The World and Everything in It: August 15, 2023

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MARY REICHARD, HOST: Good morning! New York City proclaimed itself a sanctuary city, open to immigrants and refugees. But now the mayor is having second thoughts.

AUDIO: We are facing an unprecedented state of emergency.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Also ChatGPT means more opportunities to learn. But what about academic integrity?

Plus, life in the wilds of Canada, a vast expanse exceeded only by the Russian wilderness.

AUDIO: Certainly the city folk, they-they're freaked out. I mean, let's be honest, when they first get here. Like ‘how far away is civilization? They don't realize this is how people lived for millennia.

And WORLD commentator Calvin Robinson on his walk matching his talk.

REICHARD: It’s Tuesday, August 15th. This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

EICHER: And I’m Nick Eicher. Good morning!

REICHARD: It’s time for the news. Here’s Kent Covington.

KENT COVINGTON, NEWS ANCHOR: Trump indicted » Donald Trump and 18 allies were indicted in Georgia on Monday over their alleged efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss in the state.

Fulton County prosecutor Fani Willis used a statute normally associated with mobsters to accuse the former president and others.

WILLIS: The defendants engaged in a criminal racketeering enterprise to overturn Georgia’s presidential election result.

The nearly 100-page indictment accuses Trump or his allies of taking numerous actions to try and overturn the results. It also pointed to this phone call between then-President Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

TRUMP: I just want to find 11,789 votes, which is one more than we have.

Two recounts in Georgia did not find the widespread voter fraud Trump believed had occurred in the state.

Other defendants in this case include former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani.

Willis said it’s her wish to not see this case drag out.

WILLIS: We do want to move this case along, and so, we will be asking for a proposed order that occurs — a trial date within the next six months.

She said the defendants would be allowed to voluntarily surrender by noon Aug. 25.

Unlike federal charges, there would be no chance of a pardon by the sitting president. And in the state of Georgia, the governor has very limited powers to pardon someone convicted of of state crimes

Trump maintains the Fulton Co. case is politically motivated.

Hawaii » Many families in Hawaii continue to cling to hope that missing loved ones will turn up alive and well.

As of last night, more than a thousand people remained missing following a wildfire that incinerated parts of Maui.

One Maui resident said she’s grateful to have escaped alive.

RESIDENT: My son was like, "mom, is this it?" I mean, what do you tell your kids?

As cellphone towers have slowly come back online, the number of people missing dropped from 2,000 to about 1,300 last night.

Gov. Josh Green explained that the fire spread at a rate of more than 60 miles per hour.

GREEN: That meant that fire traveled at one mile every minute. With those kind of winds at 1,000 degree temperatures, ultimately, all the pictures you will see will be easy to understand.

Roughly a hundred people were confirmed dead. But Green says he fears the death toll will rise sharply as recovery teams comb through the ashes.

Pennsylvania teen terrorism arrest » FBI officials say they’ve arrested a Philadelphia teenager who they say was collecting deadly weapons, and planned to join a terror group with ties to al-Quaida.

Special Agent Jacqueline Maguire:

MAGUIRE: He had access to firearms and had purchased items and materials commonly used in the construction of improvised explosive devices.

She said the 17-year-old was sending and receiving terrorist propaganda as well as guidance on how to build a bomb.

Mississippi officers » Six former Mississippi law enforcement officers have pleaded guilty to state charges that they assaulted two black men earlier this year. WORLD’s Lauren Canterberry has more.

LAUREN CANTERBERRY: Five former sheriff’s deputies and one off-duty police officer raided a home in January without a warrant where they abused Michael Corey Jenkins and Eddie Terrell Parker for nearly two hours.

One officer shot Jenkins in the mouth. The men filed a federal civil rights lawsuit in June seeking $400 million dollars in damages.

All six men pleaded guilty earlier this month to federal charges in the incident. They face five to 30 years behind bars on the state charges.

They’ll be sentenced in November for the federal charges.

For WORLD, I’m Lauren Canterberry.

