Would that earlier deep blue no holds barred comedians (Richard Pryor, Sam Kinison, Andrew Dice Clay) had faced the hostility of the trans crowd. Let a man be known by the enemies he makes as the saying goes.
SAWGUNNER
That a comic like Chapelle (a very gifted and successful one) along with novelist J.K. Rowling are now both on the enemies list of the Trans Commissar Overlords is in itself quite laughable. He noted that to most cis-gender biological females, (henceforth and herein to be referred to as "real women") the trans women are a brutal mockery of genuine feminity. I'm not clear how a black male can speak accurately of the monolithic perception of "real women" but I do believe Dave is right. To real women the trans women seem to be a crude mockery and the real women view the trans type the same way real blacks view fakes in black face makeup (Ralph Northam, etc): cruel and insulting.
ECCL49
Thank you for the insight and warning you’ve expressed here. Those of us who love Jesus mustn’t allow public opinion to deter us from honoring and applying the Father’s good ways.
Meg I
This is excellent and as usual Trueman uses his critical thinking skills - all stemming from his base, the Word of God. He has become a sort of modern day prophet for many of us.
FIMIKI
It's interesting to me how much of wokeness is such a uniquely post-Christian phenomena. Pre-Christian cultures have no compunction about exercising power and abusing it - might makes right! But after centuries of Christian influence in the West there is now a deep-seated recognition that the weak, the oppressed, and the marginalized should receive special care and attention and that the proud and mighty ought to be brought low. But without the saving grace of God and the transformation he works within us, the man-based solutions being offered up only exacerbate and perpetuate the sinful abuse of power.
That's why I think it's critical that we recognize the heart behind much of cancel culture - a longing and thirst for righteousness and justice - but direct the woke to where true hope is found, lifting up Christ as the example of truth and grace to which we should all aspire.
I have to agree. I would add that one reason why there is a thirst for righteousness and justice is that the church has often failed to promote those things. Whether or not it's viewed as "woke," we as Christians can acknowledge the very real injustices and wrongdoing in our world; and we can personally ask forgiveness for any wrongs we have done. We can also demonstrate grace, forgiveness, and redemption-which the world does not offer.
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account."
Is the "regular recitation of the liturgy of evangelical self-loathing on everything from race to sexuality" a poor strategy for dealing with cancel culture? Certainly from the world's perspective. How much more satisfying if all our leaders could stand up, brash and brave, like these secular comedians, and tell it like it is! Of course we need the prophetic voice to speak truth to power and proclaim God's law, but if we can't be open about our own faults and failures and say with honesty "there but for the grace of God go I" then we can quickly succumb to the self-righteousness of the Pharisees.
Agreed. Jesus told his followers to deal with the planks in their own eyes before trying to help others with the specks in their eyes. I would also like to point out that confession and repentance are very different from "self loathing." Self loathing brings pain and death and keeps a person focused on self; repentance brings joy and puts the focus on GOD and his grace.
As repentant sinners we come to Christ recognizing our utter spiritual poverty. We morn over our many sins. We meekly come to God recognizing our great need. We hunger and thirst fo righteousness. Seeing our own sin we are merciful to others leading them to Jesus Christ our savior. This is a good attitude and really the only attitude we should have in approaching God as new Christians and in our lifelong relationship with God.
This is remarkable different compared to the woke crowd who demands white people confess their white privilege which is a tool used to gain power and control society like Dr Trueman articulately presents. This self loathing doesn’t bring you to Christ but enslaves you in half-truths that entangles you in ideologies bent on destroying the Christian church!
Yes, thank you for that clarification. I guess my concern is that we should take care lest in our zeal we also condemn the truthful part of those problematic half-truths!
Righteousness and justice have a name - Jesus. Anything short of this and man made will not do it. Also, we repent of our own sins and they are nailed to the cross.
Jesus said in Luke 9:50, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.” God used the Persian King Cyrus to restore Jerusalem and rebuild the temple (2 Chron 36:23). Broadly speaking, passages like these remind me that not everyone I affirm, like, associate with, or even “support their stand for truth” (as mentioned in this article) must be a religious carbon-copy of me.
