The World and Everything in It: January 4, 2024

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MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning! The United Methodist Church is divided over Biblical sexuality. And now thousands of churches have left the denomination.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Also, a lawsuit in California about free speech at the library. Plus, a camp to teach boys about positive masculinity.

AUDIO: They see these boys who are Christian men actually growing in their own faith. They see them as an as a role model.

And WORLD Commentator Cal Thomas says Harvard president Claudine Gay's resignation exposes the flaws in higher education.

REICHARD: It’s Thursday, January 4th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

BROWN: And I’m Myrna Brown. Good morning!

REICHARD: Now here’s Kent Covington with today’s news.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Border GOP » House Republicans are ramping up pressure on the Biden administration to curb the border crisis.

Roughly 60 GOP lawmakers paid a visit to the U.S. Mexico border in Texas, including Congressman Jim Jordan. He said illegal border crossings under President Biden are on pace to reach 12 million by the end of his first term.

JORDAN: That’s the equivalent, that equals the population of the state I’m from, the great state of Ohio.

Speaker Mike Johnson charged that right now … Mexican cartels control the border, deciding who is allowed to enter.

JOHNSON: 312 suspects on the terrorist watch list that have been apprehended. We have no idea how many terrorists have come into the country and set up terrorism cells.

Border authorities recorded more than 300,000 migrant encounters in December, shattering a record for a single month.

Republicans are calling for, among other things, an end to so-called catch and release policies. They also want the Biden administration to bring back the remain in Mexico policy for asylum seekers.

Border: White House response, checkpoints » The White House, meantime, is pushing back. Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre called the Republican trip to the border a political stunt.

PIERRE: You have Speaker Johnson, who continues with House Republicans to make this a political issue.

Today, the United States is expected to reopen four U.S.-Mexico border checkpoints that border officials had to shut down amid a crush of migrant traffic.

Authorities will reopen a crossing in Texas, two in Arizona, and one in California.

Debt tops $34T » Speaker Johnson made clear on Wednesday that House Republicans have two top priorities: One: secure the border, and two: rein in overspending in Washington.

That comes as the U.S. national debt just hit an alarming milestone.

JOHNSON: $34 trillion dollars in debt. $34 trillion dollars today. It’s a landmark that would have been unimaginable to previous generations.

Since 2008, that national debt has grown by nearly 350%, and Washington is projected to add another one-and-a-half trillion dollars to the debt this fiscal year.

Johnson said Republicans will be pushing hard to restore fiscal sanity, as Congress works to pass new government funding bills in the weeks ahead. 

It’s unclear, though, if they’ll tie spending cuts to Ukraine aid.

But they are demanding border and immigration policy changes before approving funds for more aid to Ukraine.

Ukraine-Russia prisoners » Meantime, Ukraine and Russia have announced the exchange of hundreds of prisoners. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin reports.

KRISTEN FLAVIN: The United Arab Emirates helped mediate the agreement which saw the two sides swap more than two hundred prisoners, mostly soldiers.

Among the Ukrainians released were seven soldiers captured during a now-famous incident at Snake Island.

That’s where the Ukrainian troops refused calls from a Russian warship to surrender at the beginning of the war.

Ukraine says this is the largest prisoner exchange since the war started almost two years ago.

For WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

SOUND: [Crowd screaming/running]

Iran bombings » In Iran, a pair of explosions ripped through the southern city of Kerman Wednesday, killing more than 100 people.

State media reports the blasts occurred near the burial site of Iranian General Qasem Soleimani as a crowd gathered to commemorate the fourth anniversary of his death in a U.S. airstrike.

Spokeswoman for the U.N. secretary general, Florencia Soto, told reporters:

SOTO: The Secretary-General calls for those responsible to be held accountable and the Secretary-General expresses his deep condolences to the bereaved families.

Iranian officials called the bombings a terrorist attack, but no group has claimed responsibility for the incident.

Soleimani led the Iranian Revolutionary Guards elite Quds Force and planned attacks that killed American and Iraqi personnel.

