The World and Everything in It: March 28, 2025

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning! Today on Culture Friday, a cultural shift to the right meets a church unready to lead

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also: Just-war thinking applied to deportation policy, and the danger of outsourcing kids’ mental health to AI.John Stonestreet is standing by.

Later:

TAYLOR: That wasn’t a distraction. It was a murder! But what if there’s another one today? How often do people get murdered around here?

Arts and Culture Editor Collin Garbarino reviews a quirky new murder mystery.

And we’ll end the day, and the week, with your listener feedback.

BROWN: It’s Friday, March 28th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

BROWN: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Ukraine talks latest » British Prime Minister Kier Starmer says Moscow is slow-walking Ukraine peace talks.

STARMER: President Trump has rightly called them out for dragging their feet, and we agreed here in Paris today that it's clear the Russians are filibustering, they're playing games, and they're playing for time. It is a classic from the Putin playbook.

Also, during a summit in Paris Thursday, France and Britain said they're prepared to send troops to Ukraine to defend an eventual peace deal with Russia. But … a lot of other countries in Europe are not anxious to take part in that effort.

MACRON: [Speaking French]

But French President Emmanual Macron said Europe is united in the belief that Ukraine’s army must be strong and well equipped for the day after the war ends.

Allies at the summit also agreed that efforts to squeeze Russia's economy must continue.

Moscow demanded the end of certain sanctions as part of a maritime Black Sea ceasefire deal.

Iran responds to Trump on nuke talks » Iran has sent an official response to President Trump in response to his recent letter from Tehran seeking to jump start talks over the country’s nuclear program. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has more.

KRISTEN FLAVIN: Iran sent the response through the government of Jordan, signaling a readiness to restart nuclear talks indirectly through a third party.

The response came as Trump levied new sanctions on Iran as part of its “maximum pressure” campaign. It also came as the U.S. began moving bombers into the region ahead of a 2-month deadline President Trump had given Iran to come back to the bargaining table.

Trump, during his first term in the White House, pulled the plug on an Obama-era nuclear deal that he said did nothing to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuke.

For WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

Hamas threatens Gaza demonstrators » It's becoming an increasingly familiar sound:

SOUND: [Air raid sirens]

Air raid sirens blared over Jerusalem again yesterday, as the Israeli military says it intercepted two missiles Houthi rebels launched from Yemen.

No casualties reported.

Elsewhere in Jerusalem:

NETANYAHU: Thank you for standing with Israel. Thank you for standing with the Jewish people. Thank you for standing with the forces of civilization against the forces of barbarism.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu there addressing a group of European leaders in the holy city for a conference on anti-Semitism.

And in Gaza:

SOUND: [Palestinian protests]

Militant groups are warning some Palestinians to stop protesting against Hamas or face punishment.

In a statement, they threatened to treat those in Gaza speaking out against Hamas, just as they treat Israelis.

MS-13 gang leader arrest » A 24-year-old man from El Salvador faced a judge in Virginia on Thursday. But authorities say this wasn’t just any illegal immigrant. They say  Henry Josue Villa Toro Santos is a top leader of the violent MS-13 gang.

The FBI worked with the ATF, ICE, local and state police on the arrest. FBI Director Kash Patel:

PATEL:  This task force was stood up one month ago. In one month the brave men and women on this task force from state, local, and federal authorities have arrested 342 criminals in the state of Virginia alone.

Authorities charged him with being an  illegal alien in possession of a firearm. But that was expected to be only the first of many charges.

Tesla attack suspect » Las Vegas police have arrested a man in connection with the firebombing of a Tesla collision center.

 He is 36-year-old Paul Kim, and he’s now behind bars facing more than a dozen felony charges. Las Vegas Assistant Sheriff Dori Koren said police were able to search his apartment and vehicles connected to him.

KOREN:  We were also able to collect the buccal swab for DNA to be able to compare that to the DNA that we recovered from the scene.