Kansas newspaper raid » More than 30 major newspapers across the country have signed a letter condemning a police raid of a small town newspaper in Kansas.

The letter accuses police of unconstitutionally violating freedom of the press.

Marion Police offiicers marched into the offices of the Marion County Register over the weekend and confiscated computers and cellphones.

The paper’s editor and co-owner, Eric Meyer:

Meyer: This is the type of stuff that you know Vladimir Putin does that third-world dictators do this is Gestapo tactics from World War II.

Police obtained a warrant to search the offices and the homes of the paper’s co-owners after receiving an invasion of privacy complaint.

The claimant accused the newspaper of obtaining private arrest records.

Chinese def minister visiting Russia » The Chinese defense minister is visiting Moscow this week in a show of support, highlighting Beijing’s military ties with Russia. WORLD’s Josh Schumacher has more.

JOSH SCHUMACHER: Defense Minister Li Shangfu will speak at the Moscow Conference for International Security.

Russia has reportedly invited more than 100 countries to attend, with the goal of uniting nations that the United States and its allies are working to isolate.

China and Russia want to build a coalition to rival Western powers and shake up the global balance of power.

Li’s latest visit follows a series of recent joint military drills including a fleet of Chinese and Russian vessels that sailed close to U.S. waters near Alaska last week.

For WORLD, I’m Josh Schumacher.

Niger » In Niger, the leaders of the military coup that ousted President Mohamed Bazoumn now say they plan to prosecute him for high treason.

They claim to have evidence that Bazoum undermined the security of Niger.

A group of West Aftican nations has demanded the junta restore the president to power and have threatened possible military action. But leaders of the group say they’re still working to bring a peaceful end to the coup.

I'm Kent Covington.

Straight ahead: New York City’s housing problem gets worse. Plus, a trip to the Canadian wilderness.

This is The World and Everything in It.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: It’s Tuesday the 15th of August, 2023.

Thanks for listening to WORLD Radio! Good morning, I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher.

First up on The World and Everything in It: The immigration crisis in New York.

Last Wednesday, New York City Mayor Eric Adams addressed what has become a humanitarian crisis: City shelters full of immigrants have hit capacity.

AUDIO: For centuries, immigrants have made that remarkable journey. And the asylum seekers who have arrived in our city since last spring are writing a new chapter in this timeless story. But as I declared nearly a year ago, we are facing an unprecedented state of emergency.

REICHARD: For some New Yorkers, Adams’s call for help seems hypocritical. They remember what he said in the past about the Big Apple’s status as a sanctuary city. WORLD intern Alex Carmenaty got out into the streets and listened to what New Yorkers are saying.

MILLMAN: Uh, in the beginning, he was very welcoming to the migrants. But now, I think he's overwhelmed by how just how many have showed up?

PACE: And now he's saying, No, you have to stay either on the streets, or we're gonna put you here, we're gonna put you there. We're gonna have to put you in people's homes, or whatever that may be.

EGAN: Adams, naive, or maybe a little hypocritical, maybe a little of both. And I chalk some of that off to the fact that he's a politician. And they play both sides of the fence quite often.

EICHER: Right now, Adams is contending with nearly 100,000 asylum seekers who crossed the fence down at the Southern border and are looking for a better life.

And that’s just a fraction of the nearly 3 million border crossings in 2022. WORLD reporter Addie Offereins says that while border towns in Texas have born the brunt of the immigration crisis, New York is to them a plum destination.

ADDIE OFFEREINS: I think what's different here is that for New York City, this is the final destination kind of the longed for, hoped for American destination for a lot of these people And so they've traveled farther finally here, and they want to build a life in New York.

Many of those who wanted to do that didn’t have the money to do that. So, Texas Governor Greg Abbott chartered the first bus from the U.S.-Mexico border to Manhattan last summer. Tens of thousands more immigrants have since streamed into the city in droves.

When Adams protested, Abbott pointed out that the mayor had basically asked for it.

ABBOTT: I removed them to locations that self identified as sanctuary cities that have the capability and the desire to help out these migrants. So, that’s exactly what’s taken place.

