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Texas Gov. Greg Abbott wants to restart construction of the southern border wall in his state; the Supreme Court opts not to hear a major religious liberty case; and a book club in Virginia readS the Bible as literature. Plus: commentary from Cal Thomas, and the Thursday morning news.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

Former President Donald Trump started constructing a wall along the southern border. Now Texas Governor Greg Abbott wants to finish it. But not all Texans support that plan.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Also the Supreme Court hangs a Christian florist out to dry.

Plus a visit to a neighborhood book club.

And commentator Cal Thomas on breaking one of the legs off a three-legged chair, figuratively speaking.

REICHARD: It’s Thursday, July 8th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Good morning!

REICHARD: Time now for the news with Kent Covington.


KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Elsa pushes up the Eastern Seaboard » Elsa is pushing into the Carolinas today, after blasting Florida’s Gulf Coast and south Georgia on Wednesday.

Forecasters expected the storm to hit Florida’s Big Bend region as a Category 1 hurricane. Instead, Tropical Storm Elsa made landfall Wednesday packing winds around 65 miles per hour.

In the wake of the storm, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis warned residents that dangers remain.

DESANTIS: There are reports of flooded roads and trees down. Don’t drive your vehicle into standing water. As little as 12 inches of  fast-running water can carry away a small vehicle. Be aware of fallen or hanging power lines. Don’t approach or touch the power line.

The storm knocked out power to tens of thousands of homes.

Still, DeSantis said the state was fortunate, as the storm “could have been worse.”

Elsa is no longer packing the same winds, but Ken Graham with the National Hurricane Center says it will likely drop rain all the way up the Eastern Seaboard.

GRAHAM: Thursday afternoon up here in North Carolina, and then even time, overnight early Friday morning up into New England.

Search continues in rubble of condo collapse, 10 more victims found » The storm did, once again, complicate search efforts at the site of the condo collapse in Surfside, Florida. But the search did continue uninterrupted on Wednesday.

That search, however, is now shifting from a search for survivors to a recovery mission.

It has now been two weeks since the 12-story building crumbled to the ground, with likely more than a hundred people inside. And rescue teams have found no signs of life since just hours after the collapse.

CAVA: And since our last briefing, the USR teams recovered an additional 10 victims, bringing the total confirmed deaths to 46.

Miami-Dade County Mayor Danielle Levine Cava heard there.

Nearly 100 people are still missing. Officials are briefing families twice a day as the search continues.

Delta variant becomes dominant COVID-19 strain in US » The delta variant of COVID-19, first discovered in India, has wreaked havoc across the globe. And new data from the CDC show that the ultra-contagious variant is now the dominant strain in the United States. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has more.

KRISTEN FLAVIN, REPORTER: The CDC says the delta strain now represents 52 percent of all new U.S. cases.

Up till now, the alpha variant, first found in the U.K., had been the dominant strain here. It is more transmissible than the original strain of COVID-19.

But the delta variant is 55 percent more contagious than the alpha strain.

And as the delta variant has spread, progress against COVID-19 has ground to a halt.

After a drastic drop in new cases from January through May, the rate of new cases is almost unchanged since the beginning of June.

Experts worry that what comes next is another increase of new cases.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

Trump sues social media giants over censorship » Former President Donald Trump is leading a group suing Facebook, Twitter, and Google alleging the companies wrongly censored him and many conservatives.

Trump announced the action against the tech companies and their CEOs at a press conference in New Jersey Wednesday.

TRUMP: We’re demanding an end to the shadow banning, a stop to the silencing, and a stop to the blacklisting, banishing, and cancelling that you know so well.

Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube all blocked Trump’s social media accounts after the Jan. 6th Capitol riot.

Under a section of the 1996 Communications Decency Act, social media platforms are allowed to moderate their services by removing posts that, for instance, are obscene or violate the services’ own standards so long as they are acting in—quote—“good faith.” Trump asserts that they were not.

The former president stood alongside other plaintiffs in the suits, which were filed in federal court in Miami.

They argue that banning or suspending the accounts of the plaintiffs’ violated their First Amendment rights.

