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President Trump’s new strategy for Ukraine, Ukrainian refugees adapting to Poland, and a pet’s place in American life. Plus, Joe Rigney on responding to criticism, a kayaker confused for krill, and the Tuesday morning news


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning!

President Trump goes directly to Russian President Putin to seek a peace deal in Ukraine. What’s the strategy?

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also today: displaced Ukranians consider what’s next.

YULIAI want to come back but my daughter … almost didn't remember our life in Ukraine.

And later, judging by spending, American pet owners really do care for their animals.

But is too much of a good thing a bad thing?

EMGE: No matter how bad your day is, you come home and your pet’s there waiting for you.

And staying focused—even when misunderstood. Commentary from WORLD Opinions’ Joe Rigney.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, February 18th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

REICHARD: Up next, Kent Covington with today’s news.


KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Ukraine talks update » Secretary of State Marco Rubio and other top U.S. officials are in Saudi Arabia this morning, where they plan to meet face to face with Russian officials, opening high stakes negotiations about ending the war in Ukraine.

That comes after President Trump had this to say about his recent phone call with Vladimir Putin.

TRUMP:  I think he wants to stop. That was my question to him. Because if he's going to go on, that would have been a big problem for us. And that would have caused me a big problem. Because you just can't let that happen.

The Kremlin says the talks will focus not only on the war, but also on improving relations between the U.S. and Russia.

It is the most significant meeting between the sides since Moscow’s full-scale invasion of its neighbor nearly three years ago.

Ukraine talks update » Ukraine will not be at the table for these initial talks. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy confirmed that on Monday.

ZELENSKYY: [Speaking Ukrainian]

He said the U.S. has every right to hold bilateral talks with Russia. But he added that Kyiv would reject any deal, if one were struck without Ukraine’s involvement.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said Monday:

RUTTE:  It is my absolute understanding that Ukraine will be an integral part of those talks, which is only logical, because this is about Ukraine.

The Trump administration has said that both Ukraine and NATO leaders will be a part of negotiations to end the war.

Weekend storms »  Floodwaters and falling trees killed at least 13 people through the weekend and into Monday across several states, including 11 deaths in Kentucky. Gov. Andy Beshear:

BESHEAR:  We are still in the search and rescue phase of this emergency. We are still, we still have multiple different missions that are underway. There are still people that are in harm's way.

A storm dropped 8 inches of rain in parts of the state, and knocked out power to more than 120-thousand homes.

And in Tennessee, emergency crews carried out more than 1000 high water rescues amid historic flooding.

Severe winter weather » And many states are now bracing for — or are already enduring — what authorities have described as life-threatening cold. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott:

ABBOTT:  There will be widespread freezing across almost the entire state of Texas. … And even temperatures down to near zero degrees with wind chill factors being below zero degrees.

Bitter cold is blasting the nation’s midsection as a polar vortex grips the Rockies and northern Plains. Forecasters warned that blizzard-like conditions could develop by Wednesday through Friday.

Legal battle over fired special counsel » The Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court to wade into a legal fight over a fired government watchdog. WORLD’s Kristen Flavin has more.

KRISTEN FLAVIN:  The Trump administration recently fired Hampton Dellinger … as head of the Office of Special Counsel of Federal Investigative Agency. That agency is tasked with investigating any alleged unfair treatment of government employees.

The administration gave no reason for his termination, but Dellinger was a Biden nominee, confirmed by a majority-Democrat Senate last year … for a five-year term.

Dellinger sued, saying his firing without a stated cause … was against the law.

The Justice Department says President Trump has the power to manage the executive branch.

The Office of Special Counsel is different than the attorneys that were named to lead investigations of President Trump and former President Biden.

For WORLD, I’m Kristen Flavin.

DOGE debate, court challenge » A federal judge is expected to rule today on whether to block the Department of Government Efficiency from accessing federal data to make spending cuts at government agencies. Fourteen Democratic-led states have sued.

But in a rare holiday hearing on Monday, the Obama appointed Judge Tanya Chutkan but did express skepticism about the argument that DOGE poses imminent harm.