REICHARD: Now, homeless immigrants make up over half of the people in New York City’s strained shelter system. Adams says the federal government has a responsibility to help New York manage the consequences of a crisis Congress is unwilling to address.

ADAMS: That means over the course of three fiscal years, our city is projected to have spent more than $12 billion. This is the budgetary reality we are facing if we don't get the additional support we need from the federal and state governments.

But insufficient funding isn’t the most serious problem on Mayor Adams’ hands. He is also asking a judge to modify the Right to Shelter mandate that requires the city to provide a bed for everyone who wants one.

EICHER: Nicole Gelinas is a senior fellow with the Manhattan Institute. She says the shelter mandate plays a key role in incentivizing the trip north.

GELINAS: The issue with the right to shelter right now is does it apply to a crisis that was never contemplated when the right to shelter was created.

Back in 1982, advocates for the homeless sued the city on behalf of a few thousand homeless men unable to rent an apartment because of a physical or mental disability. The court expanded the order to women and children a few years later.

Now the city rents thousands of apartments for homeless families every night.

GELINAS: Here we have something never contemplated at the time, thousands of people arriving in New York City every single week and showing up in being eligible for the right to shelter. And it's something that just cannot work on this scale and it’s not a financial issue. The mayor Eric Adams keeps asking for federal money. It’s more of an issue of running out of physical locations to house people.

REICHARD: And the migrants filling up shelters and hotels are going nowhere soon. Those who apply for asylum have to wait six months before they can start working and earn the money necessary to move into permanent housing. But many migrants don’t understand how to apply for asylum, and so the clock hasn’t even begun for them to start building a permanent life in New York.

And so leaders like Mayor Adams are left with a dilemma. Addie Offereins explains.

OFFEREINS: It's kind of this tricky balance of we want to make sure people are cared for compassionately, but then at the same time, is it compassionate to keep incentivizing people to come with promises of a good life and promises of shelter when the reality on the ground in New York City is sky high rents, work restrictions and a life that's a lot harder to build than maybe is advertised or thought of by these immigrants before they actually get there.

Addie Offereins is WORLD’s compassion reporter.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Coming up next on The World and Everything in It: Artificial intelligence and academic integrity.

There’s nothing new under the sun, including cheating in school and getting caught. But then last fall came a new technology that made it so much harder to catch cheaters.

ChatGPT is an AI program capable of creating compositions that seem human. It didn’t take long for students to start using it for homework and tests.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And now those seeking professional degrees have the same temptation. Back in March, OpenAI unveiled ChatGPT4, a version powerful enough to pass the bar exam and finish in the top 10 percent.

Sam Altman is OpenAI’s CEO. The audio from ABC News.

SAM ALTMAN: Education is going to have to change. But it's happened many other times with technology when we got the calculator, the way we taught math and what we tested students on that totally changed. The promise of this technology, one of the ones that I'm most excited about is the ability to provide individual learning

But what about academic integrity?

Joining us now to talk about that is Rob McDole. He’s an online education designer who currently leads the Center of Teaching and Learning at Cedarville University.

REICHARD: Rob, good morning.

ROB MCDOLE, GUEST: Good morning.

REICHARD: What were some previous challenges with maintaining academic integrity, and how does ChatGPT change things. What have you seen?

MCDOLE: Well, what I've seen in the past is students using websites to gain answers to quizzes or tests. And in some cases, they would actually use third party companies to write those papers for them. Now, it's become a little bit more advanced, students are not even using those companies anymore. They're using ChatGPT to write their papers, to get answers to quizzes and tests. And so that's upped the game. But it's become an educational Cold War, so to speak, between those who want to cheat, and those who are trying to capture it. So tools are coming out every day to detect these things. What we need to look at going forward is, Why are students cheating? And what do we need to be teaching them? And what discussions do we need to have in order to really move ourselves away from this issue of this Cold War, this war of I think, attrition where education just focuses on cheating so much, we're not really focused on the real goal, and that is transformed lives.