Menendez latest » Embattled New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez is facing more corruption charges.

Prosecutors now accuse the Democrat of accepting gifts from the government of Qatar.

The senator already stands accused of taking bribes and acting as an unregistered government agent for Egypt.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer:

Schumer: Senator Menendez’s behavior as reported in these indictments is way below the standard of Senator and it's deeply disappointing and disturbing to me.

Menendez insists he is innocent and has repeatedly refused to step down since he was indicted in September.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: the schism of a major protestant denomination. Plus, masculinity and belly flops.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Thursday the 4th of January, 2024.

This is listener-supported WORLD Radio, and we are happy you’ve joined us today! Thank you, and good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown. First up on The World and Everything in It: United no more.

The United Methodist Church is among the largest protestant denominations in America. It also has churches around the world. Over the last several years, significant divisions cropped up within the UMC over many issues, especially Biblical sexuality.

REICHARD: Nearly five years ago, a General Conference of the church met in St. Louis. Among other topics, they talked about whether to enforce Biblical doctrines of sexuality for church leadership.  Sound here from that conference:

DELEGATE 1: Today, the church in Africa is growing in leaps and bounds because we are committed to biblical Christianity.

DELEGATE 2: With the traditional plan that adds teeth, you've not only alienated progressives but also centrists.

Delegates landed on a plan to allow churches to leave the denomination graciously with an application process and deadline of December 31st, 2023.

That was Sunday. Now more than 7,000 churches have left the UMC, many of them joining a new, more conservative denomination called the Global Methodist Church.

BROWN: How did this split come about, and what other fallout might we expect?

Joining us now to talk about it is Chris Ritter. He’s the Directing Pastor of Geneseo First Methodist Church in Illinois.

REICHARD: Chris, good morning.

CHRIS RITTER: Good morning, thanks for having me on.

REICHARD: Well, let’s start with some background. What is the history behind the denomination’s name, the United Methodist Church?

RITTER: The United Methodist Church formed in 1968 as a merger between the Methodist Church and the Evangelical United Brethren Church, and we merged at the height of the Ecumenical Movement. And I think the mood of the time was that a lot of these denominations would eventually merge and unity was understood in terms of institutional unity. The United Methodist Church only acknowledged the Evangelical United Brethren part of our church but also expressed an aspiration for greater unity.

BROWN: Well, you’re talking about the 1960s. The last time the Methodist church went through a major split was before the Civil War over the issue of slavery. What led so many churches to leave the denomination in recent years?

RITTER: Well, I was a delegate to the General Conference 2016 and 2019 and 2016, there was definite fracture lines in the church over biblical interpretation and human sexuality. And there was almost a current that the church would divide at that time. And the General Conference asked the bishops to develop a commission on a way forward to bring us some plans on how we might resolve this. And that commission met over a period of the next month's letting leading up to General Conference 2019, where three different plans were presented. And that was supposed to be the meeting that solved this issue. And of course, it didn't.

REICHARD: What do we know about the churches that have left so far…are they all conservative, or were there also some self-titled progressive churches that left as well?

RITTER: There are a few progressive churches that left but the overwhelming majority of congregations that have exited have been more traditional leaning churches. General Conference 2019 sort of thought the progressives would be the one leaving. But through a series of events, traditionalists got themselves together and decided, this is our time to exit. And we've been using a process called disaffiliation. That was kind of a little backdoor release valve kind of thing that was approved at General Conference 2019. But it became a major factor over the last few years.

BROWN: Earlier this week, Mainstream U-M-C, one of the liberal groups within the denomination that decided to stay, sent out an email celebrating the new year.

Here’s what it says at one point: “We can remove the harmful language and usher in a new era of global cooperation in mission through regionalization.” 

Chris, what is regionalization, and why are some African churches concerned about it?