Biden: Assassination of Hatian president, state of Haiti “very worrisome” » The White House is responding to the assassination of the president of Haiti.

President Biden Wednesday called the situation in Haiti “very worrisome.” And Press Secretary Jen Psaki said the U.S. government stands ready to help.

PSAKI: This is still developing, and so we’ll assess what their needs are and we’re ready to provide—respond to the needs they ask for.

WORLD’s Anna Johansen Brown has more on the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse.

ANNA JOHANSEN BROWN, REPORTER: The 53-year-old president was a former banana producer who ruled Haiti for more than four years.

A group of heavily armed men broke into Moïse’s home Wednesday morning, killing the president and wounding his wife, Martine Moïse.

Interim Prime Minister Claude Joseph said the attack at the president’s home was “a highly coordinated attack” by a “highly trained” group.

Moïse took office in February 2017, pledging to fight corruption and create jobs. But critics accused him of growing increasingly authoritarian.

He had been ruling by decree for more than a year after Parliament was dissolved. And widespread protests paralyzed the country.

In addition, gangs in the capital of Port-au-Prince have grown more powerful, ransacking houses and driving 15,000 people from their homes last month alone.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Anna Johansen Brown.

I’m Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: plans to restart border wall construction in Texas.

Plus, Cal Thomas on our culture’s shifting standards.

This is The World and Everything in It.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: It’s Thursday the 8th of July, 2021.

You’re listening to World Radio and we’re so glad you are! Good morning, I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. First up on The World and Everything in It: border security.

Illegal immigration is at the highest levels in 20 years in this country. The Biden administration’s response has left border states frustrated. So one border state governor is making his own plans to secure the border in his state.

BROWN: Texas Governor Greg Abbott has introduced measures to stop the influx of people coming in illegally. One measure is to restart construction of the border wall. Paying for that wall is being discussed in a special legislative session that begins today. WORLD Correspondent Bonnie Pritchett reports.

SCHUSTER: There’s always been people coming through. But the people now are destructive.

CORRESPONDENT BONNIE PRITCHETT: That’s Donna Schuster. She manages her family’s 9,000-acre ranch in south Texas.

SCHUSTER: They’re cutting up our fences. They’re tearing up our water lines. I had some take a rock and hit a plastic PVC piece until they broke it. And I lost like 5,000 gallons of water. Well, out here, it’ll take me a month to get that much water again for my livestock

Schuster’s ranch is about 25 miles from the Mexican border. She was born and raised in the region and the influx of illegal immigrants is like nothing she and her neighbors have experienced.

One recent encounter left her shaken.

SCHUSTER: And then I had a group that was hanging out drinking beverages on my back deck one day when I pulled up to the house…

Those beverages came from the refrigerator in Schuster’s garage. Now she carries a pistol every time she leaves the house—even to take out the trash.

ABBOTT: We need local officials like the ones I spoke to today…

Last month Texas Governor Greg Abbott and state officials met with residents in Del Rio, a region overwhelmed by the immigrant surge. There he announced his multi-strategy plan for securing the border.

ABBOTT: The ability to arrest will be enhanced by building border barriers. But, on top of that, I will announce the plan for the State of Texas to begin building the border wall in the State of Texas...

Abbott didn’t say how he would fund the estimated $5 billion dollar effort to restart former President Donald Trump’s border wall project. But he reallocated $250 million from the state budget as a “down payment.” He also called on Texans to donate money and portions of their border land for the wall’s construction.

Ken Oliver is senior director of Engagement and Right on Immigration at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. He speculates funding could come, indirectly, from the roughly $40 billion dollars in COVID-19 relief allocated to Texas under the American Rescue Plan Act. But he says the federal funds cannot be used to build the wall.

OLIVER: The State of Texas could take that money and use and reallocate money that it has for other purposes using these incoming funds from the federal government. I think that’s what’s going to be part of this special session of the Texas Legislature is going to deal with…

Funding aside, Abbott faces the same obstacle Trump did—Texans.

Some don’t want the 30-feet concrete and steel wall on their land or in their towns.

