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Deadly attack on minorities in Syria, uncertain future of Afghan allies, and the transformation of an Apollo 16 astronaut. Plus, wife-carrying world champions, Janie B. Cheaney on kids riding bikes, and the Tuesday morning news


Retired NASA astronaut Charlie Duke, April 20, 2022 Associated Press / Photo by Jay Reeves

Editor's note: The following text is a transcript of a podcast story. To listen to the story, click on the arrow beneath the headline above.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

An attack in Syria leaves hundreds dead and renews scrutiny of America’s role in the region.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also today, Afghan refugees may be forced to return home soon, is that safe?

Later, the story of the youngest astronaut to walk on the moon.

DUKE: Usually the question comes: how did this change your life? Going to the moon?

And fewer kids are riding bikes for fun. WORLD’s Janie B. Cheaney says that’s too bad.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, July 22nd. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

REICHARD: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.


KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Ukraine latest » Negotiators from both Russia and Ukraine are set to meet once again this week for the first direct peace talks in nearly two months.

ZELENSKYY: [In Ukrainian]

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, announcing that a third round of talks, slated for tomorrow in Turkey.

But that announcement came after a night of bloodshed in Kyiv.

Firefighters fought to douse flames sparked by one of Russia’s biggest aerial assaults in months. The attacks killed at least two people and wounded dozens.

That comes as the Trump administration continues to dial up pressure on Vladimir Putin to end the war.

Last week, President Trump said the U.S. was prepared to unleash secondary sanctions against Moscow’s trading partners if Putin didn't agree to a peace deal within 50 days.

Republican Senator Lindsay Graham told Sunday Night in America…

GRAHAM: Putin can live through sanctions...but China, India, and Brazil—they're about to face a choice between the American economy and helping Putin. And I think think they're gonna pick the American economy.

The Kremlin claims Russia is ready to negotiate in good faith … and that Putin is also prepared to meet with Trump in person at an event in Beijing in September.

Reaction to shooting of customs agent in NYC » The Trump administration says it will continue ramping up immigration enforcement in sanctuary cities after an illegal immigrant allegedly shot an off-duty Customs and Border Protection agent in Manhattan.

Border Czar Tom Homan:

HOMAN: So sanctuary cities get exactly what they don't want. More agents in the community and more agents in the work site.

Police in New York City have arrested a second suspect in connection with that weekend shooting.

Officers detained Christhian Aybar-Berroa Monday naming him as the suspected getaway driver in the apparent robbery-gone-wrong.

Authorities had already arrested the suspected gunman, Miguel Fransisco Mora Nunez.

Both suspects entered the country illegally from the Dominican Republic. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem:

NOEM:  How many more lives will it take? How many more people have to be hurt and victimized before we have public safety be a number one priority in some of our largest cities?

The 42-year-old victim of the weekend shooting is recovering from gunshot wounds.

Rep. Luna referring Powell to DOJ for charges » Florida Republican Rep. Anna Paulina Luna has referred Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell to the Justice Department, accusing him of perjury over his Senate testimony about a $2.5 billion renovation at the Fed’s Washington headquarters.

Powell told lawmakers the project didn’t include luxury features like VIP dining rooms, rooftop gardens or marble upgrades—claims Luna says contradict official plans.

Luna said Monday:

LUNA: He should be held accountable. He should make his argument to the Attorney General. I'm not happy that I had to do this, but he shouldn't belong to Congress.

Powell defended the project, citing safety, asbestos removal and historic preservation.

The Justice Department did not immediately comment on the congresswoman’s referral.

President Trump has been highly critical of Powell over the Fed’s recent decision not to cut interest rates. The president, though, said he had no plans to fire him.

Harvard lawsuit » Harvard University is asking a federal judge to restore about $2.5 billion in frozen research grants in a legal fight with the Trump administration. WORLD’s Christina Grube has more.

CHRISTINA GRUBE: The Trump administration cut off the funding after Harvard refused to meet demands from a federal task force addressing antisemitism.

Those would have included changes to the school’s hiring and admissions practices and its handling of campus protests.

The university says the funding freeze threatens important research on cancer, as well as Parkinson’s and other diseases.

