The World and Everything in It: June 29, 2023
Some SBC churches are pulling funding from the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission over a disagreement about the best way to fight abortion; The Supreme Court upholds a law allowing Indian tribes to deny foster parent applications to adopt Native American children; and helping veterans with equine therapy. Plus, South Koreans go back in age, commentary from Cal Thomas, and the Thursday morning news
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MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Good morning! Churches in the United States’ largest protestant denomination don’t agree on the best way to defend unborn life.
RHOADES: The churches, if they don't like something, they can show up to the annual meeting and start to make changes.
PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Also, should a law from 1978 prevent a foster family from adopting a child from an Indian tribe? The Supreme Court weighs in. Plus, helping veterans with PTSD find healing through caring for horses.
HARRELL: I think it’s much easier to talk about your hardest day when you’re brushing a horse versus sitting in a chair looking at each other.
And WORLD commentator Cal Thomas on claims by IRS whistleblowers that Hunter Biden received special treatment by investigators.
BROWN: It’s Thursday, June 29th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.
BUTLER: And I’m Paul Butler. Good morning!
BROWN: Time now for the news. Here’s Kristen Flavin.
KRISTEN FLAVIN, HOST: Bidenomics » President Biden is promising voters that the U.S. economy will get better under an economic strategy he calls “Bidenomics.”
BIDEN: I believe that every American willing to work hard should be able to get a job no matter where they are - in the heartland and small towns and every part of this country to raise their kids on a good paycheck and keep their roots where they grew up. That's Bidenomics.
The president is focusing on the economy in his early campaign for reelection. He spoke in Chicago on Wednesday, criticizing past administrations for believing in trickle-down economics.
But a survey by the Associated Press says only 33 percent of American adults approve of how Biden has handled the economy.
Price pressures on American families have eased over the past year… but inflation is still above the desired two percent rate the Federal Reserve is aiming for.
Hunter Biden » IRS whistleblower Gary Shapley says the Justice Department restricted his investigation of Hunter Biden.
Shapley told CBS News that the probe could have eventually linked President Biden to the case.
Hunter Biden has tentatively agreed to a plea deal for misdemeanor tax charges.
Republican Congressman Mark Alford:
ALFORD: We need to make sure that there is not a two tier justice system, the justice system, the United States of America. That is a danger to our survival as a nation.
Shapley told Fox News stronger felony charges against the younger Biden were dropped, including tax evasion and filing false tax returns.
The Justice Department denies interfering with the investigation.
Sub recovery » The Coast Guard says it has found “likely human remains” in the debris recovered from the Titan submersible vehicle. WORLD’s Josh Schumacher has more.
JOSH SCHUMACHER: The craft imploded while on a voyage to the wreckage of the Titanic in the North Atlantic on June 18.
On Wednesday, workers unloaded the mangled submersible onto a pier at St. Johns, Newfoundland in Canada.
Experts say analyzing the debris could lead to clearer explanations for why the vessel imploded.
All five people on board were killed in the implosion.
For WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.
Wildfire smoke » Smoke from Canadian wildfires hangs thick over Chicago, Detroit, and much of the Great Lakes region.
National Weather Service meteorologist Todd Kluber:
KLUBER: Kind of a stagnant low pressure system over the Great Lakes has drawn that smoke around the western part of the lakes and into, uh, portions of Michigan and Wisconsin, Illinois. And so we’re seeing the effects of that right now coming through the Chicago area.
In Chicago, people with asthma and other health problems are being told to stay inside due to the poor air quality. And in Detroit, officials said Wednesday that no one should go outside.
Another mass of wildfire smoke was drifting through western Pennsylvania and western New York and headed toward the Mid-Atlantic.
Heat wave » Meanwhile, in the southern U.S.:
RESIDENT: It's too hot to be outside as it is right now. And just walking around there sweating nonstop. So if it wasn't for splash pads and stuff like that, we'd be inside all the time.
Families doing everything they can to stay cool in triple-digit temperatures caused by a weather phenomenon known as a heat dome.
The scorching heat has caused thirteen deaths in Texas and at least one in Louisiana.