The City of Laredo has a long-established working relationship with its Mexican sister city Nuevo Laredo. Mayor Pete Saenz said a wall would be an affront to that relationship.

SAENZ: We're so close to each other business wise, culturally, family wise. So, there's a strong connection and dependence on each other to make this region happen…

In June, the Laredo City Council unanimously passed a resolution opposing Abbott’s proposal. But they also acknowledged the need for border security.

Since October the city has seen a 650 percent rise in arrests of illegal immigrants. Ninety-four percent of those are single men. And there’s evidence that the Mexican cartel has been smuggling people and drugs through the city.

But Saenz emphasized that much more than illicit trade comes through the city.

SAENZ: We're the number one land port of the entire Americas. We do over $230 billion worth of trade every year. And this year, we plan to do even more. So, you get the picture…

Saenz wants relief from the surge in illegal immigration and the criminal element who come with it. And he’s frustrated that the city has not gotten what’s been promised.

SAENZ: And, and although we feel that a physical wall, to some may secure the border, we feel that the virtual wall has not been given an opportunity. President Biden ran on that. He was elected as our president, we're still waiting for him to implement this virtual wall concept…

Ken Oliver at the Texas Public Policy Foundation said securing the nation’s southern border used to be a bipartisan effort.

OLIVER: Under President George W. Bush, the Secure Fence Act was passed in 2006 for almost 700 miles of secure fencing. This was not a partisan point of contention at all. In fact, President Joe Biden, as Senator Biden back then, voted for it, as did back then Senator Hillary Clinton and former President Obama was a senator who voted for it as well. It did become an issue of division in a partisan way only since then…

Now political wrangling has left South Texas residents waiting for resolution. In the meantime, Schuster will continue carrying a pistol while working her ranch, mending fences and hoping Congress does the same.

SCHUSTER: I just don’t think that the nation as a whole realizes how bad it is, how bad it’s gotten, and how dangerous it’s gotten, you know. And, so, I don’t think that’s been a priority.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Bonnie Pritchett.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: a case the Supreme Court declined to hear.

The High Court on Friday denied review of the case captioned Arlene’s Flowers v Washington. It’s been pending on the court’s calendar for four years now.

The case involves a florist in Washington state who referred a gay couple elsewhere rather than create customized floral arrangements for their wedding. To do so would violate her religious belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Three justices would have accepted the case. Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, and Neil Gorsuch. But it takes four justices for a case to be accepted for review.

Here to discuss what this means for the florist, Barronelle Stutzman, and other Christian business owners is Steve West. He’s an attorney and writes about religious liberty issues for WORLD Digital. Good morning, Steve!

STEVE WEST, REPORTER: Good morning, Mary.

REICHARD: Well, Steve, to start, bring us up to speed very briefly. Just summarize the Stutzman case for us if you would. How did we get here?

WEST: Well, we have to turn the clock back eight years all the way to 2013. Barronelle Stutzman has a flower shop called Arlene's Flowers in Washington state. And in 2013, a gay customer that she had had for a number of years and served came in and wanted a customized floral arrangement for a same-sex wedding. Now, Ms. Stutzman serves gay customers and sells them flowers off the shelf. But in this case, she was asked to design a customized floral arrangement, so she declined. She explained why. And that information got back to the Washington attorney general who brought a civil rights complaint against Barronelle Stutzman.

The Washington court ultimately ruled against her and she had to take it to the Supreme Court to review. And the court basically sent it back to the Washington Supreme Court, asking the court to take another look at it in light of Masterpiece Cakeshop. That decision was by the Supreme Court back in 2018 where the court said that Colorado baker Jack Phillips had been discriminated against by the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, who were openly hostile to his beliefs that he couldn't design a cake for a same sex wedding. So anyway, he went back to the Washington Supreme Court. They basically issued the same opinion again, and then this appeal followed. It’s been pending in the Supreme Court since 2019.

REICHARD: You know, one of the things I think is important to emphasize is, it’s not a matter of Stutzman or Jack Phillips refusing to serve LGBT customers. It’s a matter of creating a custom piece of artwork to celebrate something that they find deeply troubling, as far as their religious beliefs go. The couple in Stutzman’s case could have chosen any other flower arrangement in their shop. But they were requiring her to use her creative efforts for something customized to their ceremony. And I think that’s something that needs to come out more in media reports.