DOGE has sparked a legal and political battle in Washington. GOP Congressman Mike Haridopolos:

HARIDOPOLIS: I  really applaud the president for creating the DOGE and using a mastermind like Elon Musk who understands computers and technology to root out this corruption.

But Democrats charge that DOGE itself is corrupt and illegal.

Delta crash landing » A terrifying incident at Toronto’s Pearson Airport on Monday. A Delta Airlines plane flipped upside down after landing, injuring 17 people.

Sound from air traffic control captured the scene:

AUDIO: Yeah, we’ve got—the aircraft [SIC] upside down and burning.

Fire crews quickly extinguished the flames.

All 80 passengers and crew are accounted for, and as of last night, there were no deaths reported in the incident.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: recent talks between the US and Russia have intensified interest in finding a way to end the war in Ukraine. Plus, caring for God’s creation as pet owners.

This is The World and Everything in It.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Tuesday the 18th of February.

This is WORLD Radio. Thank you for listening! Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

First up on The World and Everything in It…talking peace for Russia and Ukraine.

With a new White House administration come new priorities … and U.S. policy on Ukraine is no exception. Here is President Trump in Florida over the weekend.

TRUMP: We're trying to get a peace with Russia, Ukraine, and we're working very hard on it. It's a war that should have never started.

Last week, Trump spoke with Russian President Vladimir Putin about making a peace deal with Ukraine. Meanwhile, Vice President J.D. Vance was in Germany and there met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

REICHARD: Joining us now to talk about where things stand is Eric Patterson. He’s a foreign policy expert who spent time in the U.S. State Department. Patterson is author of the book Ending Wars Well and he’s an occasional contributor for WORLD Opinions

He joins us this morning from London.

Eric, good morning.

ERIC PATTERSON: It's a pleasure to be with you. Thanks for having me.

REICHARD: So glad you’re here. Well, let’s start by talking about the differences between the new Trump administration and the administration under President Biden. What changes are President Trump bringing to dealing with Ukraine?

PATTERSON: Certainly there's a tremendous amount of energy in Washington directed by President Trump. There was a sense under the Biden administration that it was a sort of caretaker situation, that President Biden did not have a lot of leverage with our allies in NATO. For instance, the almost a dozen who still, after 10 years, don't spend up to their commitments under the NATO charter to spend 2 % of GDP on national defense. Right now, there's a galvanizing sense in Europe that something must be done and that Donald Trump is not someone that they can control, but that he'll grab the reins to make a deal.

REICHARD: Last week, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said that US support for Ukraine joining NATO was not as strong as it was in the past. He later walked back those comments. Why is this issue so important?

PATTERSON: You know, there's a division of opinion about NATO membership for Ukraine. It goes back to the early 2000s or the late 1990s. There are some who say that Ukraine joining NATO and being right on Russia's border is provocative to the Russians. Of course, there are other countries, former Soviet republics like the Baltics, that are members of NATO. Poland's member of NATO, Romania's a member of NATO, et cetera. And so it isn't necessarily the case, but there are those who believe that Putin and Russia just cannot abide that. There are others, however, including President Zelensky and many supporters of Ukraine, who believe that Ukraine must have a NATO guarantee that is the only thing that will keep Russia from invading again.

REICHARD: You know a lot of Americans are frustrated with US involvement in these overseas conflicts that can go on for years and years. Is this a conflict the United States can walk away from? What happens if we do?

PATTERSON: Well, I don't think that we can, nor do I think that we should. I think that this is a situation where Ukraine cannot be seen as just one country. It's right next to NATO, but it's not just that. Russian aggression has attacked Georgia. It's attacked Moldova. The Russian little green men attacked Ukraine in 2014 and they took Crimea. Then they attacked again in 2022. This is a regime in Moscow that is belligerent. It seeks chaos, and then it can impose a new cold order in the region. All of that is against our national security interests and those of our allies.

REICHARD: Secretary of State Marco Rubio and others have said Ukraine is going to have to make some concessions to Russia to end the war. What about fears that concessions will only embolden Vladimir Putin to continue his quest for more territory in Europe?