Another heat dome has developed over central California, spurring high temperature advisories there.
Paris riot » In suburban Paris, burned cars and overturned trash cans littered the streets on Wednesday after anti-police riots the night before.
Violent protests broke out over the police shooting of a 17-year-old driver.
Authorities said the teen refused to follow police instructions during a traffic stop. He died from a gunshot wound.
BORNE [Speaking French]: While violence has flared up in some suburbs. I want to call everyone to remain calm.
French Prime Minister Elisabeth Borne calling on citizens to remain calm.
Authorities said 31 people were arrested during Tuesday’s protests … 24 policemen were injured and about 40 cars were burned.
Officials mobilized an additional 2,000 police officers to the area on Wednesday in anticipation of more violent protests.
French President Emmanuel Macron called the teen’s death inexcusable …and pleaded for protesters to remain peaceful.
I’m Kristen Flavin.
Straight ahead: Churches pull funding over abortion abolitionism. Plus, finding healing by caring for horses.
This is The World and Everything in It.
PAUL BUTLER, HOST: It’s Thursday, June 29th, 2023.
Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Paul Butler.
MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.
First up on The World and Everything in It: abolitionism at the SBC.
Earlier this month in New Orleans, the question of female pastors took center stage at the 2023 meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention.
But some conversations highlighted ongoing tension between individual churches and denomination leadership over the issue of abortion. That tension has led some churches to cut their funding to certain denomination entities. Here’s Leah Savas with our story.
LEAH SAVAS, REPORTER: On the second day of the SBC meeting, SBC president Bart Barber made an announcement.
BART BARBER: Floor’s now open for questions. Microphone 1-A, can you state your name, your church, and your question?
Pastor Brian Gunter was the first in line. A year ago, he had asked the denomination’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission president Brent Leatherwood a question and now was his chance to follow up.
BRIAN GUNTER: Dr. Leatherwood, you previously stated that you do not believe a mother should be criminalized if she chooses willfully to have an abortion while that child is in the womb. So my question for you today is, should that same mother be criminalized if she willfully chooses to murder that child after that child is born?
Leatherwood’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission is an organization within the SBC that helps the denomination articulate its policy positions in the public square. But when it comes to fighting abortion, the ERLC and SBC pastors like Gunter don’t see eye to eye.
Gunter is one of a growing number of Southern Baptists who call themselves abortion abolitionists. They oppose abortion but also disagree with the mainstream pro-life movement’s incremental legislative strategies. Abolitionists want laws that would treat the killing of an unborn baby as homicide. That would entail punishments for mothers who willfully get abortions.
But the ERLC openly opposes legislation that would make that possible. Here’s part of Leatherwood’s response to Gunter.
BRENT LEATHERWOOD: We have to make sure that we’re not doing the bidding of Planned Parenthood—of achieving their goal of casting the pro-life movement and our churches, with our gospel convictions, as anti-woman rather than about being saving babies and supporting mothers.
Before the last election, pro-abortion groups worked to turn voters away from pro-life candidates by sowing fears about women getting arrested for abortions. Mainstream pro-life groups don’t want to legitimize those fears.
Gunter himself used to work for Louisiana Right to Life. But that was before something changed two years ago.
GUNTER: I became an abolitionist at the Southern Baptist Convention in Nashville in 2021.
That year, a majority of the SBC delegates voted in favor of a resolution abolitionist pastors brought forward that called for “the immediate abolition of abortion without exception or compromise” and “equal protection” for unborn babies. Gunter voted for it.
GUNTER: And they convinced me. And I'm looking at the language of the resolution. I'm like, Yep, this is good. And so literally, on the spot, I realized these guys have the right approach.
Because of his experience, Gunter sees the annual meetings as a crucial time to tell more Southern Baptists about the abolitionist position.
But after that resolution passed in 2021, the ERLC came out against abolitionist legislation. Since then, some Southern Baptist pastors have started using their SBC donations to protest the ERLC. Pastor David Rhoades in Lubbock, Texas, is one of them.
DAVID RHOADES: And so we as a church unanimously decided to defund or no longer fund the ERLC.
