story of a woman who started putting those ideas into action.
JENNY LIND SCHMITT, EUROPEAN CORRESPONDENT: As the debate over Roe v. Wade appears to be moving to state fights in the U-S, Europeans are paying close attention. The recent New York legislation permitting abortion to the end of pregnancy shook many pro-life Europeans out of their complacency
CZERNIN: I think this caused a big impact also in Europe of like a wake up call. This might come to us soon.
Maria Czernin is spokeswoman for ProLife Europe. That’s an organization that she co-founded a few years ago when she was a university student in Vienna. It’s inspired by Students for Life in the U.S. The goal is to educate a new generation on what abortion is and its long-term effects on women and society. She says that many young Europeans advocate blindly for abortion rights without even knowing what an abortion is.
CZERNIN: So we also recognize the importance of university students to know basic facts about biology, ethics. When does life start? What happens in abortion or what are the consequences of abortion? And so on.
Czernin says currently there’s no room in the public square to question abortion rights without getting attacked, so the focus is on education.
CZERNIN: If you go on the street a lot of people say, yeah it’s a woman’s choice, they know this by heart. But if you ask them what an abortion is, they don’t know what an abortion is. ‘Oh yeah, 12 weeks’, somehow it’s a clump of cells and all these things. And the idea is not so much to discuss theories, but just to educate, because it's a matter of fact. It's a fact that it's alive. It's a fact that women have an 81 percent higher risk of of getting depressed from having an abortion. It is a fact and we have those studies, right?
ProLife Europe is only three years old. But in that time—and despite COVID lockdowns—35 chapter clubs have sprung up in countries across Europe. They continue to grow. When members couldn’t gather for lectures or movie nights during COVID, the groups went out in the streets to talk to people.
CZERNIN: And it's very interesting to see how people actually want to speak about it. We don't want to convince anyone. We just want to make questions, make people think.
Czernin says all of ProLife Europe’s members realized abortion was wrong because someone gave them information that changed their minds. They want to do that for others. Czernin says it’s surprising how open people are to the conversation.
CZERNIN: People want to speak about it because it's also a huge taboo. There's there are a lot of women who suffered from like past abortions who want to speak about it, later in life. I would say the majority of people actually can discuss and a lot of people are open. We have the experience that every time we do the outreach, we have a lot of people changing their hearts and minds and understanding and wanting to know more about it.
That’s close to Czernin’s heart because of her own experience. She grew up in Portugal in a pro-life family and recalls the debate around legalizing abortion there when she was 14.
CZERNIN: But I do remember when I went to to to university, I got a friend of mine who got pregnant and she wanted to do an abortion. And I remember talking with her.
Although heartbroken for her friend, Czernin didn’t have the right information to offer. Later, when she got involved in the pro-life movement, she was determined to provide those resources to others.
Since she started working with ProLife Europe, Czernin has had post-abortive friends come to her for help.
CZERNIN: And one of them told me, Maria, I didn't speak with anyone but you. Because you cannot go to a friend if you know that your friend is pro-choice, you're like, Oh, it's your rights. Like, why should you complain about the rights you were given?
Those friends were struggling with the consequences of abortion in a society that pretends those consequences don’t exist. Having witnessed the aftermath, Czernin talks about the “huge wound” abortion has caused in society. She believes that’s part of what is behind rampant mental health problems in Europe.
CZERNIN: And I'm convinced that there are so many people who are depressive, that I think it's like connected with abortion. There is so there is a huge degradation of society, people are lonely, and I believe it's connected, because if you think we don't have an image for what abortion is doing in our society, but I just think it's behind closed doors, white walls. No one sees it. Girls come in, girls go out. They don't talk about it with their friends.
To break the taboo of discussion, ProLife Europe wants to ramp up efforts to make educational materials available in national languages across Europe. American pro-life organization LiveAction has authorized use of their videos, but they need to be translated. That takes time and money.
ProLife Europe also wants to coordinate more events with other pro life movements across the continent.
CZERNIN: We have so many people asking, Hey, how can I be part? It has been a challenge also to know…What are our priorities also right now as an organization and because we want to do everything, we want to do so much.
What once seemed impossible—the advancement of legal protections for the unborn—is becoming a reality in the U.S. That is inspiring Europeans to continue challenging entrenched ideas to make Europe more pro life.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Jenny Lind Schmitt.
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NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Tuesday, May 10th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Nick Eicher.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Here’s WORLD commentator Steve West on the medicine each of us needs.
STEVE WEST, COMMENTATOR: My 89-year old aunt became delusional before she died. First, there were the boys walking around on her roof and whispering under her window at night. Then there were gypsies in the trees, a girl with a bandanna, weeping. Finally, “wharf” rats slinked through her side yard, “big as a cat.”
When I told her that no one else had seen such things, that maybe it’s her imagination, she could only say “Well, I’m not crazy.” After a couple phone calls at 3:00 a.m. and 26 calls to 9-1-1 in a month and a half, I was pretty sure she was experiencing the effects of dementia. Yet, thankfully, things died down. She didn’t made any more emergency calls, telling me she had concluded the police were incompetent. She stopped bothering the good neighbors, as “those people” think she needs to be “evaluated.” Yet for all her bellicosity, I think she’s just afraid. Phantoms have come to roost in her mind.
I doubt that anyone lives life without at least one fear, without some episode of fear. Whatever their focus—death, financial ruin, or a nameless anxiety—every fear seeks to occupy our every waking moment, fill even our dreams. If we dwell upon them, they grow, hulking over our day, a shadow over every move. In its worst case, as with my aunt, fear actually takes shape. It becomes a visible, audible phantom that haunts, preoccupies and lives on the edge of consciousness, waiting for nightfall to manifest itself.
Better let Christ be the one who haunts. Jesus says that “perfect love casts out fear.” The only antidote for fear is a steely focus on Jesus. As the Louvin Brothers concluded in their classic song, “Weapon of Prayer,”—“Still the helpful hand above, on the weapon made of love/And against him none on earth prevail.” You cannot fight fear dead on or banish it with words. We fight it with Word and prayer, by going to the One who has already won.
I have been ravaged by fear before. In fact, I don't have to think long to find something worth fearing. Oddly enough, on occasion I have felt a sharp pang of fear on behalf of civilization itself, that everything that mostly functions will suddenly collapse, that we will drown in debt, that a hate-mongering enemy will unleash a dirty bomb on us, that the ice caps will melt and our great cities drown. Possible, yes, but unlikely, a seed planted by the sower of fear, the destroyer of all that is good, true, and beautiful.
Word and prayer. A focus on Jesus. But there is one other thing: remembering His faithfulness in life events. Going back to the memorials we set up in memory for when God delivered us from some peril of body or mind. When in His good providence He allowed suffering and yet drew us to Himself and delivered us in the midst of it. The Psalmist repeatedly remembered God's past faithfulness as an assurance of His faithfulness to come. So too should we. As Jo Kadlecek says, “[F]ear is simply a spiritual memory lapse, a forgetting that God loves a human's soul enough to protect her.”
The boys are on the roof. They whisper outside our window. There are gypsies in the trees. But Christ slays the phantoms of this world. They die in His light. Feed on Christ and starve the phantoms.
I’m Steve West.
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Tomorrow: the primaries. We’ll check in on some of the recent political contests and talk about what they might mean for the November elections.
And, a new denomination. We’ll find out why some Methodist churches are forming their own group.
That and more tomorrow.
I’m Nick Eicher.
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