MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!
CPAC is over and Donald Trump was the star. The question now is whether the Republican party is still his.
NICK EICHER, HOST: That’s ahead on Washington Wednesday.
Also World Tour.
Plus the story of a man who was the sole survivor of his firefighting crew.
And WORLD commentator Janie B. Cheaney on what happens when we thumb our noses at divine design.
REICHARD: It’s Wednesday, March 3rd. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.
EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!
REICHARD: Now here’s Kent Covington with today’s news.
KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Biden: Vaccines for all Americans by end of May » President Biden says all Americans will soon have access to coronavirus vaccines.
BIDEN: We are now on track to have enough vaccine supply for every adult in America by the end of May.
Speaking from the White House, the president said in an effort to overcome production delays, Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine manufacturing facilities will now operate 24 hours a day.
Biden also praised the company and its biggest competitor Merck for being “good corporate citizens.”
The rival companies are teaming up to help ramp up supplies of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.
BIDEN: This is the type of collaboration between companies we saw in World War II.
Merck will manufacture supplies of the J&J vaccine at its facilities.
FBI chief testifies about Capitol siege » Testifying on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, FBI Director Chris Wray condemned the January riot at the U.S. Capitol.
WRAY: That attack, that siege was criminal behavior, plain and simple. And it’s behavior that we, the FBI, view as domestic terrorism.
He also pushed back against claims by Capitol law enforcement officials that they had not been warned about threats to the Capitol building.
Senators grilled Wray about a Jan. 5 report from a field office warning of online posts foreshadowing a “war” in Washington the following day. The posts described “glass breaking” and “doors being kicked in.”
Capitol Police leaders say they never saw that report. But Wray said the FBI did share it even though the information was raw and unverified.
WRAY: In addition to the email, in addition to the verbal briefing at the command post, the information was posted on what we call LEAP, which is a law enforcement portal, which is made available to law enforcement not just here in the national capital region but all around the country.
Wray also said domestic threats have been growing for years and that the FBI has been sounding alarms about those mounting threats.
U.S. sanctions Russian officials, businesses over Navalny poisoning » The White House on Tuesday announced new sanctions against Russian officials and businesses. The move is in response to the nerve-agent attack on opposition leader Alexei Navalny and his jailing after he returned from medical treatment in Germany.
Press Secretary Jen Psaki said the sanctions will start with seven senior members of the Russian government and…
PSAKI: An expansion of sanctions under the chemical and biological weapons and warfare elimination act, new export restriction on items that could be used for biological agent and chemical production and visa restrictions.
The European Union has also announced actions against Russia.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov immediately fired back. He claimed that officials in Germany hid facts about Navalny’s medical treatment and that Western governments are lying about Russia’s guilt.
LAVROV (translated): Instead of honest collaboration and not hiding they start to punish us. This doesn’t bring any credit to those who take decisions, and we will surely respond.
The U.S. intelligence community concluded with high confidence that Russian agents carried out nerve agent attack against Navalny.
At least 15 dead after truck hits SUV in Calif. » At least 15 people are dead after a semitruck crashed into an SUV carrying more than two-dozen people in Southern California.
The crash occurred Tuesday 11 miles north of the Mexico border.
Judy Cruz with El Centro Regional Medical Center said 28 people were inside the SUV.
CRUZ: Fourteen were dead on the scene. Four of those patients were flown out from the scene to Desert Hospital.
The SUV was a Ford Expedition that would typically seat eight to nine people. It drove into the path of the semitruck, which slammed into the left side of the vehicle.
The Border Patrol is helping investigate the crash. A Border Patrol official said “it was an unusual number of people in an SUV, but we don’t know who they were.” He added that they could have been farmworkers.
Boy Scouts file bankruptcy reorganization plan » The Boy Scouts of America has submitted a bankruptcy reorganization plan that would set aside hundreds of millions for abuse victims. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin reports.
KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: The Boy Scouts filed the plan this week in Delaware bankruptcy court.
It would place $300 million into a trust fund for abuse victims.
The organization says it needs to keep $75 million for operating costs, including local troops and national adventure camps. But under the plan, any unrestricted cash above that amount would also go into the trust.