In court Monday, Harvard argued the cuts were retaliatory and violated its academic freedom. The government responded that it has authority to withdraw funding when federal priorities aren’t met, including protecting Jewish students.

U.S. District Judge Allison Burroughs pressed the government on a lack of documented evidence for the cuts and signaled possible free speech concerns.

A ruling in the case is expected within the next few weeks.

For WORLD, I’m Christina Grube.

Close call between commercial jet, B-52 » A close call in the skies over North Dakota: A commercial pilot had to make a sharp turn to avoid a B-52 bomber he said was in his path.

The incident occurred as Delta Flight 3788 approached Minot International Airport. The pilot with regional carrier SkyWest apologized to passengers, and explained the unexpected maneuver.

AUDIO: [fade in]  And so given his speed, it was the military. I don't know how fast they were going, but they were a lot faster than us. I felt it was the safest thing to do to turn behind it. So sorry about the aggressive maneuver. It caught me by surprise. [fade under and out]

The pilot noted that the small airport the SkyWest plane was approaching does not have radar and relies on visual flight directions.

He said he’s not sure why the Air Force did not provide advance warning.

A B-52 from Minot Air Force Base was in the area for a flyover of the State Fair.

Malcolm Jamal Warner obituary » Actor Malcolm-Jamal Warner has died at 54. He was best known for his breakout role as a teenager, playing Theo Huxtable on “The Cosby Show.”

AUDIO:  Dad, please, dad! Listen, dad, look … I wash dishes. Dad, I'll, I'll clean the basement. Look, look. I'll sign papers. Blank them. You can fill in whatever you like.

Warner was nominated for an Emmy and he also won a Grammy for his work as a musician.

Costa Rican authorities report he drowned at Playa Cocles on the Caribbean coast. A strong current pulled him into deeper waters while swimming.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: more violence in Syria  Plus, Later, the story of the youngest astronaut to walk on the moon.

This is The World and Everything in It.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Tuesday, the 22nd of July.

Glad to have you along for today’s edition of The World and Everything in It. Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

First up, a massacre in Syria.

Syrian government forces are being blamed for a brutal attack last week on the Druze minority in the country’s south. Reports say more than 350 people were killed. Many of them slaughtered inside a local hospital. Gruesome video has come out, apparently showing torture.

REICHARD: It’s the second mass killing of a religious or ethnic group in Syria in just four months. 

But so far, the world’s attention has focused less on the victims and more on Israel’s military response, with airstrikes on Syria’s military headquarters in Damascus.

EICHER: Joining us now to talk about the attacks is Richard Ghazal. He’s Executive Director of the nonprofit In Defense of Christians. He is also a retired U.S. Air Force intelligence officer and military lawyer.

REICHARD: Richard, good morning.

RICHARD GHAZAL: Good morning Mary, thanks for having me.

REICHARD: Richard, let’s start with some context. Who are the Druze?

GHAZAL: Well, the Jews are an ethnic minority, a religious minority in Syria. They don't just live in Syria. They exist historically in southern Syria, southern Lebanon and northern Israel. They're currently one of the largest ethnic minorities in Syria. They've been protected for several decades under the Assad government, the former Assad government. Now that that government is no more, of course, they are subject to retribution and all kinds of atrocities that we currently witness.

REICHARD: Some media outlets say this is primarily a tribal conflict between Bedouins and Druze…but others say rebel fighters now in the Syrian military are the ones carrying out the worst atrocities. Who’s responsible here?

GHAZAL: Well, it certainly is a tribal dispute, or at least that's how it began. It's following decades, even centuries, of conflict between these tribes, the Bedouin Sunnis, as well as the Druze, since the fall of the government that kind of held it all together, the civility, so to speak, quote, “civility.” It's been all out war, you might say, between them taking out years of aggression in recent weeks. In recent days, however, you've seen the Syrian transitional government become involved—some say passively, and some say quite actively and aggressively—in this conflict. So it's really morphed from a tribal tribal matter to one of political and religious violence.

REICHARD: The United States recently ended some sanctions on Syria following the change in government. If the Syrian military is responsible for these killings, what does that mean for the U.S.?