PATTERSON: Well, think that diplomacy means that if Ukraine makes some concessions, that Ukraine likewise receives very vigorous security guarantees. And that means NATO or a NATO commitment to protecting it, even if it's not a fully fledged NATO member. Amazingly, we have seen some countries like the United Kingdom in the past 48 hours say they would send troops if necessary. And that's been a demand made by President Trump in recent days is will European countries send troops to defend Ukraine and that that may have to be part of the deal?

REICHARD: You wrote a book titled Ending Wars Well. So I want to ask you, from your perspective how can the U.S. help the war in Ukraine to end well?

PATTERSON: When you think about ending a war in a way that has an enduring security, you think about three elements. The first is order. The second is justice. And the third is conciliation. And we're not going to get anywhere near conciliation. We're probably not going to get any justice. So what does order look like? Order looks like first security within the country, law and order. And Ukraine largely has that if it didn't have Russians attacking. The second is no imminent threat on the border. And that's the crucial element here is what needs to happen to create a new security architecture that protects Ukraine and makes the region more safe. Finland does not feel safe. That's why it joined NATO after being neutral for so many years. Poland does not feel safe. Romania does not feel safe. So whatever the security arrangement is that ends the war and protects Ukraine and gives something probably to Russia. Nonetheless, this larger regional security architecture has to be reinforced lest Russia attack again.

REICHARD: Final question, Eric. Is there anything the American public doesn’t know but they should know about this conflict?

PATTERSON: I think there's two things. The first one is just how much meddling, cyberbullying, cyber warfare, and then outright attacks Russia has perpetrated in its neighborhood over the past 15 years in multiple countries. And when you have a bully that beats up on, you know, the six houses across the street, he is going to go after the seventh house.

And I think that the second thing to think about is that we actually have more leverage than many people think. We have leverage, for instance, in billions and billions of dollars of frozen Russian assets that they would like to get back. And that's one of those elements that could be a part of the deal or it could be something that is taken and used to rebuild parts of Ukraine.

REICHARD: Eric Patterson is a foreign policy expert who currently serves as the President and CEO of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in Washington, D.C. Eric, thank you.

PATTERSON: You're welcome, Mary. Thank you.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It:

Ukrainians consider what’s next.

Since the war started, nearly 7 million men, women, and children have left Ukraine, and nearly 1 million have sought refuge in nearby Poland. With conversations about ending the war in progress, what do these displaced Ukrainians have to say?

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Will Fleeson is a Correspondent for WORLD, reporting from Kyiv, Ukraine.

Will, good morning.

WILL FLEESON: Good morning, Mary.

REICHARD: Will, tell us a bit about what the mood over there is right now...coming off of security meetings in Munich and Paris. What are you hearing?

FLEESON: So what I'm hearing, Mary, is these events in Paris and Munich are notable for kind of what they did not accomplish and what they did not discuss. J.D. Vance was in Munich and spent more time talking about the far right parties of Europe than Ukraine itself. Likewise, in Paris, there was a hastily convened meeting under the direction of French president Emmanuel Macron, which has not accomplished much so far, the results seem to be inconclusive in terms of reporting on what we're seeing now. So many more questions than answers at this point.

REICHARD: So up next are talks in Saudi Arabia…between Russia and the U.S. How are Ukrainians you’ve spoken with feeling about that?

FLEESON: They're feeling similarly unclear about that. Mary, the US, Russia talks will be happening in Saudi Arabia a day after President Zelensky of Ukraine will get to Saudi Arabia himself. Those efforts on the one side between the US and Russia and Ukraine's efforts on the other are entirely separate at this point.

REICHARD: We look forward to hearing more from Ukraine in the coming weeks. Thanks Will!

FLEESON: Thank you Mary.

REICHARD: Will recently spoke with Ukrainians living in Poland about what might be next for them. WORLD's Executive Producer Paul Butler has the story.