To further contribute to the fund, the BSA has agreed to part with its collection of Norman Rockwell paintings. It would also sell a warehouse facility in North Carolina, a Scouting University facility in Texas, and other properties.
But Paul Mones, an attorney representing hundreds of former Scouts, was not impressed. He called the plan “woefully and tragically inadequate.”
More than 95,000 sexual abuse claims have been filed in the bankruptcy case.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.
I’m Kent Covington.
Straight ahead: Is the GOP still the party of Trump?
Plus, Janie B. Cheaney on disappearing women.
This is The World and Everything in It.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Wednesday, the 3rd of March, 2021.
Thank you for joining us for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.
NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. First up: Is the GOP still the party of Trump?
This past weekend, the former president delivered his first public speech since he left office. He spoke at CPAC, the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, Sunday.
It was the first time CPAC gathered outside the Washington, DC area.
AUDIO: [Crowd sound]
The CPAC crowd had both ideological and practical reasons to meet in Florida. Practically, D.C. is still under a strict Covid lockdown and Florida is less so and that allowed for a live audience. Ideologically, that’s the policy conservatives tend to prefer.
So when Trump took the stage, the crowd went wild.
TRUMP: Well thank you very much and hello CPAC. Do you miss me yet? Do you miss me?
Trump supporters packed the room, but clearly the GOP is riven. Former Vice President Mike Pence declined an invitation to this year’s event. As did Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney. They were no-shows.
REICHARD: That raises the question: is it still Trump’s party?
And what role will he play in the GOP’s future?
Here now to help us tackle those questions is Professor Mark Caleb Smith. He directs the Center for Political Studies at Cedarville University. Professor, good morning!
MARK CALEB SMITH, GUEST: Good morning. It’s good to be with you.
REICHARD: Well, the CPAC conference is always a who’s who lineup of Republican speakers. But as we said, no Pence, no McConnell, no Cheney. Also no former ambassador Nikki Haley. What do you make of their absence?
SMITH: I don’t think there’s any question that there’s a split within the Republican party. It may not be as severe as we think, looking at it from the outside, but I think at that elite level—we talk elites, we’re talking about office holders, donors, and party officials—there are still some splits that are operating right there. And so they’re going to have to paper over those splits if they hope to move forward. But I should say, this isn’t unusual in some ways. Every time you have a losing presidential campaign, there’s always a good bit of angst within a party to figure out what went wrong and what they can improve in the future. But what we’re looking at right now does feel a little different than that.
REICHARD: There was never any doubt that Donald Trump would be the star of CPAC this year. Is that an accurate snapshot of where he stands with Republican voters overall? Or I guess I’ll ask it this way: Is the GOP still the party of Trump?
SMITH: I think that it is. For all intents and purposes, it is still the party of Trump. I think when you look at the polling data right now, the president still enjoys a really wide amount of approval within the party. And we also see at the national level very few—on the whole—very few office holders are willing to publicly challenge the president. Now, there are some notable exceptions, of course. And we saw some of that happen during the second impeachment trial. But on the whole they’ve been unified behind the president and they’re willing to support the president, it looks like, as he moves toward a potential 2024 run.
REICHARD: On Sunday, Trump called out Republicans by name who either voted to impeach him or who have criticized him since the January 6th assault on the U.S. Capitol.
A couple of questions for you about that: What will come of those lawmakers? Do you think this rift within the party will continue?
SMITH: In some ways I think that’s the most important question moving forward. So, we do clearly have a rump of the party, so to speak, that is resisting Donald Trump even within Congress itself. We could talk about Ben Sasse from Nebraska, Liz Cheney from Wyoming, Kinsinger from Illinois. There are enough of them to where they matter to some degree to the former president. If they continue to run and seek office—some of those are House members, they’re going to be running in 2022, some of those are Senators who will be coming up a little bit later—if they seek those offices and if they survive, then I think you might see more of that division take place publicly. However, if in 2022, someone like Liz Cheney, for example, fails to win reelection in Wyoming, then I think that will cement, for sure, moving forward that it is Donald Trump’s party. So, I suspect the divisions are going to continue at least for a period of time. There are a lot of unknown variables floating out there: how are donors reacting, what does the legal process look like for the former president. But, right now, I think the division’s going to go forward.