A video of that attack showed a person dressed in black using Molotov cocktails to damage at least five Tesla vehicles with one of the unexploded devices left in a car. FBI Special Agent Spencer Evans said Thursday:

EVANS:  There's nothing courageous or noble about firebombing private property and terrorizing your local community. The self-righteous mob that's cheering you on today to commit acts of violence on their behalf will leave you high and dry and forget about you tomorrow.

A string of violent attacks has coincided with protests against Tesla CEO Elon Musk over his work heading up DOGE for President Trump.

Stefanik nomination withdrawn  » The White House has pulled Congresswoman Elise Stefanik’s nomination to be U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. The decision came after her confirmation had been stalled over concerns about Republicans’ incredibly slim majority in the House.

The president said in a social media post that it is “essential that we maintain EVERY Republican Seat in Congress.”

GOP Sen. John Cornyn weighed in yesterday:

CORNYN:  Elise Stefanik, uh, should be congratulated by putting, uh, uh, the greater good ahead of her personal ambition.

Stefanik’s nomination advanced out of committee in late January, but House Republicans’ razor-thin margin kept her ultimate confirmation in a state of purgatory for the last several months.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: John Stonestreet is standing by for Culture Friday.  Plus, your listener feedback for the month of March.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Friday the 28th of March. 

Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

It’s Culture Friday. Joining us now is John Stonestreet, president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast. Good morning!

JOHN STONESTREET: Good morning.

EICHER: John, a recent article by Andrew Walker has gotten a lot of traction on our website—he argues that while the culture seems to be shifting politically to the right, especially among younger people, evangelicalism isn’t prepared to meet the moment. It’s a heady article, challenging, and tough to summarize, but I’ll put a link to it in the transcript for the listener who wants to dive in.

But Walker’s argument is we’ve emphasized grace for so long that we’ve forgotten to affirm creational truths—things like moral order, authority, family, even the goodness of being male or female.

So here’s the question for you:

If the culture really is starting to rediscover some of these creational truths, why do you think the church seems so reluctant to affirm them?

STONESTREET: Well, it’s a good question, I think that the idea that the culture is starting to rediscover creational truths might be an optimistic way to say it. I think what we have seen instead is that the system’s not working, so to speak. The alternatives are actually worse.

I think there’s maybe a more pragmatic realization than anything else.

But to your question about why the churches hesitant to speak clearly about them is that, even in the framing from Andrew—which is a good framing about the relationship between nature and grace—these aren’t theological categories that the church even thinks with.

The church really doesn’t think about them by and large—and I’m talking in big generalities here—with that kind of theological precision or that kind of theological aim.

The church is largely pragmatic, and the church is largely gnostic. So there’s not a sense of the church having a Christian worldview, a Christian view of reality that aligns with the revealed truth of scripture.

It has to do with—as Rosaria Butterfield said to my daughter recently in an interview which she was very kind to do for my daughter—the remnants of [Friedrich] Schleiermacher, in which religious experience is what matters and Christian truth doesn’t. Religious experience is what we’re after, and we go after that. Those are the limits of what we can know to be true about Christianity.

Now, of course, many people listening and even many who have bought into that framework wouldn’t know who Schleiermacher is. [Self-aware laughter] But this is the legacy of really bad theological ideas that have taken root in our culture.

I find it somewhere between interesting and bizarre to go back to a conversation we had not too long ago here: when somebody says that what needs to be changed about Christianity is how much they talk about worldview. It’s so ridiculous to me, because the thing that is missing is what we might call “applied theology,” the taking of what is true and thinking about the world through that that lens.

Our problem is not that we’re talking about worldview too much. Maybe we’re not talking about it precisely enough. But the bigger challenge is that we don’t even think about faith in those terms. There’s a whole side of muscle memory, theological muscle memory, that just doesn’t exist.

And then we wonder why—to throw out a good March Madness analogy—we keep missing our free throws at the end of the game.

EICHER: All right, John, I’m utterly helpless on March Madness when NHL playoff dreams are so close to coming true for my hockey team, but I’m going to look up that philosopher and in the transcript, we’ll add a link for the listener who wants to explore  because I need to do the same, frankly.