Rhoades acknowledged the effect will be minimal. His church only has about 100 people on a Sunday. Plus, the ERLC receives less than 1.7 percent of all money that comes to the SBC through the denomination’s general fund, fueled by individual churches and state conventions.
RHOADES: And so in the end, it's certainly not going to bankrupt them. But it's a message that we sent.
Other churches have rearranged their giving to send a similar message. Rhoades hopes more messages like that will eventually have an effect on the denomination.
RHOADES: Because the Southern Baptist Convention is a bottom up organization, it’s controlled by the churches. The churches, if they don't like something, they can show up to the annual meeting and start to make changes. And so I think there's still hope with the abolitionist movement gaining steam in the SBC.
Brent Leatherwood said he’s noticed the overwhelming number of Southern Baptists who are raising these questions about how to end abortion.
LEATHERWOOD: Pastors across the Southern Baptist Convention want that. We all read the same Bible. And we all adhere to the same statement of faith.
But he cautions pastors to consider the significant losses the pro-life movement has suffered at the ballot box since the overturn of Roe v. Wade last summer.
LEATHERWOOD: The American public has not been persuaded by much of those views. And so that's why I think the best way forward right now is continuing to help our culture see the humanity and dignity of each preborn child and developing laws that go after those who would take preborn lives: the abortionist, the abortion mills that support them.
While the mainstream pro-life movement tries to persuade the secular world, abolitionists will continue to speak up in settings like the SBC meeting to persuade more Christians to join their side.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Leah Savas.
BUTLER: To read more of Leah Savas’ reporting on the abortion abolitionist movement, check out the June 24th issue of WORLD Magazine.
MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: the future of Indian adoptions.
Two weeks ago, the Supreme Court handed down its decision in the case Haaland (Holland) versus Brackeen. The case centered around three families that want to foster and adopt Native American children, but tribal leaders denied their requests under the Indian Child Welfare Act, or ICWA.
PAUL BUTLER, HOST: The case raises a variety of questions about ICWA, but the most concrete question was this … does ICWA violate the equal protection clause of the Constitution by giving Indian families and tribes preference over non-native families adopting Native American children?
BROWN: On June 15th, the Court held in a 7 to 2 decision that ICWA (ICK-Wah) does not violate the Constitution. But it avoided the merits of the race question, and instead held that the parties didn’t have standing. In other words, it said that the foster couples and state governments didn’t have a proper stake in the controversy to bring the issue to court.
So what’s the real significance of this decision, and how will it affect Native American adoptions in the future?
BUTLER: Joining us now to talk about it is Mark Fiddler. He’s an attorney based in Minnesota who has argued Child Welfare cases before the Supreme Court and is the founding director of the Indian Child Welfare Law Center. He is also a member of the Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians.
BROWN: Good morning, Mark.
MARK FIDDLER: Good morning, Myrna.
BROWN: Mark, what is the Indian Child Welfare Act and how is it connected to keeping Indian culture alive in the United States?
FIDDLER: So the Indian Child Welfare Act, or ICWA, as it's called for short, it was passed in 78. And it tried to address the disproportionate rate of removal of Native American children from their homes.
And so Congress heard that a lot of times in the 60s and 70s, Indian kids could be removed for reasons of poverty, more commonly being raised by an auntie or grandma instead of with by the parent. And those were customary kin relationships, practices that weren't by themselves evidence of neglect or abuse. And so Congress required a higher standard of proof to place those children into foster care, or to terminate parental rights.
So what was an issue in the Brackeen versus Haaland case was the definition of "Indian child" will so how does ICWA categorize children? Is it a categorization based on race and then when children are placed, are those preferences constitutional?
BROWN: As far as the race question, the court held the parties had no standing to sue here. Why did the court say the Brackeens (in particular) had no standing to sue when they are actually fostering a child they're trying to adopt? What facts or situation is needed in order for the court to answer the race question. In other words, in what circumstances would a party have standing?