Would that earlier deep blue no holds barred comedians (Richard Pryor, Sam Kinison, Andrew Dice Clay) had faced the hostility of the trans crowd. Let a man be known by the enemies he makes as the saying goes.
That a comic like Chapelle (a very gifted and successful one) along with novelist J.K. Rowling are now both on the enemies list of the Trans Commissar Overlords is in itself quite laughable. He noted that to most cis-gender biological females, (henceforth and herein to be referred to as "real women") the trans women are a brutal mockery of genuine feminity. I'm not clear how a black male can speak accurately of the monolithic perception of "real women" but I do believe Dave is right. To real women the trans women seem to be a crude mockery and the real women view the trans type the same way real blacks view fakes in black face makeup (Ralph Northam, etc): cruel and insulting.
Thank you for the insight and warning you’ve expressed here. Those of us who love Jesus mustn’t allow public opinion to deter us from honoring and applying the Father’s good ways.
This is excellent and as usual Trueman uses his critical thinking skills - all stemming from his base, the Word of God. He has become a sort of modern day prophet for many of us.
It's interesting to me how much of wokeness is such a uniquely post-Christian phenomena. Pre-Christian cultures have no compunction about exercising power and abusing it - might makes right! But after centuries of Christian influence in the West there is now a deep-seated recognition that the weak, the oppressed, and the marginalized should receive special care and attention and that the proud and mighty ought to be brought low. But without the saving grace of God and the transformation he works within us, the man-based solutions being offered up only exacerbate and perpetuate the sinful abuse of power.
That's why I think it's critical that we recognize the heart behind much of cancel culture - a longing and thirst for righteousness and justice - but direct the woke to where true hope is found, lifting up Christ as the example of truth and grace to which we should all aspire.
I have to agree. I would add that one reason why there is a thirst for righteousness and justice is that the church has often failed to promote those things. Whether or not it's viewed as "woke," we as Christians can acknowledge the very real injustices and wrongdoing in our world; and we can personally ask forgiveness for any wrongs we have done. We can also demonstrate grace, forgiveness, and redemption-which the world does not offer.
"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account."
Is the "regular recitation of the liturgy of evangelical self-loathing on everything from race to sexuality" a poor strategy for dealing with cancel culture? Certainly from the world's perspective. How much more satisfying if all our leaders could stand up, brash and brave, like these secular comedians, and tell it like it is! Of course we need the prophetic voice to speak truth to power and proclaim God's law, but if we can't be open about our own faults and failures and say with honesty "there but for the grace of God go I" then we can quickly succumb to the self-righteousness of the Pharisees.
Agreed. Jesus told his followers to deal with the planks in their own eyes before trying to help others with the specks in their eyes. I would also like to point out that confession and repentance are very different from "self loathing." Self loathing brings pain and death and keeps a person focused on self; repentance brings joy and puts the focus on GOD and his grace.
As repentant sinners we come to Christ recognizing our utter spiritual poverty. We morn over our many sins. We meekly come to God recognizing our great need. We hunger and thirst fo righteousness. Seeing our own sin we are merciful to others leading them to Jesus Christ our savior. This is a good attitude and really the only attitude we should have in approaching God as new Christians and in our lifelong relationship with God.
This is remarkable different compared to the woke crowd who demands white people confess their white privilege which is a tool used to gain power and control society like Dr Trueman articulately presents. This self loathing doesn’t bring you to Christ but enslaves you in half-truths that entangles you in ideologies bent on destroying the Christian church!
Yes, thank you for that clarification. I guess my concern is that we should take care lest in our zeal we also condemn the truthful part of those problematic half-truths!
Righteousness and justice have a name - Jesus. Anything short of this and man made will not do it. Also, we repent of our own sins and they are nailed to the cross.
Agreed. Thanks for the added clarification.
Jesus said in Luke 9:50, “Do not stop him, for the one who is not against you is for you.” God used the Persian King Cyrus to restore Jerusalem and rebuild the temple (2 Chron 36:23). Broadly speaking, passages like these remind me that not everyone I affirm, like, associate with, or even “support their stand for truth” (as mentioned in this article) must be a religious carbon-copy of me.