REICHARD: As you heard in that clip from OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, the inventors of this technology are optimistic about how it might provide individual learning to students. Do you agree with their assessment? (And why?)

MCDOLE: Yeah, yes, I do. You can provide a dataset of writing transcripts and notes from a teacher or a subject area. And you can create a chatbot for interaction so that if you're, you know, you have a student at 10:30pm who's studying for an exam, and they have some questions, they can ask the chat bot instead of having to fire off an email to the professor. And they can get instant feedback. One of the biggest issues and one of the things we know in education is that learning occurs when the moment of learning and testing and feedback are closely associated. So if a student has a question about a certain area or topic, and they they test themselves with, they're like, this is my idea, and they don't really get any feedback, whether that's on an assignment or quiz, the closer that feedback is to their question or their performance, it really makes a difference in their learning. So the same is true here. I think, AI that's just one way AI can really benefit individualized learning.

REICHARD: Given what you know, how would you advise colleges to deal with these AI tools?

MCDOLE: Well, I know that a lot of colleges may be thinking about just banning it wholesale. Don't think that's the way to go. Also, some may be thinking, well, we'll just open the doors and let it come in wholesale. Again, I don't think that's the way to go. I would advise them to one, understand what it is that they're dealing with. So if, you know, if you have administrators, you have leaders, even faculty who haven't used it, they need to use it, they need to test it out. And then they need to create sensible, well thought out and reasoned policies for their particular courses. But I wouldn't say no to Chat GPT, because I think it’s again, just an exercise in futility.

REICHARD: How does all this change your approach to teaching? If students know these tools exist, what kinds of academic virtues are you trying to cultivate to counter the seductive promises that AI has?

MCDOLE: That's a good question. Christian colleges and universities, especially have an opportunity to really go back to the basics and talk about a biblical worldview, and why we as believers learn in the first place, and why it's important for us to be stewards, and learners in God's general revelation. 

REICHARD: Is the mainstream media missing any aspect of this story?

MCDOLE: We don't hear a lot about all the good things that it's doing. We hear a lot of the negatives, right. I am reminded of Halicin, I don't know if you're familiar with that drug or if you've even heard of it. But it was developed from an MIT experiment with AI, and it's a super antibiotic, and it kills all the superbugs. And it doesn't harm humans. And this was discovered purely by chance, or under God's sovereignty, as I'd like to say, through AI. And in a way that researchers heretofor weren't even looking. They didn't even have any research or literature pointing in the direction that this AI bot took to come up with this drug. But they verified it. And now they're in the stages of finding funding to bring it to market. So people don't need to die if they get some bad case of MRSA, or some other superbugs that our antibiotics can't deal with. 

REICHARD: Rob McDole the Director for the Center of Teaching and Learning at Cedarville University. Thank you for joining us!

MCDOLE: Oh, it's been a pleasure.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Teachers in the town of Inverclyde, Scotland are seeing double. 17 sets of twins are about to start primary school.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Twins galore!

EICHER: Yes it is. But believe it or not, that’s not even the school district record. That was set eight years ago when 19 sets of twins started primary school.

AUDIO: Smile! Cheeese!

Yep, saying cheese for the class photoshoot in their uniforms. Reporters from all over the U.K. showed up to see the twins phenomenon for themselves.

And it’s quite a phenomenon. There in Inverclyde, the rate of multiple births is about 50 percent higher than the rest of Scotland.

This year’s twin class increases the count to a total in the past decade of 147 sets of twins—earning Inverclyde the nickname: Twin-verclyde.

It’s The World and Everything in It.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Today is Tuesday, August 15th. Thank you for turning to WORLD Radio to help start your day. 

Good morning. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

Coming next on The World and Everything in It: knowing the land. Canada has over a million square miles of wilderness. Only Russia has more.

In the Canadian province of Manitoba, dense forests go hundreds of miles in all directions. Parts of it are so remote, they’re almost completely uninhabited.

EICHER: But in some areas, hunting and fishing guides are reintroducing people to life in the wild. WORLD reporter Mary Muncy went out into the woods and came back to tell about it.