FIDDLER: What standing basically means is that the court has to have the power to help the people that are coming before it. So if—in this case, we sued in federal court, we sued the United States Department of Interior, Secretary Haaland, and asked for what's called a declaratory judgment. And so what the court said is, well, you didn't sue the states themselves.
And so while the court never took issue with the fact that the plaintiffs were harmed, the problem was, the court said, ‘in order for us to help you, to give you the relief you want, we have to have a judgment before us that we can reverse, and there wasn't a judgment.’
And so Justice Kavanaugh clearly said that equal protection arguments were grave, I think he said, in his words. And he said in the event that plaintiffs bring up a case in the state court system, and there's a state court judgment before us, then the issue can be addressed at that time. So, you know, when a judge, a justice puts that kind of language in a decision, it's basically shouting out to lawyers in America. Hey, guys, if you want to do it, here's how you do it. Bring it on.
BROWN: Whatever happened to the concept of “best interest of the child?” A child who has formed attachment to his foster parents, loves them and they the child, has no influence on legal analysis here. Why not?
FIDDLER: ICWA presumes that the placement of the child with the Indian family is in the child's best interests. And that overrides any kind of individualistic determination of what the child needs in his in his or her own right. And so like every state's got a best interest of the child test. And it looks at things like attachment and a child's health and security and connections with the community and cultural upbringing and things like that. And those criteria are applied on a case by case basis. But when you take that standard and couple it with ICWA, ICWA kind of squashes that standard, and says, ‘well, that's all fine and dandy, but if you can't show the court, good cause to deviate from the placement preferences. The best interests don't matter. They literally don't matter. They're irrelevant.
BROWN: Mark Fiddler is an attorney and the founding director of the Indian Child Welfare Law Center. Thank you for your time!
FIDDLER: Thank you, Myrna, it was great to talk with you.
PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Well Myrna, I know that your birthday was a couple weeks ago, and I think we’re both getting to the age where we might be tempted to turn back the clock a little if we could.
MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Yeah.
BUTLER: Well in South Korea, everybody is doing just that. Thanks to a new law, they’re all getting 1 to 2 years younger.
BROWN: What?!
BUTLER: No joke. In much of South Korea, babies are traditionally considered to be age 1 at birth, most people believe the custom may have started to acknowledge the time in the womb. So far so good, but this is where it gets a bit more confusing. Every January 1st, many Koreans mark the New Year by adding a year to their age, regardless of when their birthdate is.
BROWN: I don’t follow.
BUTLER: See if this helps. Someone born in South Korea on June 29th last year, would be 1 year old on that day. Then on January 1st, 2023, they were now 2 years old—even though they’re not even one yet according to the calendar. So from January 1st, 2023 till June 28th, 2023 their reported age would be two years off from their actual age. Once Koreans pass their actual birthdate, they’re back to being just one year different from their chronological, post-delivery age. And as you can imagine, the custom led to some challenging calculations when it came to drivers licenses, and age limited products and services.
BROWN: That makes my head hurt.
BUTLER: You’re not alone, so lawmakers in December passed laws adopting the international system, and the new accounting went into effect yesterday. That means today the average age in Korea is about two years lower than it was earlier this week.
BROWN: That’s one way to feel younger I guess.
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PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Today is Thursday, June 29th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. Good morning. I’m Paul Butler.
MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.
Coming next on The World and Everything in It: horses of healing.
Civil War General Sherman is credited for the saying: “War is hell.” And many veterans who have experienced the battlefield return broken, traumatized, and questioning God. But WORLD Associate Correspondent Travis Kircher visited one Kentucky organization that is using horses to help bring mental and spiritual healing for veterans.
AUDIO: “Bring Oliver out first. We’ll start with Oliver. Richard Hayes, you wanna follow us with Silver?”
SOUND: [Horse clomping]
TRAVIS KIRCHER, REPORTER: It’s a sunny Saturday afternoon at the Savvy Winds Farm in Taylorsville, Kentucky. Blue skies. Green grass. Mild temperatures in the low 80s. A handful of veterans and first responders are leading horses out of the barn to a nearby field.
SOUND: [Vets take horses to the obstacle course.]