REICHARD: Professor, I want to give you two sides of an argument here as to whether the winning path for the GOP is to embrace Trump or not.
We’ll start with South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham. Here’s what he said a couple weeks ago:
GRAHAM: To the Republican party, if you want to win and stop a socialist agenda, we need to work with President Trump. We can’t do it without him. And all I can say is that the most potent force in the Republican party is President Trump. We need Trump-plus.
REICHARD: He says “Trump-plus” is the GOP path to victory. Professor, what do you say?
SMITH: I don’t think that that’s going to work. And let me be very clear here. Certainly President Trump is the most dominant force within the party. He brings the most energy, the most enthusiasm within the party, however I think for the Republican party to be truly competitive in national elections—we’re talking about winning the presidency, winning the popular vote potentially, which they have not done for a long time—they’re going to need all those components working together in unison. So you’re going to need the Republicans who are lukewarm on Trump or even anti-Trump. You’re going to need the Republicans who are pro-Trump, and they’re going to have to come together somehow to function collectively if you want the party to move forward in its most effective way. So, I don’t think the pro-Trump strategy is the best one and I’m not sure the anti-Trump strategy is the best one. There’s going to have to be some sort of middle road that can bring the two sides together.
REICHARD: Let me get your reaction to the remarks of another GOP senator, Louisiana’s Bill Cassidy. He noted that Republicans just lost the White House and both chambers of Congress, and here’s what he told CNN:
CASSIDY: We have got to win in two years. We’ve got to win in four years. We’ll do that by speaking to the issues that are important to the American people, not by putting one person on a pedestal and making that person our focal point. If we idolize one person, we will lose. And that’s kind of clear from the last election.
So professor, you touched on that before, do you think he has a point?
SMITH: I do. I think that he has a point. I think that if the party moves forward with Trump as its focal point, it’s going to be divided. The division may not be massive. It’ll be big enough for them to have a hard time winning national elections. At the same time, if the party repudiates Trump, if there’s a massive movement within the party to repudiate him and try to move in a different reaction, we’re probably looking at tens of millions of voters who might want to go in a different direction at that point. It may not be another party, but it may just be simply staying home and not coming out to vote. And so if the goal is to maximize the Republican party moving forward, it has to somehow figure out how to keep all of those pieces together. I’m not sure it’s possible. But I think that’s the best approach that the party can take.
REICHARD: Now, of course, the big moment on Sunday came when Trump teased another possible White House bid in 2024.
We can’t predict this far out whether he’ll run again. But what do you suppose will be the factors that will ultimately persuade him to run or not run again?
SMITH: I think the first one is what does the legal process look like surrounding him. So we know there are investigations in New York. They’re looking into his tax records. We think there’s going to be an investigation out of Georgia that looks into his efforts to maybe pressure Georgia state officials to deliver votes to him. If those kinds of investigations yield fruit, and we end up with the president being prosecuted, indicted, maybe even convicted, then I have to think that that really undermines, if not destroys, his ability to move forward in 2024. If he can somehow survive those, which I think there’s a strong likelihood that he could, then he’s going to have to prove that he can still raise money. From everything that I hear, and I’m not going to claim to be super, super plugged into the Republican elite group of people, but from everything that I’m hearing, there’s a significant number of donors in the Republican party who are a little bit squeamish about President Trump after January 6th. If there are enough of those people collectively who are just not interested in donating more to President Trump, then his candidacy could die on the vine before we get to 2024. So, there’s still a lot of things to play out. Like you said, we can’t really predict for sure, but I think he has a reasonable chance to do it. That doesn’t mean it’s going to happen.
REICHARD: Mark Caleb Smith teaches political science and directs the Center for Political Studies at Cedarville University. Mark, thank you for your time today.
SMITH: It’s always my pleasure. Thank you.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: WORLD Tour with Africa reporter Onize Ohikere.
ONIZE OHIKERE, REPORTER: Nigerian children kidnapped, returned—We start today here in Africa.