MARY MUNCY, REPORTER: James and Heather Bradley are sitting in a fishing boat in the Canadian wilderness. The bite is good, and Heather just learned how to unhook her own fish this week. But she still refuses to touch the minnows.

JAMES BRADLEY: Oh you need a minnow

HEATHER BRADLEY: That’s what I always need when I’m sitting here waiting.

JAMES: Waitin' on a minnow.

James is a fishing guide working at Dogskin Lake Lodge for the summer. Heather is visiting him for a week after about two months apart.

Usually, James spends almost all day on the water with clients, either helping them fish, or fishing himself.

It takes a lot of patience and customer service. And, of course, learning not to catch bigger fish than the guests.

The lodge is mostly about fishing. But for some people, their time here introduces them to nature in a way they haven’t experienced before.

JAMES: It's like, all about making sure that we take care of the resources, and making sure that like, people understand the beauty that like God has put into the lake and everything like, like it's so beautiful here, it's so peaceful, and it's just so tranquil.

The only way to get to the lodge is on a float plane. There are no roads, no trains, and no people for hundreds of miles in every direction. The lodge is one of only four lodges in the Atikaki Provincial Wilderness Park in Manitoba. The park was declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 2018.

SHAD TORGERSON: It's meant to be a protected wilderness for future generations to enjoy.

That’s Shad Torgerson, part owner of Dogskin.

TORGERSON: So nobody can build any additional buildings in the park. No roads will ever go in the park.

Shad and his brother-turned-business-partner, Jamie, bought the lodge in 2003. Now, it’s their full-time job.

The brothers and their families live in Wisconsin most of the year planning for fishing and hunting seasons, but they spend their summers and part of the fall in Canada.

GRACE TORGERSON: [Laughing]

Grace Torgerson is Shad’s niece. She grew up spending her summers at the lodge. Now, she’s back for a summer after college and before missions school.

GRACE: There's something satisfying about going out with people and being able to lead them and guide them around like people that have never been here.

She’s been getting to know this land her whole life. Figuring out where the fish go when there’s a cold snap, what berries are safe to eat.

GRACE: It's just like knowing like, knowing where the rocks are, when you're when you're on a boat. You know, we figured that out the hard way.

Nature isn’t always easy to appreciate.

The Torgersons watch guests go in and out all summer. Some of the guests are seasoned fishermen and hunters and are used to the wilderness…Others, not so much.

TORGERSON: Certainly the city folk, they-they're freaked out. I mean, let's be honest, when they first get here. Like ‘how far away is civilization? Are the bears are gonna eat me? Wolves and all this stuff?’ They live in the city. They feel naked and exposed here, it's like they could die at any moment. They don't realize this is how people lived for millennia.

For the most part, it’s pretty safe. Animals tend to stay away and there are rarely accidents. But that’s not to say nature doesn’t test their resolve.

The nearest hospital is hours away, and if anything breaks it could be days before a repairman reaches them.

Shad says they all wear multiple hats.

TORGERSON: I’m the only one who’s carried buckets of poo out of outhouses out of any of you. 

They’re also miles away from any first responders, like during a recent fire. James saw it from the cabin window.

JAMES: So we like book it into like the like Lodge and people are like the workers who are here sitting down like I'm in their coffee. I'm like, Guys cabin fives on fire.

The chef grabbed the fire extinguisher thinking they were exaggerating. But when they looked out the door, one of the cabins was completely up in flames.

JAMES: We literally just like grabbed buckets from the lake. And we're just like, like the cabin was gone. So you just had to keep up perimeter like clear and just tossing water on all the plants and making sure it wasn't spreading to all the other cabins.

There wasn’t anyone in the cabin at the time and nothing else caught on fire. But now they have to rebuild it practically from scratch.

JAMES: I was like, I didn't know I signed up to be a firefighter.

For the rest of the season, James was back to being a fishing guide.

He has just a few more weeks before he goes home to his wife. They’ve been married just over a year and the time away was tough. But he says his time on the lake gave him more than just fishing stories.