That field contains an obstacle course. The obstacles aren’t large. A few tires and a short bridge for the horses to navigate, but they’re enough that the veterans will need to lead the 1,100-pound animals through.
JEREMY HARRELL: So what are you gonna do out here? You’re gonna look for different personalities in the horses, right?
Jeremy Harrell is the founder of the Veteran’s Club. It’s an organization that provides healing and recovery services for veterans.
HARRELL: And then I might ask you, ‘What about that horse reminds you of yourself?’ Right? Or, ‘what part of that horse has a different personality trait that maybe you like, or don’t like, and why?’ kind of a thing. But have fun!
One of the veterans here today is 68-year-old Richard Hayes. He’s a longtime volunteer with the Veteran’s Club. Hayes leads a mustang named Silver through an obstacle of hanging plastic strips, affectionately called “The Car Wash.”
RICHARD HAYES: Let’s go Silver! We’re going through the car wash! [Horse snorts] The car wash blues!!! [Horse snorts] Yeah! Talk to me, now!
Life hasn’t always been this tranquil for Hayes. He joined the US Army in 1971, got shipped to Korea, and then to the last part of Vietnam. But while overseas, he received devastating news: His fiancée died in a car wreck.
HAYES: And, well, I didn’t find out about it until I got over there and they wouldn’t let me come back home because we wasn’t married. And it caused a lot of anguish. I didn’t know what to do. I was a young man – you know, 18 years old. And I turned to alcohol and drugs. And then all this stuff in Vietnam and all this other stuff was going on. I seen some stuff that would really…I had lost faith for a long time, to be honest with you, I did.
Hayes says alcohol and heroin were his drugs of choice. After he came home from the service, he got off the heroin, but his depression, alcoholism, and anger at God spiraled.
HAYES: I attempted suicide a couple of times. And I said, ‘Well, that didn’t work.’ So I packed up and sold everything I owned and I went into the woods up here on the Kentucky River. I lived there for almost nine months. I was stealing chickens from farmers. I was eating stuff out of the creeks – crawdads and different things like that too.
Jeremy Harrell says anger at God is a common theme among many who’ve served. An Army veteran himself, he had to ask God some tough questions, after he came home from the Iraq War.
HARRELL: I get that you’re God and I got it – I understand that. But why are you allowing all these things to happen? If you can part the sea – right? How can you allow my friend to get shot and killed or blown up with an IED or whatever it is?
For Harrell, dealing with those doubts meant finding an accountability partner, digging into God’s Word and going straight to Him with those tough questions. There were no short-term fixes and no easy answers.
HARRELL: And over the course, seeing what God had to say about trauma, what God had to say about these things, I just thought, ‘Well we’re not talking enough about this.’ Like, we’re talking about traditional mental health, therapy – and not that any of that is bad, it is good. But I felt like, in my experience, it was short-term. I wanted to know who could fix this long-term, right? And you know, we call the Lord the Great Physician.
Harrell started the Veteran’s Club’s equine therapy program to get other veterans to open up about their struggles. Participants begin by grooming the horses. Then they share a lunch in the barn and learn how to handle the horses before taking them to the obstacle course. Afterward, they go back to the barn to talk about what’s on their minds, giving Harrell an opportunity to share the gospel.
He says horses have a way of helping veterans to open up.
HARRELL: I think it’s much easier to talk about your hardest day when you’re brushing a horse or doing something with your hands, versus sitting in a chair looking at each other.
Richard Hayes has been volunteering with the program for years. In 2008, after months of living in the woods, he was rescued by friends from the National Guard, who took him to the VA Hospital. He got clean, and over time, decided to give his life to Christ.
HAYES: But then one day, I woke, it seemed like, and ‘Wow – I feel good!’ I said, ‘Doggone, the good Lord done blessed me!’ And I sat down and I prayed, and I said, ‘Hey, get me through this!’
Hayes recently celebrated 15 years of sobriety. Since the equine program started six years ago, he and Harrell have shared their testimonies with some of the 3,800 other veterans who’ve come through.
Back at the obstacle course, Hayes is busy walking Silver across the small bridge, around the tires. He likes Silver. Silver is – well – silver. Kind of like Hayes. Rescued. Kind of like Hayes.