AUDIO: [Sound of voices]
Nearly 300 girls kidnapped from a boarding school in northwestern Nigeria on Friday returned home Tuesday.
AUDIO: [Girl speaking Hausa]
This girl said the kidnappers forced them to walk a long way and threatened to kill anyone who tried to escape. No group has claimed responsibility but officials are blaming bandits motivated by hopes of getting a ransom.
Officials urged parents not to use the kidnapping as an excuse to keep their children out of school. But parents say the government is not doing enough to keep kids safe.
This is the third school attack in Nigeria in the last three months.
Bandits kidnapped another group of students several hundred miles to the south nearly two weeks earlier. They were freed on Friday. Officials deny paying a ransom for the 38 victims, but security experts doubt those claims.
Former French president convicted—Next we go to Europe.
AUDIO: [Sounds of camera shutters, “Mr. Sarkozy! Mr. Sarkozy!”]
A French court has convicted former President Nicolas Sarkozy of corruption. The judge found he conspired with a friend to convince another judge to share information about a legal investigation.
Sarkozy’s lawyer says he plans to appeal.
AUDIO: [Woman speaking French]
The judge ordered Sarkozy to serve three years, with two of those suspended. He can serve the remaining year at home with electronic monitoring.
The conviction could put an end to Sarkozy’s political ambitions. Supporters had hoped he would run again in 2022.
Political unrest roils Armenia—Next we go east to Armenia.
AUDIO: [Shouting crowd]
Dueling rallies filled the capital Yerevan on Monday. Supporters of Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan faced off with crowds demanding his resignation.
Unrest in the country stems from frustration over a peace deal signed in November with neighboring Azerbaijan. It ended six weeks of fighting over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region. But it required Armenia to give up control of large swaths of territory it held for more than 25 years.
The former Soviet state has strong ties with Europe, but Russia still holds a strong sway over its leaders. Armenia relies on Moscow’s financial and military support.
Pope Francis to visit Iraq—And finally, we end today in the Middle East.
AUDIO: [Sounds of men talking, working]
Iraq is preparing for a first-ever papal visit at the end of the week. Despite security and pandemic concerns, Pope Francis will arrive on Friday and stay for four days. He called the trip important for encouraging the country’s Christian communities, among the oldest in the world.
Louis Raphael Sako, heads the Chaldean Catholic Church.
SAKO: Christians, he will encourage them to persevere, to stay persevere, and also to rebuild the trust with their neighbors.
The pope will visit several major cities, including Baghdad, Erbil, and Mosul. Officials in the Nineveh plains are working to find an open-air venue for him to hold mass because the area does not have a cathedral or stadium large enough.
Many of the country’s churches remain in ruins after ISIS attacks.
That’s this week’s World Tour. I’m Onize Ohikere in Abuja, Nigeria.
AUDIO: Let’s all go to the lobby to get ourselves a treat.
NICK EICHER, HOST: Maybe you remember that old movie theater jingle.
Well, a theater chain called The Kinopolis group is bringing the lobby to you—if your movie habits are forever altered by aversion to crowded spaces.
Kinopolis really needs to keep concessions revenue rolling in, even as some of its theaters are still closed and others are sparsely attended.
So it’s testing home deliveries of freshly popped movie popcorn and other concession treats.
REICHARD: Oooh! Milk Duds!? I’m in.
The company’s CEO says an early test in Canada “looks rather promising.”
Promising, we imagine, for one bottom line if not any other.
It’s The World and Everything in It.
NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Wednesday, March 3rd. You’re listening to WORLD Radio and we’re so glad you are!
Good morning. I’m Nick Eicher.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Coming next on The World and Everything in It: survival and recovery.
In 2013, a wildfire in Yarnell, Arizona took the lives of 19 Granite Mountain Hotshot firefighters. It was the deadliest day for emergency responders since 9-11.
Only one crew member survived. WORLD’s Sarah Schweinsberg brings us his story.
SARAH SCHWEINSBERG, REPORTER: From a young age, Brendan McDonough dreamed of being a firefighter. He wanted to protect his community.