So Steve, in Masterpiece, the Colorado civil rights commission violated the cake baker's rights. In Stutzman’s case, this Arlene’s Flowers case, she was aggressively pursued for years by Washington State Attorney General and the ACLU. And now this disappointment for her. Do you know why the Supreme Court passed up the chance to resolve this case, and all the other targeted lawsuits against Christians out there?

WEST: We can only speculate because the court doesn't have to give a reason why it declines review. Sometimes some of the justices will chime in about that, but none did here. What we do know is that only three justices—the conservatives: Alito, Thomas and Gorsuch—agreed that they would like to hear it. Two of the conservative justices Kavanaugh and Barrett declined to hear it but did not give a reason why. It could be that they're just not ready to deal with this divisive issue. But it would be hard to think of a case that more squarely presents the issue and a more important issue for so many people, so many small business owners.

Back in the Fulton case, a recent case that the court decided, Gorsuch charged that the majority dodged the question today. In that case, the court united in a ruling basically that protected Catholic social services in Philadelphia, and allowed them to continue working with the city and its foster care system. But they didn't unite on a rationale. And Gorsuch issued that warning to the other two Trump appointees—Kavanaugh and Barrett—basically saying that these cases will keep coming until the court musters the fortitude to supply an answer. Basically saying you're not brave enough to deal with this particular issue. So, I think that highlights some of the tensions that exist in the conservative branch of the court.

REICHARD: Yeah, that’s a real head scratcher that Kavanaugh and Barrett didn’t agree to hear the case. So what does the Supreme Court’s decision not to take up this case mean for Stutzman now?

WEST: Well, it leaves in place a lower court ruling that found she violated a state civil rights law that bars discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. It probably means that she'll have to design floral arrangements for same sex weddings if she does any weddings at all. I guess you could say that she doesn't design floral arrangements for weddings at this point. But I don't think that ends the issue because I expect the next complaint to be a refusal to design a custom arrangement for a gender transition celebration and I'm not sure there's an easy way out of that one for her. You know, the other thing that’s sad is that she's likely liable for extensive attorneys fees and costs that the state has incurred for pursuing her all of these years

REICHARD: There are similar cases pending that are similar to Barronelle Stutzman’s case. What are those about and what will this non-decision mean for them?

WEST: Well, there's a couple that come to mind. One is a photographer, Emily Carpenter, who's challenging a very similar New York law. This is a pre-enforcement challenge, which means they haven't come after her yet. But the threat is there that they would come after her, so she's trying to head that off by a lawsuit against the state. And this doesn't bode well for that. It doesn't set a precedent, because there's no law here. But it leaves in place a bad precedent from the Washington Supreme Court. There are some good cases out there, too, so she can take some comfort in that.

It also addresses perhaps the Oregon case of Sweet Cakes bakers Melissa and Aaron Klein. Now, they were aggressively pursued by the state and they were put out of business by the state of Oregon with a $135,000 fine. They have an appeal pending at the Oregon Supreme Court. I'm not optimistic about that particular case, given the Supreme Court's refusal to take Barronelle Stutzman’s case.

REICHARD: Steve West writes about religious liberties for WORLD Digital. You can read his work at WNG.org. You can also subscribe to his free weekly newsletter on First Amendment issues, Liberties. Steve, always good to have you on. Thank you!

WEST: Thank you, Mary.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Well, it’s always important to make sure that guests feel welcomed inside the church.

When a guest wandered off the street into a church in the Ft. Myers, Fla. area, the staff wasn’t quite sure how to react.

Victory Church Pastor Daniel Gregory told WBBH-tv...

GREGORY: One of the daycare workers wandered in and said ‘there’s a gator,’ and I was like ‘funny.’

But it wasn’t a prank.

The 4-foot gator strolled in after crawling out of a nearby storm drain.

GREGORY: He came to our church, so I don’t know what his spiritual condition is.

But the pastor greeted the guest as he would any visitor.