But right now, Hayes is out of breath.
VOICE: You need a break? Here!
HAYES: Yeah.
VOICE: Here. Let me take that horse! I’ll take him off your hands!
As Hayes puts it, ‘I ain’t no spring chicken no more!’ At 68, he knows he has health issues.
HAYES: All things are gonna die. But like I said, while you’re here, you’ve got to make a difference. Because we’re all gonna go. And I want to go up. I want to serve up there, not just while I’m here now.
Reporting for WORLD, I’m Travis Kircher, in Taylorsville, Kentucky.
SOUND: [HORSE SNORTS]
HAYES: You heard him!
HARRELL: He’s talkative!
HAYES: The Car Wash Blues!!!!!
MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Thursday, June 29th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.
PAUL BUTLER, HOST: And I’m Paul Butler. Last week, federal prosecutors announced the end of a five year investigation into Hunter Biden. WORLD Radio’s Kent Covington from Wednesday:
KENT COVINGTON: President Biden’s son Hunter has cut a plea deal with the Justice Department that will likely spare him any time behind bars. He’s pleading guilty to federal tax offenses to avoid prosecution on a felony weapons charge.
The House Ways and Means Committee also released the testimony of two IRS whistleblowers. These whistleblowers made serious allegations against federal investigators in the Biden case. Commentator Cal Thomas now on what should happen next.
CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: It is an unfortunate truism of politics that partisans tend to believe the worst about members of the opposite party and no amount of facts — if facts can be agreed upon — move people from their entrenched positions. Largely, I think, it’s all about gaining or keeping power and not actually discovering the truth or solving problems.
In a relativistic age when everyone has their own “truth,” how does one discern what is objectively true and what is false? And the even bigger question is how does one persuade someone who refuses to believe irrefutable facts that they are wrong?
These questions bring me to the case of Hunter Biden and two conflicting positions.
Last Friday, Attorney General Merrick Garland said in a press conference that David Weiss, the U.S. attorney for Delaware who spent five years investigating Hunter Biden, had "complete authority” to bring whatever charges he wished against the president’s son. But is that true?
Those suspecting far more crooked behavior on the part of the Biden family think there is much more to discover and that Weiss did not dig far enough into their business dealings.
Last Thursday—the day before Garland’s comments—the House Ways and Means Committee released the testimony of two IRS whistleblowers. The whistleblowers told a story that contradicts what Garland and Weiss have said. One of them, Gary Shapley, has spent 14 years with the tax agency. He claims, according to the released transcript of his testimony, that he was blocked from pursuing leads. Shapley says the Justice Department, its tax division and Weiss’ office “provided preferential treatment and unchecked conflicts of interest.”
Predictably, some Democrats deny all this. Are they saying Shapley is lying? There is only one way to discover the truth in all this. Shapley, the anonymous whistleblower, Attorney General Garland, Weiss, and anyone else with knowledge about Hunter’s activities beyond the felony gun and tax evasion plea deal should be put under oath and publicly testify. These would include witnesses to Shapley’s claims that he expressed frustration as he sought to advance his investigation.
In a statement, Ways and Means Chairman Jason Smith said: “IRS employees who blew the whistle on this abuse were retaliated against, despite a commitment IRS Commissioner (Daniel) Werfel made before the Ways and Means Committee to uphold their legal protections. They were removed from this investigation after they responsibly worked through the chain of command to raise (their) concerns.”
Character matters. Good character guards against bad behavior and protects against allegations of wrongdoing.
Jim Rohn, an American entrepreneur, observed: “Character isn’t something you were born with and can’t change, like your fingerprints. It’s something you weren’t born with and must take responsibility for forming.”
If a person has bad character, anything is believable.
I’m Cal Thomas.
PAUL BUTLER, HOST: Tomorrow: Culture Friday with John Stonestreet. Plus, Indiana Jones cracks his whip one more time. Collin Garbarino has a review of the Dial of Destiny. And, your Listener Feedback. That and more tomorrow.
I’m Paul Butler.
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