GHAZAL: Well, the U.S. needs to really come together and figure out its coherent Syria policy moving forward. I think it was a good move to lift sanctions and normalize diplomatic relations with the transitional government in Syria, but it's important also to place strict conditions and guardrails moving forward, because we know who's in charge of the transitional government. They have a problematic history, former Al-Qaeda members and jihadists from all across the world, frankly. So unless guardrails in strict conditions are placed, we're going to see more atrocities of this sort. And you know, we can't weigh the carrot without the strong stick behind it.

REICHARD: Israel carried out airstrikes on military targets in Damascus last week…what’s at stake for Israel in this conflict?

GHAZAL: Well, Israel shares a border with Syria, of course. For decades, the Golan Heights has been a conflict point with shared borders. Currently, Israel is requiring that the Suwayda district also remain demilitarized. Should Suwayda fall to HDS and the Syrian traditional government and its radical proxies that we currently see operating down there, it could spell a real, serious situation for Israel and the whole region.

REICHARD: Richard, I understand you are a practicing Syriac Orthodox Christian. What are Christians in Syria facing right now?

GHAZAL: They live in fear every day. When the government fell this past winter in December of 2024, there was some degree of excitement, because it presented a new day, a new beginning for Syria. But it was a very sober jubilation, of course, because they knew who was in charge, and they hadn't disappointed, so to speak. And I mean that in a very, in a very grim way. This government that is dominated by Islamic radicals has time and again, shown its true colors, despite the hope, despite the cautious optimism, whether we're talking about the massacre of Alawites in March or whether we're talking about the current massacre of Druze that we're seeing in the south of the country.

Syrian Christians have been suffering all along. It's not a matter of waiting their turn, because it's been sort of a simmering persecution, a simmering atrocity that's been happening to Christians. Something that occurred just a few weeks ago, which got very little media attention, of course, was the attack, the suicide bombing at St Elias Church, which was a Greek Orthodox Church in Damascus, the capital, Syrian capital. So unfortunately, I regret to say, these situations will continue. But it's up to the Western Community, the Western community of nations. If they want to welcome the Syrian government into the international fold, strong conditions must be put in place to prevent this.

REICHARD: Is there any other aspect of this story that you think warrants more attention?

GHAZAL: Well, I think that the situation is reported quite widely, because it is an international event that’s been 40 years in the making: the fall of the last government and the takeover of the new government. What I think probably would warrant more attention over the humanitarian atrocities happening. Now the media reports, of course, whenever there's a big event like the massacre of Alawites or Druze or possibly the bombing of a church, although that gets less airplay. But the story arc of minorities in Syria should be given more attention.

The fact that we now have a Sunni radical government that has a history of Jihadist ideology and activity is now in charge, which, frankly, spells disaster for these minorities. The current Syrian traditional government has been on its best behavior by some measure, with isolated incidents like this as bad as they are, but in order to be welcomed into the international fold, you have to operate as an international actor. And thus far from what we've seen, we haven't observed that.

REICHARD: Richard, I think I read that you speak Aramaic. Is that true?

GHAZAL: That’s correct, yes.

REICHARD: Could you say a line in Aramaic and address it to our listening audience, which is primarily Christians?

GHAZAL: [SPEAKING ARAMAIC]

What I said was, “Hello, greetings to my fellow Christians. We pray together that there will be peace in the land of the origin of Christianity, the cradle of Christianity, the Middle East and holy land. And we pray for the peace of the communities living there.

REICHARD: Very good. I’m so glad I asked. Richard Ghazal is Executive Director of In Defense of Christians. Thank you so much for this analysis!

GHAZAL: Thank you Mary.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: legal protections for Afghan refugees.

Many of them are waiting to find out where they stand with U.S. immigration authorities. They came to the country under temporary protected status, allowing them to live and work in the U.S. when conditions in their home countries were deemed too dangerous to return.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: The Biden administration granted that TPS to Afghans after ordering the U.S. military out of Afghanistan and allowing the Taliban to regain control.

But under an immigration policy shift, the Trump administration rescinded it.

So what happens next? WORLD’s Josh Schumacher reports.

JOSH SCHUMACHER: In May, the Department of Homeland Security reported that things were looking up in Afghanistan; economic activity and tourism appear to be improving while armed conflict is going down.