GREGORY: We have services at 9am and 11am Sunday mornings. You wanna check us out?

As one person commented on Gregory’s Facebook page … “let everything that has breath praise the Lord,” right?

BROWN: People, Mary! People!

REICHARD: It’s The World and Everything in It.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Thursday, July 8th.

Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown. Coming up next, WORLD reporter Jenny Rough visits a book club in Charlottesville, Virginia. 

The group of women decided to set aside contemporary novels and the latest current affairs read for the best selling book of all time: The Bible.

JENNY ROUGH, REPORTER: When Hannah Hadley moved to Charlottesville, Virginia, she wanted to make friends and meet neighbors. So she started a book club.

HANNAH HADLEY: I wanted something to stimulate my mind. And I think a lot of these other people did, too.

The group met once a month and took turns with the book selection. Where the Crawdads Sing by Delia Owens. A Sand County Almanac by Aldo Leopold.

Then COVID hit. The book club took a break. At home during the pandemic, Hadley picked up her Bible. She’d tried reading it cover-to-cover before.

HADLEY: And I could never get more than halfway through it.

Her neighbor had a suggestion: What if the book club read the entire Bible as a work of literature? Hadley sent around a text—with happy and nerd face emojis—to gauge interest.

HADLEY: Hi, Neighbs. Pre-COVID some of us had a book club with a big mix of genres and would meet monthly to discuss with snacks and libations. This year, we will read the Bible cover-to-cover as a literary piece. We’re coming from different perspectives …

Some said it sounded too daunting. Others, too controversial. But a handful were intrigued enough to commit. They gathered outside around a firepit, women with a mix of different faith backgrounds and views. Ground rules: keep an open-mind; listen respectfully; no expectation to conform to particular interpretations. The goal was to simply get through the text.

HADLEY: If there are questions or bumps or confusing parts, we are just keeping on rolling.

Brian Parker is a pastor in Arlington, Virginia. He says that Bible studies can sometimes get bogged down in minutia and lose the context of the whole. But Hadley’s approach can avoid that.

BRIAN PARKER: There’s a lot of strength to say, okay, sit down and just read a book. Read it through. And just try to get your mind wrapped around the structure of it, the flow of it.

If the whole Bible is too much, a book club could decide to read just one portion instead of the entire thing. Parker suggests reading the gospel of Mark in one sitting. It takes about 35 minutes. He recalls the reaction of one student:

BRIAN PARKER: She came back the next week and was like I read it once a day for five days. The whole book every day. She was just struck by the flow and the character development and the events and the sequencing and everything else. She was just struck by the narrative of it all. And I remember the excitement on her face.

For those who decide to tackle the whole Bible, it takes about 75 hours to read.

HOLLY BRITT: I’ve only ever read excerpts of the Bible. I’ve never seen it in its entirety.

Holly Britt is part of the Charlottesville book group. She says she rarely even glanced at Leviticus before the book club. After reading it all, she could see the bigger story.

BRITT: The mystery became real. So to see how Jesus became all of those things, in that, you know, there was the bread of the presence. I never understood, I am the body, I am the blood. I think that when I realized that the entire Jewish people, their communion with God was based on ritual. Then seeing how Jesus flipped the ritual to fulfill it himself.I was like that’s why we do this!

Pastor Brian Parker says there can be pitfalls to a book club approach though. Without deeper study, the tendency is to read the Bible flat. Think of it this way:

PARKER: We wouldn’t go to a love letter between a husband and wife and read it as a contract. That would make no sense. Same with if we go to an op-ed piece in The Washington Post, we’re not going to read it for a strictly historical account of an event.

In our culture today, we naturally take the context and genre into account.

PARKER: But yet when we get to the Bible, we read it and say it’s monolithic. And to do that actually does incredible injustice to the text itself.

The Bible is an anthology of writings. Many authors. Many genres.

PARKER: We have poetry, we have parables, we have didactic narratives, teaching narratives, we have law … and they all use different literary techniques whether it’s chiasm, acronyms, or acrostics or all these different tools to communicate what they are doing.