SOUND: [KIDS CHATTERING]

PAUL BUTLER, PRODUCER: Classes are over for the day for children studying at the Polish Center for International Aid, or P-C-P-M in Polish. Students chatter in Russian and Ukrainian.

HOLOVA: Everybody said that Ukrainians are rather similar to Polish, but it's not really true.

Ana Holova teaches at the school. She’s relatively new. She started in September after fleeing the Zaporizhia region of Ukraine.

HOLOVA: New country, new language, new opportunities, and so it was not easy.

Poland and Ukraine share cultural similarities, but are still quite different.

At first, students of refugees could keep up with their schooling remotely. But last year, the Polish government passed a law requiring the Ukrainian children to attend in-person schools, eliminating online Ukrainian education. That is where education centers like PCPM come in, providing community and allowing families to continue educating their children in their mother tongue despite being far from home.

One of Holova’s colleagues is from Kherson. To protect family members still in Ukraine, WORLD is only using Yulia’s first name.

YULIA: Kherson was some kind like a gold cage because from our city we didn't have a way out.

Yulia’s family could not escape before Russians surrounded their city.

YULIA: They come to our city and told us that they “save us,” Ukrainian people.

The Russians said they were liberating Kherson from Ukrainian Nazis, but Yulia and her family didn’t believe them. With roads to the West blocked, they created a ruse to escape to the East.

YULIA: We told them that we move to the sea we go to the sea we want to spend some days because we never were in Georgia.

Georgia the country, south of Russia on the Black Sea. The Russians bought the story, so Yulia and her daughter headed south, into more occupied territory.

YULIA: And we move out through the Crimea, through the Russia, to Georgia, and then by the plane to Warsaw.

Yulia and her daughter have now lived in Warsaw for nearly three years.

YULIA: I really want to return home because my family there, my parents are still living in Kherson…

But leaving Poland might be harder than she expected.

YULIA: Several weeks ago my daughter told me that she didn't want to come home because I don't know why she told me that she almost didn't remember our life in Ukraine.

Yulia’s daughter was eight when she left Ukraine. Now she’s 11. Younger children may find it even harder to leave, as they learn to speak Polish and their families integrate into society. Programs like PCPM help preserve Ukrainian language and culture for refugees, but that doesn’t make things any easier for parents talking with their kids about returning home.

YULIA: She told me that her life is here. Her friends is here and she even can’t imagine how it can be there right now.

Kherson is no longer under Russian occupation, but it is in ruins.

YULIA: So it's impossible to come back to return there if the war stops today. No hospitals no schools I don't know my mom told me that two or three shops are work in Kherson and it's really difficult to live there.

Going back to Zaporizhia would also be challenging for Ana Holova.

HOLOVA: My region was occupied and it's still occupied now but my city is not occupied so So it gives me a hope that I will have a possibility to come back after this all ends, and I hope it will be soon.

In addition to uncertainty about the future of her city and country, Holova faces a more urgent question. Even as peace talks begin:

HOLOVA: Yeah, my husband is missing now for half a year, and I'm not sure if he's still alive….

Holova’s husband served in the Ukrainian military. In July, authorities told her he went missing in action. She’s had no news in more than 6 months.

HOLOVA: So I have to think about my children, my future, by myself and of course, it's a difficult decision. But I have no choice.

Holova hasn’t yet made plans to return, and like many other Ukrainians, she’s waiting to see what happens next before she does.

HOLOVA: I don't make plans longer than for a couple of days because only God knows what's next.

For WORLD, I’m Paul Butler.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Here's a whale of a tale. Adrián Simancas was out kayaking with his dad down in the Chilean Patagonia, when all the sudden a humpback whale shows up.

AUDIO: [In Spanish] “Sí, yo en un principio, cuando pensé que había muerto, fue como, claro, mucho terror.”

He’s saying I thought I’d died it was like, of course, a lot of terror.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: I'll say!

The whale scooped him up. Simancas probably thought he was Jonah 2.0.

But seconds later, and what must’ve felt like hours, the whale spat him out. Turns out hard-plastic kayaks aren’t on the menu.