ARTHUR: So there are 41 million people living in Afghanistan and you know, the vast majority of the population there isn't at any risk at all.

Andrew Arthur is a resident fellow at the Center for Immigration Studies. He says that while life in Afghanistan may not be attractive, it’s not so bad under Taliban rule that the U.S. must extend temporary protected status indefinitely.

ARTHUR: Not every country that has a government that we necessarily wouldn't want to live under is a country that should be granted temporary protective status… because that's not the purpose of temporary protected status.

Not everyone agrees with that assessment.

Daniel Salazar is a policy advisor at Global Refuge.

SALAZAR: Half the country, you know, more than 20 million people being in need of humanitarian assistance, the Taliban running the country with, you know, half the population experiencing a state of gender apartheid, persecution for religious and ethnic minorities. The list kind of goes on even though there isn’t the big scale kind of conflict that you used to see between the Afghan central government and the Taliban.

Even as the Department of Homeland Security says the situation has improved, the White House still identifies the Taliban as terrorists. Salazar points to a recent proclamation put out by President Trump.

SALAZAR: Afghanistan ended up on the list of the travel ban countries, the proclamation that came out on June 4th and went into effect on June 9th. And in part, it’s because it says that the Taliban is classified as a terrorist organization from the United States government's perspective, and it's not a competent state authority that can provide the vetting and whatnot that helps screen and vet foreign nationals before they come to the United States.

Salazar believes it’s self-contradictory for the administration to insist that Afghanistan is a safe place to return individuals to… while also saying it’s incapable of properly vetting its own citizens before they travel to the United States.

Other advocates say Afghans who helped the United States fight the Taliban still should receive TPS, because going back to Afghanistan now likely would not end well.

SOERENS: The Taliban is still in control. They still persecute religious minorities and people whom they suspect of having been allied with the United States military…

Matthew Soerens is vice president of advocacy and policy at World Relief. He says sending people back to Afghanistan means, basically, signing them up for persecution.

SOERENS: They absolutely persecute women and girls and deny them the ability to pursue education or be treated anything like equally.

Even if Afghans in the U.S. are not deported, losing TPS could cost them their jobs.

SOERENS: So you take people who are self-sufficient economically, providing for their family, who suddenly are not legally allowed to do so.

President Trump said this past weekend in a social media post that he would assist Afghan nationals currently waiting in the United Arab Emirates and Qatar for the opportunity to enter the United States. Many of those nationals assisted U.S. troops deployed to their home country.

Advocates for Afghan nationals both inside and outside the United States applauded Trump’s statement but called for action… not just words supporting Afghans across the globe.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.


SOUND: (Finnish announcer and crowd clapping)

REICHARD: America for the win! This time in Finland earlier this month.

ROESLER: Feels good! She did a great job. Went underwater and she didn’t panic.

That’s Caleb Roesler, fresh off a win at the Wife-Carrying World Championship where he and his wife Justine made history as the first non-European couple to take gold.

ROESLER: Never done anything like that—jump in a water puddle with my wife.

The couple used a carrying technique where she rides upside-down on his back and she hung on using her legs. That kept his arms free to run more naturally.

The result: a new course record through hurdles and sand pits ,winning honor, glory and prizes!

As for Justine? No comment at press time. I think I can understand the silence. He got the gold. She got the grit.

It’s The World and Everything in It.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Tuesday, July 22nd. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: exploring the unknown.

JOHN F. KENNEDY: I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the Earth.

APOLLO 11: Two, one, zero … liftoff, we have a liftoff!

NEIL ARMSTRONG: Tranquility base here. The eagle has landed.

CHARLIE DUKE: Roger Tranquility, we copy you on the ground. You got a bunch of guys about to turn blue. We’re breathing again. Thanks a lot.

In the race to space, NASA’s Apollo program landed the first men on the moon in 1969. Over the next three years, twelve astronauts made the long journey. Only four are still living today.

REICHARD: WORLD’s Emma Eicher spoke with one of them.

EMMA EICHER: The moon changes people.

When astronaut James Irwin landed in 1971, he felt the presence of God.