But I want to shift to something eles we’ve been tracking here: the Trump administration’s deportation of gang members believed to be part of a violent Venezuelan gang. The administration used a founders’-era wartime law, the Alien Enemies Act, to justify the removals.

Even this week we had some reporting from our DC bureau … Josh Schumacher telling us some are cheering the move; others are raising concerns about due process and evidence—especially when things like tattoos are being used as proof of gang affiliation.

So here’s what I’d have you wrestle with: Christians need to err on the side of mercy—but is that always the right instinct when dealing with people who reject law and order? How do we pursue justice that protects rights without going too far: slipping into either harshness on the one extreme—or into naïveté on the other?

STONESTREET: They’re not easy questions, when the cat’s already out of the proverbial bag. But I do think that there are some framings that can bring to the table here. The first is, whose job is this? There’s a difference between the church’s job or the individual citizen’s job and the government’s job.

The church’s job is to be a message of mercy. We certainly we want our state to act mercifully we appropriate, but that’s not the primary virtue by which the government is even supposed to or is able to act. Part of that is that the state struggles to be precise. We know that’s true from TSA security—to fulfill a task government rightly has, which is to protect its citizens.

I find here that the just-war way of thinking helps give us a little bit of precision here. So “just war” basically asked the question, is war ever justified? Then, how should war be carried out in order to be just? The same thing can apply here to deportation or enforcement of borders themselves. Is it ever justified? I think the answer on every single level through the history of the world would be yes—and it is helpful when the government does that, it becomes a source of life and, yes, even mercy to its own citizens.

But then how it is done really matters.

That’s where it gets quite difficult and we’re not dealing with the one size fits all with who we’re concerned about being in the country. So for example, the young man who was a Columbia student, the situation with him is different than the situation with these Venezuelan gang members. It’s obvious, right? If you are a human being, you have a various level of rights that should be respected.

Within the purview of government authority, then it’s like, whether you here legally or illegally extends the amount of rights, the additional rights that you have. If you’re here on a student visa, you have a certain degree of rights. If you’re here in a worker’s permit, you have a different degree of rights or a green card. Then if you’re a citizen, you get them all, right? And that’s a legitimate way to carry this out.

Now, is the government going to make mistakes when you’re dealing with such an incredible, vast problem? The answer is, of course, yes, they’re going to make mistakes, just like even in carrying out a just war when mistakes are made, it’s devastating.

When mistakes are made, people should be held accountable. When mistakes are made, then we should speak up and demand that our government do the right thing and do it in the right way. We shouldn’t expect them to be perfect—and we shouldn’t justify whatever they do as being perfect just because we like what they are doing, right? We have to be able to call those balls and strikes.

I think that that framework can be helpful and looking at something as alarming as violent Venezuelan gangs that clearly a do not have the protections of citizenship or legal status—and then are breaking the law—and there has to be a punishment that is just in order to be merciful and compassionate, and just for the citizens the government is tasked to protect.

BROWN: John, earlier you mentioned your daughter’s conversation with Rosaria Butterfield. I love her! She’s someone with deep wisdom and a clear biblical lens. I’m glad your daughter has access to that, and that’s a far cry from what many students are getting in schools today. The Wall Street Journal reports a case in point: a new program being rolled out in nine districts where middle and high school students can turn to an AI chatbot named “Sonny” for mental health support.

It’s pitched as a kind of well-being companion. But behind the scenes, it’s monitored not by trained professionals—but by twenty-somethings hired mainly for their relatability.

What’s your take on this shift toward AI-based therapy in schools—and what does it say about what kids really need and who’s stepping in to care for them?

STONESTREET: Oh, I well, I am and Rosaria was very gracious on that front, yes. We are very grateful that she didn’t have to contact “Sonny” instead.