Good thing his dad was there to capture the moment, and otherwise keep his cool. Everybody’s safe now, though Simancas says he’s probably swearing off seafood for awhile. No word from the whale, but he’s probably thinking RFK Junior has it right: something’s up with the food supply.

It’s The World and Everything in It.


MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Tuesday, February 18th.

Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day.

Good morning. I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: Americans and our love of pets.

An estimated 2 of 3 of households in this country own at least one pet and we lavish money on them. In fact, last year, Americans spent around $150 billion on our animal friends. That includes everything from food to vet bills to grooming services.

REICHARD: But our national fertility rate is dropping to record lows, yet it’s getting more common to see Mother’s and Father's Day products in stores for so-called pet parents.

So, how far is too far? WORLD senior writer Emma Freire paid a visit to the World of Pets Expo.

SOUND: [Dogs barking]

EMMA FREIRE: Tens of thousands of pet lovers and their animal companions descended on the Maryland State Fairgrounds on the last weekend of January. The World of Pets Expo bills itself as the largest consumer pet show on the east coast. There’s plenty of strollers being pushed around, but they’re more likely to contain a dog or a cat than a human baby.

As you enter, you see a long swimming pool set up for the DockDogs competition. Dogs jump off a podium into the water to fetch toys. And the bleachers are full of cheering fans.

SOUND: [Dockdogs competition]

Jean Emge has been organizing World of Pets for 24 years. Dockdogs is one of her favorite events

EMGE: Takes a lot of encouragement to teach them to do that.

But the expo offers so much more. There’s seminars on pet care, a dog grooming competition, pony rides, a petting zoo. About 200 exhibitors sell everything from dog treats to eco-friendly towels to clean up your pet’s mess.

To the right of the main entrance is an area where no dogs are allowed. It’s a cat show, and 135 cats are registered to participate.

ANNOUNCER: Short hair kittens, 51 through 60, ring five as available.

Then, there’s a stand featuring very different animals.

GRAVES: We have 5 ball pythons here today. We have a rat snake, a handful of geckos and a couple bearded dragons.

That’s Tyler Graves. He’s manning the stand for Second Hand Serpent Reptile Rescue.

GRAVES: All reptiles have personalities, just like cats and dogs. It's just you're inviting somebody else into your house that you want to share time with. And quite often, reptiles are very chill and relaxed.

Many of the vendors and participants know each other. Shelly McAllister is selling pet beds, blankets, strollers and toys. Strollers are going for $125. She says people here understand each other.

MCALLISTER: You meet other people that have similar interests, so you don't feel like a fool. Like at one point when I was working with the one rescue I worked with, I had 12 ferrets, because I had a lot of fosters. I might feel weird telling you I had 12, but there 12 was, like, at the low end. There were people that had 20 ferrets.

But do we love our pets too much?

Ephraim Radner is a professor emeritus of historical theology at Wycliffe College at the University of Toronto. He points out that animals were created first and God gave humans the mandate to care for them.

RADNER: The laws about—especially in the Old Testament—about how human beings, how Israelites, are asked to treat animals, involve justice, if you will, and kindness and compassion being extended to animals.

The Bible also makes it clear we can learn something about God from animals.

RADNER: Solomon, you know, in the Proverbs, said go to the ant. Look at the ant, how the ant lives. We have something to learn from other animals, not just human beings. And of course, in the Psalms, animals, along with trees and mountains and seas, praise God. They actually have, in their own language, a way of praising God.

But when people treat their animals like children, they’ve lost sight of God’s created order.

RADNER: We live in a very confused culture, and I don't think it's fair to blame people for this because they're raised in a culture that has shifted enormously. But I do think it's important to be aware of this, and therefore to find ways to sort of relearn this ordered character to the created world.

Attendees of the World of Pets Expo do know it can go too far.

Candy Cole owns High Ridge Farm in Maryland. She brought a few of her goats, sheep and miniature horses here. And she thinks humans can have a hard time knowing when it’s time to let go.

COLE: We are very selfish when it comes to the end of life or cancer or something with our pets. We had a horse and I had a dog that had cancer, and they offered me chemo. And I said I would never do that to an animal, because they don't understand why you're doing that to them.