JAMES IRWIN: Gentlemen, I can well imagine that a foreign planet must be a weird thing to see. Oh boy. It’s beautiful out here.

Something similar happened to Apollo 14 pilot Edgar Mitchell. He said he felt the “oneness” of the universe.

Other astronauts have claimed spiritual moments in space. The phenomenon even has a name: the overview effect.

But when astronaut Charlie Duke made the pilgrimage in 1972, the overview effect didn’t affect him. At all.

CHARLIE DUKE: Usually the question comes, how did this change your life? Going to the moon? And my response, I said, Well, that didn't really change my life, but let me tell you what did.

Charlie grew up in the Carolinas and attended a Baptist church with his family.

But he didn’t read the Bible much. He didn’t pray much either.

Not even when he strapped into the cockpit of Apollo 16, NASA’s fifth lunar mission. Charlie was 36, the youngest lunar module pilot ever. Sitting beside him, Commander Ken Mattingly and Command module pilot John Young ticked down the seconds to launch.

AUDIO: [Countdown]

Charlie’s wife, Dotty and their two sons watched the blastoff at Cape Canaveral. Dotty was nervous, but her husband’s dream was coming true. And she had her own hopes pinned on this journey:

DOTTY: I was struggling in our marriage. I was struggling in our marriage before he went to the moon, but when he was selected to be an astronaut, then was it just, ‘okay. We'll support this when he gets back from the moon, then we can really work on our relationship.’

Vibrations shuddered through the spacecraft.

AUDIO: Ten, nine … we have ignitions start … and we have a liftoff!

AUDIO: [Rocket blasting off]

They shot into orbit. And light shone into the cockpit.

CHARLIE: Into my window floats the earth, about 20,000 miles away, and there’s this jewel just suspended up there. It was just really beautiful. And it was the blue of the oceans, the white of the snow and the clouds and the brown of the land … the blackness of space, you don't see the stars when the sun's shining in space. You can see the Moon, the Sun and the Earth.

Three days later, they approached the moon. Charlie helped navigate the Lunar Module Orion to safe ground. When they touched down, he shouted:

AUDIO: ‘Old Orion is finally here, Houston, fantastic!’

CHARLIE: I’m screaming ‘Old Orion is finally here, Houston, fantastic!’ at the top of my lungs. [laughing]

The crew explored the Descartes Highlands, rambling up Stone Mountain in a moon buggy.

AUDIO: [Radio chatter between Young and Duke on the rover/collecting rocks, laughing, joking]

DUKE: We are really going up a hill, I’ll tell ya. Wow, what a place, what a view! Isn’t it John?

YOUNG: It’s absolutely unreal.

They also collected rock samples at the North Ray crater to bring back to earth.

AUDIO: [Radio chatter] It’s really some crater…

Then, after 71 hours, the crew got ready to go home.

DOTTY: Even went to church the day they lifted off from the moon. I went to church that morning and prayed that they'd come home safely.

But in the back of Dotty’s mind, she didn’t know whether God was real. And when Charlie got back, Dotty didn’t thank God. She thanked NASA.

Back on Earth, a looming question hung in the air …

CHARLIE: How do you top a flight to the Moon? I climbed the top of the ladder.

Charlie was mission control for Apollo 11, helping Neil Armstrong land the lunar module. He knew Buzz Aldrin. He rubbed shoulders with all those guys.

But he’d have to take his eyes off the stars, because waiting for him at home were more earthly problems.

DOTTY: It was hard being there, not so much that he was gone all the time, but his heart was gone all the time …

While Charlie was up there, Dotty thought things down here would finally get better.

DOTTY: I had put all my hopes on well, when he comes back from the moon, he's done this, then we can start focusing on our marriage.

But that didn’t happen.

DOTTY: So he comes back from the moon and I could tell he hadn't changed at all.

Dotty tried to find meaning in other ways. She worked at church more and took other jobs. She started studying life philosophies.

DOTTY: I'd come to the conclusion there wasn't an answer to life, and there wouldn't be anything here that would fulfill me and make me happy. And so I thought of suicide.

Then, Dotty went to a church event where people shared their testimonies. They said Jesus had changed their lives.