RITTER: Well, the United Methodist Church, as it is currently constituted, is more economically, theologically divided than it's ever been. Most of our members live in Africa, and they have not had an opportunity to disaffiliate like the United Methodist traditionalists have. And so how do you keep a church like that together? And the solution that's being offered by many in the United Methodist Church is is regionalize. That will, there'll be one church, but each region will have its own ethical standards and application of the Book of Discipline. And so there'll be regional conferences where the real rules will be set, but there will still be a connecting point. That would require a few compromises. One is bishops. You can't regionalize bishops by our Constitution, there's a restrictive rule that says you can't alter the Episcopacy. So for Africans to accept regionalization, they would have to accept the gay bishops that have been elected in the United Methodist Church, and that will probably be a bridge too far for many of them.

REICHARD: Well, the church has a General Conference coming up in a few months…what do you expect to see happen as this story continues to develop?

RITTER: Well, in the United Methodist Church which I'm no longer a part of, I'm part of the global Methodist Church, but I watch the United Methodist Church closely and there's two competing moves that are coming to the April General Conference. One is to change teaching on marriage, and the other is to regionalize the church. So it's a chicken and egg conundrum. If they change Church teaching before they regionalize, that's going to further encourage the majority membership of the church to leave in Africa. And regionalization is not just something that General Conference can do. That has to be ratified in all the annual conferences that, so that's a two year process. So even if you can pass it, which is a super majority, not just a majority, a very uncertain future about how that will be received and all the annual conferences. So I think 2024 is going to be a bigger year than 2023, and 2023 was a really big year.

BROWN: Indeed! Chris Ritter is the Directing Pastor of First Methodist Church in Geneseo, Illinois. Chris, thank you for your time!

RITTER: Thank you.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: Free speech at the library.

Last month, members of the group Moms for Liberty sued two library officials in Yolo County, California.They allege violations of their free speech rights.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Now, before we get into that story, a quick word about Moms for Liberty. The organization is facing controversy down in Florida, where co-founder Bridget Ziegler has admitted to serious sexual indiscretion, along with her husband Christian, who is facing a criminal investigation. WORLD asked Moms for Liberty to comment, and I’ll read part of its response:

“We have been truly shaken to read of the serious, criminal allegations against Christian Ziegler. We believe any allegation of sexual assault should be taken seriously and fully investigated.

“Bridget Ziegler resigned from her role as co-founder with Moms for Liberty within a month of our launch in January of 2021. She has remained an avid warrior for parental rights across the country.

“To our opponents who have spewed hateful vitriol over the last several days: We reject your attacks. We will continue to empower ALL parents to build relationships that ensure the survival of our nation and a thriving education system.We are laser-focused on fundamental parental rights, and that mission is and always will be bigger than any one person.” —Tina Descovich and Tiffany Justice

REICHARD: Well, back in California at the library, parental rights aren’t the only concern…free speech is. Back in August, the Yolo County chapter of Moms for Liberty reserved space in a local library to conduct a forum on keeping sports and spaces safe for girls. During the event, a library worker tried to shut down the speaker, Sophia Lorey.

Sound courtesy of the California Family Counsel:

LOREY: Allowing biological men in women’s sports does not create an equal playing field but instead robs young biological girls of their athletic aspirations.

SCOTT LOVE: You’re continuing to say that…(people talking over each other). I’m asking you to leave or we’ll shut the entire program down.

BROWN: The library worker succeeded in shutting down the event citing library policy on respect for people, materials, and furniture. But Moms for Liberty contends that the library upheld that policy in an unfair way, since they didn’t remove disrespectful protesters.

Joining us now to discuss the case is Alan Gura. He’s the Vice President for Litigation at the Free Speech Institute, and counsel in Moms for Liberty’s lawsuit.

REICHARD: Alan, good morning.

ALAN GURA: Good morning.

REICHARD: So what are the arguments on each side? Moms for Liberty and the library?