But a difficult home life and bad choices made that dream seem out of his reach.
MCDONOUGH: At a pretty young age, about 13, I started using substances to just cope with life problems. I just continued to fuel that addiction throughout high school.
After highschool, McDonough couldn’t shake his addiction. He went to college, flunked out of class and got in trouble with the law. He spent a week in a jail. At the same time, he found out his girlfriend was pregnant.
He wanted to provide for his new daughter. But who would take a chance on hiring a guy on probation with a felony?
MCDONOUGH: I applied for jobs and got denied. I was like, well, I guess I’m just supposed to live this lifestyle of using and, you know, trying to hustle money.
Then he heard about some openings on the Granite Mountain Hotshot crew.
MCDONOUGH: Hot shots are kind of just an elite branch of the wildfire community. We’re fighting fire with fire, we’re fighting with chainsaws, hand tools, helicopters and communication with them.
But Brendan McDonough didn’t think he could do something so physically demanding. He was skinny and out of shape and still trying to detox. When he pulled up to the fire station to turn in his application, he almost kept going.
MCDONOUGH: And instantly I think of like, I’ve got to support my daughter. And Eric Marsh, the Superintendent catches me at the door. And he says, We’ve got one open slot, come sit down and do an interview.
And I tell him I want to be the dad that I didn’t have and I want to change my life. And so he’s kind of sitting there looking around and he goes, all right. If you can keep up, you’ve got a job. But the moment you quit, you’re done.
As a member of the Granite Mountain Hotshots, McDonough spent half the year fighting fires all over the country. The crew became his family.
MCDONOUGH: Just some of the most beautiful country I’ve ever been in with some of the most amazing human beings that were fathers, believers, community members, so much more than just a firefighter.
Halfway through his third fire season, the crew deployed to Yarnell, Arizona.
Lightning had sparked a blaze in the hills around the town.
MCDONOUGH: We get our debriefing. We get hiked in. And we get to the top of the mountain…
Superintendent Eric Marsh made McDonough the crew’s lookout. So McDonough took a position further down the mountain where he could take weather measurements and watch the fire’s movement.
By late afternoon, the wind—and the fire—started to shift.
MCDONOUGH: I’m starting to feel and see these wind shifts, kind of come back in my face, so I’m relaying to my superintendent this fire starts moving in a different direction.
The fire started moving toward McDonough’s position.
MCDONOUGH: And my captain radios down and he says I think it is about time for you to get out of there.
Another hotshot crew was working near McDonough. So he jumped in with them and headed down into town to help save threatened homes.
AUDIO: [Sound of firefighting]
In the meantime, the Granite Mountain Hotshots also decided to hike down from their position on a ridge toward a ranch outside of Yarnell. Crews had dubbed the ranch a fire safety zone.
But as the crew descended, they lost sight of the blaze. They couldn’t see the fire was growing quicker than anyone predicted and heading straight for them.
AUDIO: [Sound of fire]
All of a sudden, the fire trapped them in a basin between ridges.
AUDIO: Granite Mountain Hotshots, we are in front of the flaming front!
Down in town, McDonough heard Superintendent Marsh over the radio…
AUDIO: Our escape route has been cut off. We are preparing a deployment sight.
The crew members were deploying their aluminum fire shelter sacks. That’s a firefighters’ last resort.
MCDONOUGH: I’m sitting there thinking to myself, what’s going on? How did this happen? This is not looking good.
For what felt like hours, McDonough waited for a helicopter to locate the hotshots. When it did, the news was devastating. The fire had burned too hot and for too long.
MCDONOUGH: And he comes on the radio, and he goes I’ve got 19 confirmed and it clicked with me that they just passed away. There’s nothing more that I could do but I felt like I should have done more. I felt like I should have been there.
Survivor’s guilt overwhelmed and crippled McDonough. He turned to drinking. He couldn’t understand why God spared him.
MCDONOUGH: Like, why couldn’t you have just taken the addict?
McDonough became suicidal. He felt like he couldn’t keep going. But a local pastor refused to give up on him.