JAMES: As you fish more, you appreciate more-more of the fish’s beauty. Like, especially when you catch a big one like that, like a big fish has been alive for like longer than I have.

Shad Torgerson says if people are open to it, the lodge can change them, but not everyone will let it.

TORGERSON: And some people just still can't get out of their busy mindset. You know, where it's just no no no, just go on next trophy, and then go on to the next thing.

But others relax into the rhythm of lodge life. They let go of the hustle and bustle of their normal lives and spend time connecting to their family and the land. Even if they don’t know it, they start to realize that there is nothing but God for miles and miles.

Grace Torgerson says the land is like a person, you can’t love it more than you know it.

GRACE: C.S. Lewis says, you can't love something if you don't know it. So you can't appreciate this place if you don't know it to certain capacity. So even if you only know it three days, you can love it three days worth.

Reporting for WORLD, I’m Mary Muncy in Manitoba, Canada.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: Today is Tuesday, August 15th. Good morning! This is The World and Everything in It from listener-supported WORLD Radio. I’m Mary Reichard.

NICK EICHER, HOST: And I’m Nick Eicher. Up next: go and sin no more.

A politician in England claims it’s hypocritical to be a Christian and also oppose same-sex marriage.

WORLD Opinions writer Calvin Robinson is a Christian minister in the Free Church of England, he opposes same-sex marriage, and he says he’s no hypocrite.

CALVIN ROBINSON, COMMENTATOR: Wes Streeting, the U.K. Labor Party’s top health official, said in the Telegraph, last week that Christians against gay marriage have a “pick and mix” approach to faith. He criticized those who argue homosexuality is sinful by saying they cannot choose which ten commandments they like or don’t like.

Well, Mr. Streeting makes a fair point in his poor attempt to disparage Christians.

Yes, Christians are called to obey all Ten Commandments. We cannot pick and choose which commandments we observe–to break one is to break them all. James 2:10 reads, “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.”

However, Mr. Streeting seems confused when he speaks of Christians opposed to gay marriage. The Bible’s teaching on issues of holy matrimony and sexuality are not found exclusively in the Ten Commandments. The Seventh Commandment is “thou shalt not commit adultery,” which means one should not cheat on one’s spouse or have intercourse with anyone else’s spouse. That would be a sin. But the Bible also teaches that fornication is a sin, which means that any sex outside of marriage is a sin. Additionally, the Bible teaches that sodomy is a sin, as are other homosexual activities.

It is important to be clear on this. Describing something as “sinful” isn’t a judgment from one man to another. It is God’s Word that explains which actions or thoughts separate us from our Creator. God is love, and God wants the best for us. He teaches us, as any father would, what is good and what is not good for us. He gave us His Word so that we might know how to follow His divine order. We may choose not to, and that is sinning.

Don’t get me wrong, some people are same-sex attracted, and there is something to be said for those who are and manage to follow the teachings of the Scriptures and live a chaste life. Singleness can be a good and holy thing for those who are not called to marriage.

But in a Christian context there is no such thing as gay marriage, and any sexual activity outside marriage is sinful. That is the Christian faith. There is nothing cherry-picked about it, and it is high time our politicians stopped attacking Christians for following the British national faith as we have for nearly 2,000 years. Would we see a shadow minister attacking Muslims, Sikhs, and Hindus in the same way they attack Christians? I highly doubt it, somehow. We have protection in law for our religious beliefs, whether they’re currently fashionable or not.

The Biblical message isn’t that some people are sinners, and we should judge them for it. The message is that we are all sinners, in different ways, and we must repent of our sins and have faith in Christ. That is how we are saved, not by affirming our sinful ways but by helping each other sin no more.

I’m Calvin Robinson.

NICK EICHER, HOST: Tomorrow: The special counsel to investigate Hunter Biden is the same guy who negotiated his plea deal.

And, a Christian college is offering free tuition. Why, and how does it work?

That and more tomorrow. I’m Nick Eicher.

MARY REICHARD, HOST: And I’m Mary Reichard.

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