GURA: The library is allowed to pick and choose what books it wants to put on the shelf. To the extent that you know, the library has to choose what it's going to circulate to the public, that's the library's call. But if the library is gonna have a room open for the public to use for people to come and meet and have events, and talk about their ideas, talk about whatever it is they want to discuss, then the library cannot censor the speech that occurs in those rooms. The library has to let people speak and express whatever viewpoint they wish. The First Amendment doesn't require the library to have a room available for the public, but if the library chooses to open up what we call a forum for the community to come in and talk, they have to let everybody talk and they have to let people express their viewpoints. Rules that require speakers to respect other points of view are unconstitutional. First of all, respect, if you can even define it, is a viewpoint, right? You're allowed to be disrespectful. The First Amendment lets you offend people. There's no point in protecting speech that everybody agrees with, that nobody really cares much about. The First Amendment is there to defend you when you want to say the things that will offend other people, that will cause a reaction, that will tempt people to try to shut you down. That's when the First Amendment is most important. So respect is a viewpoint, disrespect is a viewpoint, it cannot be mandated but also it's a very vague requirement, right? What is respectful, what is disrespectful, that's not something that can have defined specifically, it's really in the eye of the beholder. That makes it unconstitutionally vague and doesn't give anybody notice as to what behavior is allowed or disallowed. So we think the rule about respect has to go and, of course, any kind of policy that we would pursue to discriminate on the basis of viewpoint to prevent people from speaking about transgender care, women, men in sports, all those types of interferences with people speech are not constitutional.

REICHARD: Well, how is the library defending what it did?

GURA: Well, the library actually is now feeling that they understand that they went overboard and that this isn't supposed to happen. They are making some noises about the fact that the next event will not have these problems. There is an event the clients are planning to hold in March, and the library is saying that that event will not be interfered with. But we're still waiting to see if their actual policies are going to be changed. They're telling us that they are reexamining their policies. But they must understand that there's no defense for the type of behavior in which the library has been engaging.

REICHARD: Case precedent matters, and each side will cite prior rulings to bolster their case. What legal precedents can Moms for Liberty use? The other side?

GURA: Well, just about every single first amendment decision that's come down by the court has clarified that the government may not engage in viewpoint discrimination. Most recently, we've had an a pair of cases at the Supreme Court that dealt with allegedly offensive language and trademarks. That, you know, people wanted to use what was perceived as a vulgarity or racial epithet in a trademark. And the the trademark office refused granting a trademark protection to those terms. And the Supreme Court said, No, that speech is protected. And just because somebody is going to be offended, doesn't mean you can discriminate against the speech. And this is very important for people to understand. The government cannot censor your speech because it fears a reaction from people who don't want you to talk, right? There's no such thing as a heckler's veto. There was a case many years ago where some Nazis wanted to have a protest in Georgia. And the government said, Listen, you know, your speech is going to attract all kinds of negative attention, given the content of your speech, and the Supreme Court said, No, you know, there's no, there's no such thing as allowing the fear of negative reaction speech, allowing that to be a basis for punishing speech or for taxing in any way. So the library can't tell us well, there's a lot of trans people that community they'll be upset. Well, that's too bad. If people are disruptive, the police should be involved. The library has to maintain order, but it can't use the threat of disorder to silence people.

REICHARD: We covered many free speech cases in 2023 on this program…but what makes the Yolo County case stand out?

GURA: It's really the most, one of the most brazen examples of censorship that I've seen, and I've seems some fairly brazen ones. But the library was absolutely adamant that they could silence speech that they didn't like. And the librarian even made up this argument that there's allegedly some law in California that forbids people for misgendering. That's not true. If there were such a law, you'd have to stand back and you know, watch all the lawyers run to the courthouse to get that struck down. So just the sheer gall of trying to censor speech that they disliked. That's just not the law. They're in the wrong business. If you cannot handle people disagreeing with your political viewpoints, you should not be working at a library.

REICHARD: Alan Gura is the Vice President for Litigation at the Free Speech Institute. Alan, thanks for joining us today!

GURA: Thank you so much.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: The first baby in town born in the new year usually makes local news, but this year in New Jersey? A twist!