Expo organizer Jean Emge agrees.

EMGE: I don't know if you can love your pet too much as a pet lover, but some people might prioritize them a little too much.

But as long as you keep your priorities straight, animals can bring a lot of happiness.


NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Tuesday, February 18th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard. Coming up next: following the Apostle’s example.

WORLD Opinions’ commentator Joe Rigney says we’re living in a time that might be called “the Great Unraveling.” Society’s center isn’t holding. Civilization is fragmenting, and various groups and ideologies are vying for influence and power—many accusing Christians of being nationalistic, theocratic, or insurrectionist.

How to respond?

JOE RIGNEY: In times like these, conscientious Christians frequently worry that our message—the gospel of Jesus Christ—will be confused and conflated with competing ideologies and programs. In the face of such confusion, how should sincere Christians speak and act? How should we approach the unavoidable confusion of the present time, with enemies and opportunists all around?

We can start by considering the way the apostles approached this problem in the first century. They too lived in the midst of a great unraveling. The mid first-century A.D. was a time of turmoil and unrest throughout the Roman Empire. The air was full of religious competition and political agitation, including even insurrection and rebellion. The New Testament is filled with evidence of political maneuvering and religious opportunism. Christ himself was crucified by an alliance of opportunistic religious leaders manipulating Pilate into ordering his execution with subtle political threats.

So then how did the apostles in the book of Acts navigate the confusion around the fledgling church and its message? Consider the confusion they faced.

Among the Jews, the apostles were thought to be the followers of a failed insurrectionist. Gamaliel’s counsel in Acts chapter 5 assumed that Jesus was a rebel against Rome—like Theudas and Judas the Galilean. He believed that the best course of action was to allow Christ’s followers to come to nothing after the death of their leader.

When the church continued to grow and expand, the Jewish leaders resorted to slander and false accusation tailored to different audiences. To hinder the apostle’s efforts among other Jews, they accused them of blasphemy against Moses and God, of hatred of the temple, and contempt of Jewish customs.

Before Gentile audiences, these leaders sought to run the same play on Paul that they ran on Christ: gather a mob, start a riot, and accuse the apostles of sedition and rebellion before the city authorities. In doing so, they twist a truth—that Christ is Lord—into a falsehood that Christians are revolutionary insurrectionists who completely disregard the decrees of Rome.

The Gentiles themselves were no less confused. The message of Jesus and the resurrection was heard as an encouragement to add two more deities to the Roman pantheon. After healing a cripple, Paul and Barnabas were mistaken for Hermes and Zeus and the Apostles were barely able to interrupt the attempted acts of worship. And, as if to illustrate the confusion of the times, immediately after, they were stoned by the same crowd…stirred up by Jewish leaders from Antioch and Iconium.

So how did Paul and the other apostles respond to these cases of mistaken identity? First, they refused to be distracted by it. They clarified their identity without being derailed and hijacked by false accusations.

More than that, the apostles took every opportunity afforded them to deliver their message and advance the kingdom of God. They regarded the confusion of the day as a stepping stone to witness. They refused to be steered by their enemies. False accusations about their attitude to Moses and the law did not keep them from preaching that Gentiles are free from the demands of Torah. Slander about their supposed revolutionary agenda did not keep them from preaching the Lordship of Christ over all men.

We should take a page from the apostolic playbook. Enemies and opportunists abound. But instead of spending all of our time differentiating ourselves from others, we ought to entrust our reputations to God. Our task is to be faithful, whether we are falsely praised or falsely accused. So keep calm and carry on. Christ is Lord.

I’m Joe Rigney


NICK EICHER, HOST: Tomorrow: Washington Wednesday, House Republicans have cleared step one of installing the Trump agenda: getting a budget off the ground. We’ll hear more about what’s left to be done. And, how a retired OB/Gyn who once performed abortions came around to become advocate for life. That and more tomorrow.

I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

WORLD Radio’s Washington Producer Harrison Watters wrote today’s Ukrainian refugee story. 

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