Look, I do think there is a role, particularly in health care and even in mental health care for kind of triage work using technology. But the question is, what is it able to do, and what is it not able to do, and where do we go from here? I don’t know whether to be more alarmed by a AI chatbot talking to kids or that it’s backed up by 20 somethings without any sort of professional training. I don’t know what’s worse at this point.

You know, the contrast here for me is living in the state of Colorado, which has incredibly high rates of teen depression and teen suicidality—and has for a long time. It hit a peak prior to COVID. So prior before that pandemic, before the school lockdowns, there was an intervention program that was initiated in the schools of Colorado Springs.

It was so successful that it was featured in national mental health care conferences, as a way to address the depression and suicidality rates among young people. It brought in adults who served as kind of first responders. They would walk around the lunchroom. They would be approved volunteers. They would just look to talk to people, look for signs. It was so successful in terms of what it prevented and how it curbed those numbers that it became something that was celebrated by mental health professional associations.

Then, of course, COVID happened. All of the volunteers were sent home and all the kids were sent home to be in front of their screens—and a lot of progress was lost.

But then the question was, where do you get these adults who would be willing to volunteer to go into back to high school? What’s the answer to that question? There’s only one place in American society where you’re going to find a critical mass of adults willing to care for the next generation. It’s what you’ve always found in history where there is a plague, you find the people that are running into the plague, and there’s just one group, and that is Christians.

In other words, the program that was nationally celebrated as curbing this crisis that was happening in Colorado Springs found volunteers from church. They went to church and, yes, suddenly religion was allowed back in public schools because when you hit rock bottom, you look for all the resources that you can find. It was real people, real Christians stepping in the gap in a real way.

So I would love for us to go back to that program. I would love to rely on that and for Christians to be willing to step up and to play that role and not outsource our responsibility to AI chat bots.

BROWN: I meant to mention, I’ll link up that Wall Street Journal article as well as a piece of commentary on the topic on our site. You’ll find all that, and the ones you mentioned, Nick, in today’s transcript.

At the same time, we don’t want to junk up the program by mentioning a bunch of web links, so let us know whether these are useful to you.

EICHER: John Stonestreet is president of the Colson Center and host of the Breakpoint podcast. John, we’ll see you again in a couple weeks, and we’ll be talking with Katie McCoy. Safe travels, John, thanks!

STONESTREET: Thank you both.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Friday, March 28th.

Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Nick Eicher.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: a new British mystery series making its way across the pond. Arts and culture editor Collin Garbarino now on the show Ludwig.

COLLIN GARBARINO: The novelist Dorothy Sayers—a friend of C.S. Lewis—once said, “Death in particular seems to provide the minds of the Anglo-Saxon race with a greater fund of innocent amusement than any other single subject.” Of course Sayers isn’t saying we English speakers are morbid people who enjoy the pain and tragedy of real death. She's actually talking about a fondness for detective fiction. And arguably nobody does murder mystery better than the Brits.

JOHN TAYLOR: Bit awkward really… Uh… I think I might just have solved a murder. I’ll call you back.

The new series Ludwig is now streaming on Britbox. British sketch comedian David Mitchell plays John Taylor, a reclusive genius who publishes word games and logic puzzles under the pen name “Ludwig.” But his solitary life is upended when he receives a phone call from his sister-in-law Lucy.

LUCY TAYLOR: I need a favor. A big one.

JOHN TAYLOR: How big?

LUCY TAYLOR: Pretty big. It’s going to involve you having to leave the house.

John’s twin brother James has vanished. He worked as a police detective in the city of Cambridge, and Lucy thinks his disappearance must have something to do with a case he was working on. She needs John to impersonate his brother, walk into the police station, and look for clues as to why James took off. But there’s a problem. John gets distracted from the task at hand because he keeps getting called upon to solve crimes.

JOHN TAYLOR: That wasn’t a distraction. It was a murder! But what if there’s another one today? How often do people get murdered around here?

While John falls into a routine of acting like a real policeman, Lucy tries to keep him focused on finding his missing brother.

LUCY TAYLOR: John, you’re not attending another crime scene. This time you say no. Tell them you’re busy.