DOTTY: I thought in my mind, well, okay, I've tried this, this, this, this, well, I haven't tried Jesus. So I should give it a try before I kill myself.

She started praying and for the first time in a long time, she felt joy. Finally, she believed.

Charlie wondered at her transformation. He didn’t really understand it.

CHARLIE: Things were getting better in our marriage and relationship, and I liked it.

Dotty waited for God to reveal himself to Charlie. A friend invited them to a weekend Bible study marathon.

It was called, “Walk Through the Bible.” They studied the scriptures from beginning to end. And when it was over …

CHARLIE: We're sitting in our car ready to go home, and I just looked over at Dotty. I said, you know, I believe all that's true. I believe that Jesus is the Son of God. And I don't think I remember saying, ‘come into my life,’ but it was just an admittance, a confession, that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. And when I said that, I experienced the peace of God for the very first time in my life.

Nowadays, when someone asks him about the moon, Charlie uses the opportunity to point to something else above us.

CHARLIE: Being an astronaut, Moon Walker… that didn't change my life. What changed my life is Jesus. I walked on the moon three days, but I walk with Jesus forever.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Emma Eicher.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Tuesday, July 22nd. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Up next, how a summer rite of passage became a relic.

With kids out of school, many parents fill their kids’ days with camps, youth sports, and other structured activities. But WORLD Commentator Janie B. Cheaney says they may be missing something even more formative.

JANIE B. CHEANEY: Do you remember learning to ride a bike? Chances are, there was a parent holding on to the handlebars beside you, walking as you got the feel of the pedals under your feet, trotting as you pushed a little faster, and finally letting go as you sailed off into wobbly mobility.

When I finally got up the nerve to ride our old single speed, around age seven, my parents weren’t available. The neighborhood kids coached me as I mounted up and learned to balance. Then they all jumped on their own bikes and raced to the street, assuming I would follow. And I did, with new-found confidence. There was just one thing they failed to mention: how to stop.

Not being especially observant of bicycle basics, I assumed you just hopped off. I was not prepared for how fast one could go on a downward slope—hopping off was not an option. So I screamed all the way to the end of the street, where I crashed into a limestone embankment. I just missed being hit by an oncoming vehicle, and still remember the shocked faces of the elderly couple behind the windshield.

Not the first time the Lord saved me from doom. I recovered, got back on, and somewhere in my journey around the block discovered the coaster brake. From that point on, I owned the neighborhood. The bicycle years from six to twelve were classic childhood, when my friends and I were old enough to venture out of our own backyards and young enough to always come home. In between, lots of free time to expand our territory and skin our knees.

But you may not notice much preadolescent bike-riding these days. The National Sporting Goods Association reports that the number of pedal pushers age 7 to 17 has reduced by almost half since the 1990s. Part of the reason is that there aren’t as many 7 to 17-year-olds. Another reason, in the opinion of freelance journalist Erin Sagen, is that speed limits, zoning laws, and larger vehicles have favored auto traffic over bike traffic. Writing in The Atlantic, Sagen urges parents to go the extra mile in finding their children a safe place to ride.

But unless it’s a place they can get to by themselves, recreational biking becomes just another planned activity in the larger program of 21st century childhood. At National Review, Jack Butler notes the same lack of bike riders on the street and connects it to the deeper issue of grownups not valuing kids enough to share spaces with them. Or let them out of their sight. Or take the time to teach by example while allowing them to learn by experience.

It’s not just their health, growth, and independence at stake, it’s the age-old model of childhood, with the freedom to do childish things, even while gradually learning to put them away. There’s plenty of activities that curate learning experiences for young people…but there’s no program for growing up; kids just have to do it: to mount up, and take off, and crash, and get up again.

I’m Janie B. Cheaney.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Tomorrow Washington Wednesday: new efforts to make government more transparent, and a tad more frugal. And, we’ll meet artists who turn fossils into life-like illustrations. That and more tomorrow.

I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

The World and Everything in It comes to you from WORLD Radio. WORLD’s mission is Biblically objective journalism that informs, educates, and inspires.

The Psalmist writes: “The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; the precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes; the fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the rules of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether.” —Psalm 19:7-9

Go now in grace and peace.


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