Billy and Eva Humphrey welcomed baby boy Ezra before the stroke of midnight on December 31st. And then:

EVA: I was still pushing when everyone’s doing the countdown and all said “Happy New Year!” in the middle of me trying to push out Baby B.

“Baby B” arrives minutes later. His name is Ezekiel. So the twins are born on different days and different years!

Mom Eva admitted to a more practical thought once baby number one arrived:

EVA: Once he was born, you know, thinking of the tax write off? I was like maybe we can get another tax write off!

That didn’t happen. But no matter:

EVA: Seeing them in person and seeing their faces I was like, they’re so cute! I’m so glad they’re healthy.

It’s The World and Everything in It.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: Today is Thursday, January 4th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Myrna Brown.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: masculinity.

We hear a lot about toxic masculinity these days, but what about Biblical manhood? Last summer, WORLD Associate Correspondent Steven Halbert visited the last remaining boy’s camp of the Southern Baptist Convention. That’s where boys learn to cultivate positive masculinity.

AUDIO: [Sound of lake]

STEVEN HALBERT: On a hot afternoon in late July, fathers and sons gather around Lake Chillywater to cool off after a full day of activities at Camp McCall.

The lake is preparing to shut down for the day, and as the camp counselors who double as lifeguards blow their last whistle, the men and boys exiting the lake begin chanting, “Belly flop! Belly flop!”

It is a Camp McCall tradition that one of these lifeguards must belly flop into the lake from the guard stand at closing time.

In honor of that tradition, a young 20-something leaps from the stand with arms thrown back, chest and stomach exposed, and hits the water with a smack that can be heard around the valley. Raucous cheers erupt from the onlookers.

And benign though it may be, it’s this sort of seemingly senseless bravado that might get labeled toxic masculinity.

A show of strength for the sole purpose of showing strength.

Camp Director Matt Allen acknowledges that a camp for boys…

MATT ALLEN: Goes back to the idea of masculinity and what masculinity is often portrayed as in our society.

So, what is the first thing that comes to mind when you think of a “camp for boys”? Allen has some ideas about what that might be:

ALLEN: And, you know, we don't as an organization embrace the camouflage, hunter, gun advocate, because I don't think that truly communicates the idea of masculinity.

Such a statement might come as a surprise from a 19-year-veteran, but it is precisely because of his military background that Allen feels the way that he does.

But how do you go beyond surface-level definitions of masculinity and manhood to pursue something deeper?

ALLEN: I struggle a lot trying to communicate that value as well.

The counselors and staff at Camp McCall will serve over 2,300 boys throughout the summer. However, discipling that smaller group of 40 counselors is where Allen sees his ministry. And most of those counselors return as staff for three or four years in a row.

ALLEN: I admit that we do a little bit of bait and switch on them, “Hey, come work for us; it’ll be great, you'll help run this camp.” But what we're really doing is we are recruiting them into a multi-year mentoring and discipleship program.

Allen believes that it’s that intentional discipleship that leads to positive masculinity. Practically, that works itself out amongst a staff who seize on small moments to point campers toward Christ.

AUDIO: [ARCHERY]

A foray into archery becomes a conversation about how sin means “missing the mark.” A walk through the creek becomes a reflection on God’s creativity and the beauty of creation. And a dodgeball game turns into a discussion on how to avoid the temptations that often target us in life.

Most of the camp’s staff were once campers themselves. But now, these young, college-age men run the camp. Whether it’s activities, service, hikes, or swimming, the counselors are modeling what they are learning. That forms a communal bond amongst the staff that you can really see play itself out in the evening chapel services.

During each service, one of the staff members gives his testimony. This is a vulnerable and confessional time; and you can tell that the young men are nervous. But you can also hear the joy in their voice as they talk about what Christ has done:

AUDIO: [Testimony]

As the testimony begins, the rest of the staff come and stand behind him to quite literally “back him up” as he continues to talk of what God has done.

And as the testimony ends, this support group becomes a choir that praises God for the good news they just heard.