Biblical literacy will provide meaningful insights into other works of literature people might read in a book club. Song Cho is a professor at Hampton University. He studies Biblical allusions in literature. For example, Pride and Prejudice by Jane Austen draws on Proverbs.

CHO: I feel like maybe if we uncover more of these Biblical allusions, I think it helps to, I don’t know, maybe not just have a better appreciation of her works but kind of helps us to maybe helps us to interpret her works differently.

In Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol, Ebenezer Scrooge’s old business partner shows up as a ghost fettered in chains.

CHO: That description actually comes from the Gospel of Mark when Jesus heals a demon-possessed man who was covered with chains.

Scrooge, just like the man in Mark 5, is a recipient of God’s grace. A modern day example: Poet Amanda Gorman’s “The Hill We Climb,” read at President Joe Biden’s inauguration. She quotes Micah.

CHO: I know a lot of high school teachers asked their students to watch and they gave them homework assignments based on that. But I thought, wow, this would have been a golden opportunity for students to think about, you know, what’s with that Micah reference?

Cho points out that great works of literature are meant to be read again and again.

CHO: Just like people teaching Hamlet. They keep reading Hamlet again, again and again, and they still are learning new things. Literature is a mystery sometimes.

Brian Parker says it’s the same with the Bible.

PARKER: It’s not read once and it’s conquered. There are things we have to dig a lot deeper into.

Interacting with the text over and over gives keen insights into who we are and the world around us. 

PARKER: And as we engage with that we’re kind of mending this heaven and earth divide and realizing a little bit more about who God is and who He’s created us to be.

This month, the book club is reading one of the Bible’s more complicated books: Isaiah. But they press on, undeterred.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Jenny Rough in Charlottesville, Virginia.


MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Thursday, July 8th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Commentator Cal Thomas now on how great civilizations rise and fall.

CAL THOMAS, COMMENTATOR: Is there anyone who can say what is always right and always wrong and present an unchanging standard by which all behavior can be judged?

I raise the question in light of last week’s non-ruling by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case of Washington state flower shop owner Barronelle Stutzman. That decision was especially disappointing after the court ruled in favor of Colorado baker Jack Phillips. He declined to bake a cake on the same religious grounds as Barronelle Stutzman declined to provide flowers.

How far are the courts willing to go with this? Should an Orthodox Jewish or Muslim caterer be forced to violate their religious beliefs when those faiths view marriage as an opposite-sex ritual? What if the same-sex couple also wants pork served at the reception? Jews and Muslims regard pork as unclean food. Would a court order demand they serve it anyway?

Why do these court challenges appear to have a higher political purpose? There must be flower shops in Washington state and bakeries in Colorado that cater to same-sex weddings. Why pick on the ones that don’t? Is this part of a larger goal to destroy what remains of what used to be known as traditional values?

Basic pillars that have supported America have included religious faith and the military. Both have been reflected in the stories and characters created by the iconic Walt Disney. These and many others are now under attack.

The Walt Disney Company recently announced a change in its welcoming messages at all properties from “Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls,” to “Good evening dreamers of all ages.” A company spokesperson (notice my avoidance of gender specificity) said the decision is in alignment with Disney’s “inclusion and diversity” policy.

Why is it that inclusion and diversity always seem to exclude people who believe differently? Such people are now viewed as criminals in some states if they seek to apply their faith to their businesses and in the public square.

Challenges to traditional values will continue as an older generation that lived by, or at least believed in them, passes away. Younger people who have been baptized by the “woke” culture in their public schools and universities seem to be willing to tolerate just about anything. What will be their new “standard”? Can we even call it a standard if it changes with the times?

The problem for individuals and nations when standards of right and wrong are abandoned is where it leads. Moral anarchy has been one of the contributing factors to the collapse of empires and great nations of the past. Apparently, we think we can escape the judgment of history and the judgment of God by “believing whatever our itching ears want to hear” and doing “whatever seems right in our own eyes.”

I’m Cal Thomas.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Tomorrow: John Stonestreet joins us for Culture Friday.

And, we’ll tell you about a groovy new documentary.

That and a whole lot more tomorrow.

I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

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