JOHN TAYLOR: But what if they counter that with, “Busy doing what?”

LUCY TAYLOR: Paperwork. Just use the phrase “mountain of.” You’ve seen these crime shows.

Ludwig comprises six episodes, and the series follows a murder of the week formula. In each episode John is presented with a case that requires him to exercise his puzzle solving skills. His co-workers aren’t totally oblivious to this change in detection technique from the guy they think of as James.

DCS SHAW: I’m reliably informed you went slightly unorthodox on this one, DCI Taylor. Nonetheless, results speak for themselves, so I suppose congratulations are in order.

This series fits easily into the cozy mystery genre. I haven’t seen all the episodes yet, but so far there’s little onscreen violence and the language isn’t objectionable.

The characters are engaging, and the writing is clever. However, Ludwig isn’t really a whodunnit because the show doesn’t always give the audience enough clues to figure out the mystery for themselves. Instead we get snippets of John using his powers of deduction to race through evidence that we’re only partially acquainted with.

JOHN TAYLOR: There’s hardly any chance of you solving it, is there?

Ludwig possesses that dry British wit that reliably turns mildly awkward moments into comedic gold. The supporting cast have their endearing moments, especially Gerran Howell’s portrayal of an easily impressed junior officer who’s so excited to watch John work. But Mitchell’s performance as the socially inept John anchors the show’s comedy. He’s a ball of anxiety who can barely manage to navigate a parking lot without mishap.

JOHN TAYLOR: I’m impersonating a police officer!

LUCY TAYLOR: Yes, but he’s your brother.

JOHN TAYLOR: That’s really not the legal loophole you think it is.

As Dorothy Sayers noted, the murder mystery is arguably the most popular genre of entertainment in both Britain and America. But with new books, series, and movies coming out all the time, it can be difficult to wade through all the options. If you’re a fan of classic murder mystery TV—shows like David Souchet’s Poirot or Tony Shalhoub’s Monk—then you should probably give Ludwig a try. It checks just about all the boxes for enjoyable family entertainment. The mysteries are inventive. The dialogue is amusing. And the cast is exceedingly likable. All that without indulging in the violence and language that seems to characterize most prestige TV.

The murder-mystery genre might feel crowded, but there’s definitely room for this refreshingly funny show.

I’m Collin Garbarino.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Friday, March 28th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. Time now for Listener Feedback for the month of March. We start today with a handful of corrections and clarifications.

BROWN: Yesterday, we misidentified the waterway protected by the terms of the partial ceasefire between Russia and Ukraine. We should have said they covered the Black Sea.

EICHER: On March 25th we mistakenly identified the SS United States as the US Navy’s largest and fastest ship when it was built. It had never been called into duty, and so remained a civilian passenger vessel—and as such, it doesn’t earn that naval distinction.

BROWN: A couple times in recent newscasts we have conflated the Dome of the Rock with the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. The two are distinct buildings.

EICHER: On March 10^th, in our History Book we covered the anniversary of the murder of abortionist David Gunn. In that story we alluded to a statement by Don Treshman—though not by name. In doing so we misidentified him as a leader with Operation Rescue, when in fact he was with Rescue America. We have noted the correction on our transcript.

BROWN: A number of listeners sent in feedback on that story, but here are a few comments from Danielle Versluys, who says she had a front row seat to the sit-ins.

DANIELLE VERSLUYS: The murder of David Gunn was a tragic event in the history of the pro life movement, not only because the murder of every human person is tragic, right, but because it provided fodder for pro-abortion attacks on the integrity and ethics of the pro-life movement as a whole. I am the daughter of a national leader in Operation Rescue, a former national leader in Operation Rescue. And all the leaders that I spoke to said that while there was intense debate in the debate in the 1990s about the question of justifiable homicide, Operation Rescue as an organization, consistently and unequivocally condemned the murder of abortion doctors, I remember that myself being there in person, hearing the discussions, the debate amongst the leaders. I saw and heard from all the leaders regularly, because my father was on the national staff. So they consistently condemned the murder of abortion doctors as an organization.