AUDIO: [Chapel choir]

Here at camp McCall, positive masculinity is spending time in a confessional community that looks for opportunities to serve others.

Seventy-five-year-old Bill Rigsby recognizes it. He’s a pastor, and he’s returned to the camp year-after-year for 42 years. This year he’s joined by his adult son and two of his grandsons.

BILL RIGSBY: I’ve had young men from my church in that choir before. And in this staff up here, who have gone to be pastors, and I'm thinking of one particularly who’d gone to be a missionary. And he really learned it here. He learned it as a camper, as a staffer.

Rigsby has an idea on why this combination of service and time within the context of a confessional community has such an impact on the next generation:

RIGSBY: They see these boys who are Christian men actually growing in their own faith. They see them as a role model, having fun as a Christian and then also worshiping as a Christian.

Maybe, then, the belly flop tradition is not as senseless as it first appears. Rather, perhaps it is an example of one more way that these staff serve the campers. They use it to foster the sort of camaraderie that forges relationships that actually result in positive masculinity.

But it’s not a formula. This is deep and genuine relationship.

AUDIO: [Doxology]

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Steven Halbert at Camp McCall in Sunset, South Carolina.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Thursday, January 4th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown. Up next, WORLD Commentator Cal Thomas on this week’s resignation of Harvard’s president.

CAL THOMAS: On Tuesday, Harvard’s student newspaper reported that president Claudine Gay resigned “after fierce criticism of the University’s response to the Hamas attack on Israel and backlash from her disastrous congressional testimony spiraled into allegations of plagiarism….” Gay’s resignation does not solve the problem at America’s oldest college and other elite schools. She and many other university presidents are only a symptom of what’s wrong with our system of education, from bottom to top.

Ivy League schools were established on a foundation of biblical principles. Almost from its founding in 1636, Harvard’s motto has been “Veritas,” or Truth. The school’s founders knew that objective truth exists and where to find it. A proper education was thought to require attention to body, mind, and spirit. Today, the body is cared for at the gym, the mind has been poisoned by a secular progressive worldview, and the spirit is more likely to be sought in a bottle of beer than in anything holy.

Yale traveled the same path as Harvard. Founded in 1701, the New Haven school has as its motto “Lux et veritas,” or “light and truth.” It was believed by Yale’s founders that the essentials of proper learning should include the light of a liberal education (liberal meant something different then) and the truth could be found in New England’s religious tradition.

Dartmouth, founded in 1769, had as its motto “Vox clamantis in deserto,” which means “a voice crying out in the wilderness.” It is a biblical reference to John the Baptist who introduced Jesus Christ to the world. Wikipedia explains “the university primarily trained congregationalist ministers during its early history before it gradually secularized.”

These and many other once great universities have departed from their founding principles and what once defined a well-rounded education. For this and other reasons such as rising costs, college degrees are seemingly not worth what they once were. No wonder so many young people are pursuing other avenues, including trade schools.

Forbes magazine reported: “Undergraduate college enrollment dropped 8% from 2019 to 2022, with declines even after returning to in-person classes.” The magazine also said, “The slide in the college-going rate since 2018 is the steepest on record, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.”

American public universities have followed the path of these private schools. In too many instances, they indoctrinate young people in a secular progressive worldview that produces votes for Democrats. We don’t know how many students begin college as liberals, but the overall trend is clear. According to Pew Research Center, “In 2022, voters with a college degree or more education favored Democratic candidates while those with no college degree preferred Republicans.” This continues “a long-standing trend in polarization among American voters by education.”

Claudine Gay’s resignation at Harvard will make no difference without a fundamental restructuring of what is taught. The same goes for other institutions of “higher learning.”

I’m Cal Thomas.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Tomorrow: China. Its former one-child policy now has it begging women to have more babies. We’ll talk about it with John Stonestreet on Culture Friday. And, the state of movie-making in the wake of last year’s strikes in Hollywood.

That and more tomorrow.

I’m Mary Reichard.

MYRNA BROWN, HOST: And I’m Myrna Brown.

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