MCDONOUGH: A Pastor kept meeting with me. And he’s like, hey, Brendan, what? What’s your hang up? I said, I’ve done some things that I’m not proud of in my past. I feel like I’ve got to get my life in order before I’m ready to commit to being a follower of Jesus. And he goes, I think you I think you’ve got it wrong, man. Jesus came for the broken. He came for the lost, he left the 99 for the one.
Four years after the Yarnell Hill fire, Brendan McDonough gave his life to God.
Nine months into sobriety, McDonough sensed God telling him he needed to open a Christian addiction and mental health center. He couldn’t see how he was equipped, but he obeyed.
MCDONOUGH: Alright, God, you’ve gotten me this far, and I was pretty messed up. So if you could do that, I know you could get me through to this treatment center that you’re calling me to do.
Holdfast Recovery opened two-and-a-half years ago. McDonough says watching God heal other people is helping him heal too.
MCDONOUGH: He’s continued to help me change and evolve and to get married, to have a third child. And to continue to serve others in a different capacity that I never could have imagined.
And he knows he will be with his Granite Mountain brothers again soon.
MCDONOUGH: I know this time on this earth is a very small blimp. I know I’ll see them again and be in their presence, but most importantly, in God’s presence and his love. In the meantime, stay present, stay focused and be that be that man that God intended me to be.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Sarah Schweinsberg.
MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Wednesday, March 3rd. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.
NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. WORLD commentator Janie B. Cheaney now on what happens when people discard distinctions that God ordained.
JANIE B. CHEANEY, COMMENTATOR: For years, we’ve lamented the disappearing man—in the family, the university campus, and in responsible positions. As if men no longer know how to be men.
What if women disappear too?
One of my relatives (I’ll call her Anna), has overcome many of the obstacles of a single mom to establish a successful business. About two years ago her youngest, a girl in her early teens, decided she would be much happier as a boy. Probably hoping for some rational, informed dialogue, Anna took her daughter to the family doctor. Instead, the doctor suggested testosterone treatments. Anna said, “No way.”
The following months were tense when they weren’t fiery. But then the girl just let it drop. They’ve had other issues, but no more trans talk.
That story may be more the exception than the rule. Back in the late 60s so-called “transsexualism” was a side show of the sexual revolution. Abortion, no-fault divorce, co-habitation, and single parenthood dominated the main stage. Now that those former transgressions are considered normal, trans ideology emerges again, this time as the main event. Only a few years ago it affected mostly males, but now girls have taken the lead with “sudden onset gender dysphoria”—that is, young teens who had never expressed anxiety about being girls, now declaring themselves to be something else.
Abigail Shrier, in her book Irreversible Damage, details how trans culture influences their dissatisfaction. In a podcast interview, Shrier speculated on how such madness could take root. It’s not so much that these girls wanted to be men, she said. It was more that they didn’t want to be women.
What, exactly, is so unappealing about being a woman? Might it be that feminism, while opening up opportunities for women, has in the process devalued womanhood? I recall a radio promotion for the Girl Scouts, over 20 years ago, that made the organization sound like a support group for an oppressed minority. Elsewhere in the LGBTQ spectrum, trends are even more striking. Last summer, data analyst David Shor conducted a private poll that indicated around 30 percent of American women under 25 now identify as lesbian, bisexual, or transgender.
That statistic doesn’t bode well for the postmillennial generation. Generations, after all, depend on men and women being fathers and mothers, preferably in the same household. The sexual revolution’s intense focus on personal satisfaction has resulted in massive dissatisfaction working its poisonous way through marriage, parenthood, sexual attraction, puberty—finally striking at the root of identity in a human body: “male and female He created them.”
If God is gracious, “sudden-onset” may just as suddenly fade away. I certainly hope so, for the sake of thousands of vulnerable girls. But the mess we’ve made of sex and gender will take a miracle to untangle.
I’m Janie B. Cheaney.
NICK EICHER, HOST: Tomorrow: doing business with Bitcoin. Digital currencies once consigned to the back alleys of the internet are now hitting Main Street. We’ll tell you why.
And, we’ll meet a man making new music with old guitars.
That and more tomorrow.
I’m Nick Eicher.
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