BROWN: Sticking with History Book feedback. Here’s Abby DeVaughn.

ABBY DEVAUGHN: I wanted to say that the WORLD History Book about Franz Jagerstatter was so inspiring. I especially loved how they had the actors read the letters between Franz and his wife. That really brought the story to life. And I would love to see more world history books in this format in the future. Thank you.

EICHER: Listener Mat Dewing recorded this message for us while exercising on his stationary bike:

MAT DEWING: Hey, Nick and David. Just finished listening to the Monday morning Money Beat. I wanted to send you a little encouragement and say thank you. I can't believe it's been five years. I'm teaching an economics class for a dozen homeschoolers and their weekly assignment is to turn in a paper just reacting to The World and Everything in It segment. It's been great for them. It's been great for our family. I thank God for what you're doing.

EICHER: And I for you, teaching the next generation about economics, and it sounds like you’ll be in good-enough physical health to stay at it for many years!

BROWN: Alan Tonissen left us this recording after my story with musician Nate Moore:

ALAN TONISSEN: My wife and I have been praying and thinking about adopting and what struck me about that story, though there's a lot more I can relate to with Nate, is what Jesus speaks about with the mustard seed, the kingdom of God sprouting from the smallest seeds into a tree and it was so encouraging as we think about adoption to see a Christian family faithful in raising Nate and his impact that God has used not only on the church but now as he mentioned on his brother wanting the joy that he had is quite an encouragement to see just taking those faithful steps to follow God and what he's calling us to and see what he does. So thank you for the story. It was quite an encouragement to me and my family. Blessings.

BROWN: Thanks Alan.

EICHER: A few more light-hearted comments as we end today. The first comes from Matt Brown of Tucson, Arizona:

MATT BROWN: Just wanted to get feedback on Collin Garbarino’s review of Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. I was cracking up and I just said you go boy, you know what they're doing to these old standard movies and themes is pretty pretty tragic. And so it's just good to hear Collin tear it apart and I love his descriptors and I was really good.

BROWN: Our last comment comes from Mathew Wagoner, who got a real kick out of one of our kickers:

MATTHEW WAGONER: Thank you for making me laugh on my drive home from school today. The piece on White Top the Llama: “too legit to spit” – I'm still smiling and laughing. Nick, I just want to say thank you. I don't know the last time I laughed listening to The World and Everything in It, but you made my day today, buddy. Thank you so much. I appreciate you guys and love you all so very much, bye-bye.

EICHER: What time is it?

BROWN: Hammer-time!

EICHER: That one was a layup. And, Myrna, I finally came up with a March Madness metaphor. I think Stonestreet will be pleased.

If he’s still listening: well, thanks to everyone who wrote and called in this month. It’s good to hear from you, even when you disagree with some of our coverage. We’re grateful you take the time to share your thoughts with us.

BROWN: If you have a comment to share you can email editor@wng.org. You can include an audio file attachment to your email and we’ll consider it for air. You can even phone it in at 202-709-9595.

And that’s this month’s Listener Feedback!

NICK EICHER, HOST: Well, it’s time to say thanks to the team members who helped put the program together this week:

Mary Reichard, Carl Trueman, Emma Eicher, Onize Oduah, Jerry Bowyer, Josh Schumacher, Carolina Lumetta, Kim Henderson, Addie Offereins, Mary Muncy, Lauren Dunn, David Bahnsen, Caleb Welde, Cal Thomas, Lauren Canterbury, John Stonestreet, and Collin Garbarino.

Thanks also to our breaking news team: Kent Covington, Lynde Langdon, Steve Kloosterman, Travis Kircher, and Christina Grube.

And thanks to the guys who stay up late to get the program to you early: Carl Peetz and Benj Eicher.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Harrison Watters is Washington producer, senior producer Kristen Flavin is features editor, Paul Butler executive producer, and Les Sillars editor-in-chief.

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Go now in grace and peace.

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